[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Thread summary: OP claims squats are overrated for bodybuilding. Most posters tell him, non-sense, just train higher rep BB style squats. OP decides to do 5 sets of 5 squats anyway, dismissing not only any advice given, but his own sentiment at the start of the thread.
lol[/quote]
LOL. You got to understand my old training routine(for powerlifting) had me essentially just doing low bar back squats for a training cycle of 2x10 down to 2x1, and most my time was spent in the 1,2,3,5 rep range using that form.Whenever i was using 8-10 reps at the beginning of the periodization cycle, the weight was such a joke it wasn’t even doing much, especially with that form and in only 2 sets.
I think it’s the Front Squats + Narrow Back Squats + doing Leg Press for high reps following the 3x5 of each. 3x5 for 2 quad dominant movements is 30 reps in the 80%+ range;it’s actually quite a bit of volume!
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I don’t have to understand anything. You started a thread called “Squats: Overrated for Bodybuilding” just to make sure a bunch of people visit your thread. More people visiting = higher probability for validation for what you came up with. Yet now you are arguing that squatting IS good for bodybuilding if you rack up enough volume in the 80% range?
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
OP it sounds like you need to get some Oly shoes and squat like an olympic weightlifter.
x2, and I didn’t even read the fucking thread, or the OP.
yeah what’s up[/quote]
Agreed.
OP can you post a video of you squatting for us to see your form?
Also - the hack squat machine seems to target quads more than the leg press for many people. Granted they also destroy more knees! haha
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
I’d be interested to see a vid of 500lb squatters with zero muscle. [/quote]
This is one of the strength coaches from the PL gym I used to train at. He had a 611 squat in his most recent meet and doesn’t exactly have big legs. Idk if this is what you’re looking for, but you can definitely hit 500-600lb squat without much size to your legs. [/quote]
[quote]Ethan7X wrote:
I’d love to see some of these internet keyboard warriors outlift me, because I know 95% of them don’t, and the ones that do have been lifting longer than 1 year and 8 months. Just saying.
Since we’re talking about stupidity, let’s see a 3.7+ GPA while you’re at it. In a real college with real classes that are actually hard like Medical Chemistry,Microbiology,etc.
Come on , you have such big mouths, let’s see some 300+ bench and 400+ squat videos or 3.7+ GPA transcripts?[/quote]
With grade inflation 3.7’s pretty much average now. Plus 3.7 electrical engineering =/= 3.7 sociology.
Ethan is such a troll that he was laughed off another forum because of his crazy gains and huge lifts after only a year of training. Its a shame that crazy cycle you took didn’t kill you.
[quote]luvtolift wrote:
Ethan is such a troll that he was laughed off another forum because of his crazy gains and huge lifts after only a year of training. Its a shame that crazy cycle you took didn’t kill you. [/quote]
I don’t see how it was “huge gains”, I only had a 385squat/245bench/455deadlift in the first year and my bodyweight went from 127-210ish simply because I was so small and ate like a madman. Those aren’t ridiculous numbers after a year and I certainly was never on a cycle. In fact those numbers to this day (1 year 7ish months)haven’t changed anymore than 20pounds except then bench is 3 plate because I specialized on it so much…so yeah whatever, I guess I’m not natural though… - _ - trollll
At least you know your a troll and this is my last reply. You had a thread about how your cycle went bad and you almost died. Your a natural dumbass with a short memory.
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!!
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
Just do what works for you, if you think lighter weight squats for higher reps is your thing, your probably right. I’m still a beginner, I’m 6’2" w/ long legs, and I have been squatting deep for a few months now and my legs have gotten a lot bigger, but I can already tell that the deep squats (below parallel) make my ass grow, (to the point that I had to get new jeans) and that the final 1/3 of my last few sets of heavy leg press make my quads burn like a mother fucker and thats whats making THEM grow.
I’m still a beginner, but this is somethin I’m sure about. I’m not saying heavy squats won’t make my legs bigger, but along the way I know my ass will get ginormous and I want to be proportional.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
please tell me that’s not really what Ethan looks like and is just some random tool…
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
please tell me that’s not really what Ethan looks like and is just some random tool…[/quote]
No that’s him. Just google his name over at BB.com. You’ll see he’s just a troll, who lies about how long he’s lifted/ his accomplishments in those time frames yada yada yada.
Hopefully someone like Roybot the Troll-killer can go through Ethan’s post history and show all the inconsistencies. I’m too lazy too. So I try to just throw up this picture every now and again to give everyone and idea of who they are speaking too.
you are comparing power lifting to bodybuilding. There are very thin people who can squat 405 for a max.
How is 405x20 not a valid argument for the effectiveness of squats? If you replaced squats with leg extensions and duplicated your exact program the last year intermingled with 1 rep maxes for a year, I doubt your quads would grow that much AND you would have knee problems.
It’s a compound exercise. Yes, you can replace squats. The problem is unless your doing deadlifting or some other form of squatting you need to replace it with at least 3 different exercises.
Leg Press is basically a squat minus the core and upperbody isometric work.
Bodybuilders 99% of the time tell you their most recent routine or what they think is right after a life time of different routines.
This is so important it doesn’t need a number
How do you use a routine with 5 sets of squats after a pre-exhaust to prove that squats are overrated? There are much easier exercises to do then squats for 5 sets at the end of your workout.[/quote]
Nicely done here, Airtruth
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Thread summary: OP claims squats are overrated for bodybuilding. Most posters tell him, non-sense, just train higher rep BB style squats. OP decides to do 5 sets of 5 squats anyway, dismissing not only any advice given, but his own sentiment at the start of the thread.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
please tell me that’s not really what Ethan looks like and is just some random tool…[/quote]
No that’s him. Just google his name over at BB.com. You’ll see he’s just a troll, who lies about how long he’s lifted/ his accomplishments in those time frames yada yada yada.
Hopefully someone like Roybot the Troll-killer can go through Ethan’s post history and show all the inconsistencies. I’m too lazy too. So I try to just throw up this picture every now and again to give everyone and idea of who they are speaking too. [/quote]
You’re doing just fine without me, Spidey. He outstayed his welcome on the powerlifting forum and has spent the last week or so sucking up to KingBeef and PX , creating a fictional bodybuilding rep for himself and dissing Waterbury to show how ‘reformed’ he is.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just so everyone remembers that ya’ll are talking to this man, the legend… who in lifting in only 1 year and a half now, has done 5x5, Nubret’s routine, Ed Coan, bulked and cut a few times, switched to BB’ing and PL’ing and back again, all while dishing out advice. Thank you so much for all your help. Now please… PLEASE… give us the TRUE information we desire… and tell us what inspired you to get this uber-original tribal tat!!![/quote]
please tell me that’s not really what Ethan looks like and is just some random tool…[/quote]
No that’s him. Just google his name over at BB.com. You’ll see he’s just a troll, who lies about how long he’s lifted/ his accomplishments in those time frames yada yada yada.
Hopefully someone like Roybot the Troll-killer can go through Ethan’s post history and show all the inconsistencies. I’m too lazy too. So I try to just throw up this picture every now and again to give everyone and idea of who they are speaking too. [/quote]
ah for fuck sake. I didn’t realise the history of this guy, I’ve been blissfully ignorant til now.
Why does anyone post in his threads then? I’m not going to again.
