Single Digit Body Fat

[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Who cares?

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Why do you want more pics of me? Are you gay? I don’t want to see pics of you. Why are you asking me for my pics? I only asked for pics from Sxio since he has seen mine after he tried to call me out, I wanted to see his. I don’t care to see anybodys pics. What are you going to do with them anyway… compare them to someone 7 inches taller than you or use them for unauthorized reasons?

No thanks. Don’t post any pics. I don’t want to see any of yours, your name isn’t Sxio.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
Who cares?

Why do you want more pics of me? Are you gay? I don’t want to see pics of you. Why are you asking me for my pics? I only asked for pics from Sxio since he has seen mine after he tried to call me out, I wanted to see his. I don’t care to see anybodys pics. What are you going to do with them anyway… compare them to someone 7 inches taller than you or use them for unauthorized reasons?

No thanks. Don’t post any pics. I don’t want to see any of yours, your name isn’t Sxio.

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Wow, you’re pretty thick, eh? And I’m not talking about your body, I’m talking about your head.

I already said that it wouldn’t matter if you’re bigger or better conditioned or anything else, it still doesn’t prove anything, and doesn’t make you right.

That was my whole point (which went far over your 6’ head). I don’t care about seeing other people’s pics. YOU are the one calling out Sxio, AND OTHERS IN OTHER POSTS (in case you forgot, I made it in all capital letters).

YOU keep calling MULTIPLE people out about their pics (as if it means much), but YOU have only posted your arm.

I’m calling YOU out because you’re talking like a tough-guy and you like to go way off the cuff with your posts acting like you’ve never had a mother who said nice things to you (in other words, you’re obviously looking for attention and you seem to feel the need to brag about yourself over and over and over again).

Again, you’re back to talking about male genitalia. You sound very homo-phobic, and you know what they say, 95% of all homophobes are gay (nttawwt).

Hey, I happened to be born straight. There’s nothing I can do about that. I won’t judge you, nor will I expect you to come out of the closet before you’re truly ready, but please stop asking me to post pics of my penis. You would have to pay me for that.

Your posts are entertaining though, I’ll give you that much.

Please let me know if you need me to type a little slower so you can understand it.

[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
Who cares?

Why do you want more pics of me? Are you gay? I don’t want to see pics of you. Why are you asking me for my pics? I only asked for pics from Sxio since he has seen mine after he tried to call me out, I wanted to see his. I don’t care to see anybodys pics. What are you going to do with them anyway… compare them to someone 7 inches taller than you or use them for unauthorized reasons?

No thanks. Don’t post any pics. I don’t want to see any of yours, your name isn’t Sxio.

Wow, you’re pretty thick, eh? And I’m not talking about your body, I’m talking about your head.

I already said that it wouldn’t matter if you’re bigger or better conditioned or anything else, it still doesn’t prove anything, and doesn’t make you right.

That was my whole point (which went far over your 6’ head). I don’t care about seeing other people’s pics. YOU are the one calling out Sxio, AND OTHERS IN OTHER POSTS (in case you forgot, I made it in all capital letters).

YOU keep calling MULTIPLE people out about their pics (as if it means much), but YOU have only posted your arm.

I’m calling YOU out because you’re talking like a tough-guy and you like to go way off the cuff with your posts acting like you’ve never had a mother who said nice things to you (in other words, you’re obviously looking for attention and you seem to feel the need to brag about yourself over and over and over again).

Again, you’re back to talking about male genitalia. You sound very homo-phobic, and you know what they say, 95% of all homophobes are gay (nttawwt).

Hey, I happened to be born straight. There’s nothing I can do about that. I won’t judge you, nor will I expect you to come out of the closet before you’re truly ready, but please stop asking me to post pics of my penis. You would have to pay me for that.

Your posts are entertaining though, I’ll give you that much.

Please let me know if you need me to type a little slower so you can understand it.[/quote]

I got to be honest with you. I’m sitting here palying my guitar and clicking around on the net. I click on T-Nation everyonce in a while to see if Sxio posted anything and every hour there’s a new douchebag.

Now I got some dude wanting to see my pics (let me say I’m almost afraid to show you) that might be gay. I’m exausted, please argue with someone else. I don’t have time for this bullshit.

Good luck on your diet or whatever it is you’re trying to do there pudge. Please just ignore me. Please.

I just want to play some jams. Watch the games. Then snuggle up to my lovely wife when I’m done.

Bug off!

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:

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Avoiding my points and name calling, I see.

Here is my rant for the month…How has this post gone from someone asking how to get into single digit b/f % to this penis waving, picture posting, member bashing waste of time.

One thing that really pisses me off about this site…well actually a few things.

I wish they were more strict around here. Meaning, no name calling, bad mouthing or trash talking…you either stay on topic or the thread gets locked and repeat offenders get warned and then eventually banned.

I have read many threads about being defined as a ‘T-Man’…a true T-Man is more than a big arm, a big bench or single digit b/f%…I think a true T-Man is also respectful and humble. So much is focused on building the outer self we sometimes forget that the inner self needs a little attention too.

This is such a great site and I just hate seeing it go down hill like this…I find it very frustrating…

Just needed to get rid of that!!!

[quote]scotty144 wrote:

Just needed to get rid of that!!![/quote]

Are you done cleaning the sand out of your clit? What the fuck fun would it be if we couldn’t have some arguments, some static. We log on because we like this kind of entertainment or discussion.

Don’t log on or read threads if you don’t like the value of liberty in them. I like being able to say “Fuck You”, its the American way. This site is so great because we know most of this fuckin’ shit already. Eat, lift, fuck, eat, lift, fuck, eat, lift, eat, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, lift, sleep. Repeat.

If this is no fun for you, get the fuck outta the kitchen. This heat is too much for you Mr. Fireman. I take alot of heat and I can handle it, change your tampon and come on in for the big win.

This is America Jack, if you don’t like it… get the fuck out.

1st amendment, gotta love it. If you wanna be Mr. Alter boy, nobody’s stopping you. I’ll be in the gym, then I’ll be fucking my wife. Any questions?

Y’know, in reading, I didn’t see the guy complaining about the language used, just the attitude.

Oh fuck it, never mind…

[quote]scotty144 wrote:
Here is my rant for the month…How has this post gone from someone asking how to get into single digit b/f % to this penis waving, picture posting, member bashing waste of time.

One thing that really pisses me off about this site…well actually a few things.

I wish they were more strict around here. Meaning, no name calling, bad mouthing or trash talking…you either stay on topic or the thread gets locked and repeat offenders get warned and then eventually banned.

I have read many threads about being defined as a ‘T-Man’…a true T-Man is more than a big arm, a big bench or single digit b/f%…I think a true T-Man is also respectful and humble. So much is focused on building the outer self we sometimes forget that the inner self needs a little attention too.

This is such a great site and I just hate seeing it go down hill like this…I find it very frustrating…

Just needed to get rid of that!!![/quote]

And where would most threads go?

Q.) How much creatine should I use?
A.) …(end of thread.)

Q.)How do I get to single digit bf?
A.)proper diet…(end of thread.)

Q.)Right now I’m 12-14%bf at 163. I’m looking to get to 180 in single digit bf. Should I cut first or bulk and then lean out?
A.)You’re a moron…(start of a great thread!)

I could care less if you’re pissed. The only thing good about this whole thread was turning it into this trainwreck.

If you choose not to participate in the forums that is fine. The information is still available to you.

[quote]sasquatch wrote:
scotty144 wrote:
Here is my rant for the month…How has this post gone from someone asking how to get into single digit b/f % to this penis waving, picture posting, member bashing waste of time.

One thing that really pisses me off about this site…well actually a few things.

I wish they were more strict around here. Meaning, no name calling, bad mouthing or trash talking…you either stay on topic or the thread gets locked and repeat offenders get warned and then eventually banned.

I have read many threads about being defined as a ‘T-Man’…a true T-Man is more than a big arm, a big bench or single digit b/f%…I think a true T-Man is also respectful and humble. So much is focused on building the outer self we sometimes forget that the inner self needs a little attention too.

This is such a great site and I just hate seeing it go down hill like this…I find it very frustrating…

Just needed to get rid of that!!!

And where would most threads go?

Q.) How much creatine should I use?
A.) …(end of thread.)

Q.)How do I get to single digit bf?
A.)proper diet…(end of thread.)

Q.)Right now I’m 12-14%bf at 163. I’m looking to get to 180 in single digit bf. Should I cut first or bulk and then lean out?
A.)You’re a moron…(start of a great thread!)

I could care less if you’re pissed. The only thing good about this whole thread was turning it into this trainwreck.

If you choose not to participate in the forums that is fine. The information is still available to you.[/quote]

The thing is, every thread that has been started and ended with a very simple answer to a simple question…gets the LEAST views. Someone asks about protein powder, gets answered, and maybe 20 people read the post. The Original Poster never even logs back in to say, “thank you.” The people bitching that they hate threads that ever go off topic…don’t seem to realize they read 5 fucking pages of a thread just to respond how much they hate it. If they hated it that badly, why the fuck did they read it?

Controversy breeds celebrity.

That is why Destiny’s Child made it as a number 1 pop group when they would have possibly slid beneath the radar had members not been kicked out and replaced.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Go heavy fool,

The point that you don’t get is there are different training methods for different goals. Sure, it’s awesome what you do, if your workouts are what you say they are. However, I can guarantee you that’s NOT the best way to build maximal strength.

So that powerlifter couldn’t give a shit if he can rest-pause for an hour, he only cares about how much he can do for a single.

Do you think Asafa Powell cares about how many times he can sprint 100m, one time after the other, with 5 breaths in between? No, he cares about how fast he can do it once.

I’m not trying to knock you, because as I said, if you walk the walk as well as you talk the talk, you certainly are doing some great things and making some great gains in the weightroom and more people would be better served by having your attitude. I’m just saying that there IS different methods for different goals. If somebody else isn’t hating on what you do for your goals, why go out of the way to knock them for the way they train, especially if they are better at what they do than you are!

Oh, I hear ya. I also agree with most of what you said. I myself like to use most of the powerlifters movements to build muscle… ie Ronnie Coleman. I’m not knocking anybody. The powerlifter is stronger than me. The marathoner has better endurance than me. I sit in the middle somewhere. I’m like the middle weight boxer, I like the combination of the power and speed. this is what makes the elite athlete elite… a la Larry Johnson, Jim Browm, Mike Tyson, even Arnold and Ronnie Coleman were built but strong as a side effect for trying to gain mass.

I prefer to use the hardest way possible to train for better results. Therefore, I do heavy lifts and singles myself… but I rest pause them because I am not in it for strength. I’m in it for periodization or hypertrophy. I agree that my methods are not good for powerlifters building maximal strength.

My methods are strictly for hypertrophy gains. If I wanted strength without size, I would follow a powerlifters resume. I do get the added strength benefit from my training as a side effect but the goal is hypertrophy. This is best acomplished thru periodization and using the most intense routines for certain time frames. The “more work in less time” concept is my whole basis which is just a simple Vince Gironda concept. This includes, pushing thru the pain and past the pain barrier, sucking it up and performing more reps even though winded. These methods would include everything from supersets, dropsets, stripper sets, giant sets, staggerd sets, rest-pause, increased frequency and maximal volume in shorter periods.

The 1-10 method or just a triple drop set with no rest between exercises would be a typical workout for me. I do a lot of heavy lifting for singles but I rest-pause them and will get 6-10 reps with my 3RM weight… again all this follows a Vince Gironda concept “more work in less time”, I’m not inventing anything here. All I’m doing is going with what comes natural… and that is the more work I do and the higher my intensity level is, the greater my results are. Its that simple, the harder I push the easier I gain.[/quote]

Nothing to say other than that I think we pretty much agree about most things now.

Wow, to think you guys actually make fun of other forums for not giving good advice. You guys are incapable of producing one thread without it turning into a hissy fit.

[quote]oboffill wrote:
Wow, to think you guys actually make fun of other forums for not giving good advice. You guys are incapable of producing one thread without it turning into a hissy fit. [/quote]

Go back and read the original post. Tell me where this thread was going. Single digit bf is rarified air. Yet, this poster asked about tests, cardio, diet, workouts–anything and everything that may help him get there. In other words, he didn’t have a clue. Not a clue. Should someone sit down and map out an entire lifestyle for a guy who doesn’t care enough to spend his own time learning some of the freakin basics?

Beginners deserve a break. Even though 90% of their questions could be answered with the search key and some effort. This really can’t even be considered a question. There are 15 articles of information needed to help answer those questions.

And then you get fools.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Y’know, in reading, I didn’t see the guy complaining about the language used, just the attitude.

Oh fuck it, never mind…[/quote]

Sxio said it best-

Better not to argue…he’ll beat you with his experience.

[quote]sasquatch wrote:
oboffill wrote:
Wow, to think you guys actually make fun of other forums for not giving good advice. You guys are incapable of producing one thread without it turning into a hissy fit.

Go back and read the original post. Tell me where this thread was going. Single digit bf is rarified air. Yet, this poster asked about tests, cardio, diet, workouts–anything and everything that may help him get there. In other words, he didn’t have a clue. Not a clue. Should someone sit down and map out an entire lifestyle for a guy who doesn’t care enough to spend his own time learning some of the freakin basics?

Beginners deserve a break. Even though 90% of their questions could be answered with the search key and some effort. This really can’t even be considered a question. There are 15 articles of information needed to help answer those questions.

And then you get fools.[/quote]

Maybe that is what they truly expect, for people to sit down and retype pages of info for them even though this same shit has been discussed to death throughout several threads. If one more person asks about a Tanita scale this week as if NO ONE has ever thought of asking that question, they deserve every ounce of ridicule thrown their way.

The original poster basically asked, “could someone tell me everything about what I need to know about bodybuilding…thanks.” So, the response was supposed to be a true attempt to answer that fucking question? Maybe we could enroll them in some college classes while we are at it…at our own expense of course.

Some people need to be told to do their own fucking research. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If anyone expects no sarcasm or humor to be used in the process, you are on the wrong forum.

I’m all about a good debate and learning…that’s why I am here. I just get frustrated when I start to see things get out of hand like this. I am not trying to take way anyones constitutional rights.

I don’t imagine you people would treat each other this way in real life? Does this attitude extend to every aspect of your life. Everytime your spouse, your boss, your mother, your friend disagrees with you would you say…Go F@#k yourself, you’re an idiot and don’t know anything about blah blah blah?

I’m sure not, otherwise you would be unemployed, unloved and probably half encased in concrete sitting at the bottom of a large body of water.

I am who I am, and I don’t hide behind a clever screen name or avatar. I will conduct myself the same way on the internet as I would in person. Would you guys want your mother/father, significant other, child, friend, mentor to read some of the stuff that you spout off in here?

That is my issue, if the attitude around here is any reflection of the state of this world…I am scared.

[quote]scotty144 wrote:
I’m all about a good debate and learning…that’s why I am here. I just get frustrated when I start to see things get out of hand like this. I am not trying to take way anyones constitutional rights.

I don’t imagine you people would treat each other this way in real life? Does this attitude extend to every aspect of your life. Everytime your spouse, your boss, your mother, your friend disagrees with you would you say…Go F@#k yourself, you’re an idiot and don’t know anything about blah blah blah?

I’m sure not, otherwise you would be unemployed, unloved and probably half encased in concrete sitting at the bottom of a large body of water.

I am who I am, and I don’t hide behind a clever screen name or avatar. I will conduct myself the same way on the internet as I would in person. Would you guys want your mother/father, significant other, child, friend, mentor to read some of the stuff that you spout off in here?

That is my issue, if the attitude around here is any reflection of the state of this world…I am scared.[/quote]

Who told you to go fuck yourself? If you claim to have never had an argument with family members you are full of shit. You claim to have never raised your voice to friends in debate whether that be on the basketball court or elsewhere, you are full of shit. Yet, somehow, when an argument happens on the internet, you want nothing but nice replies and wonderful conversations.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
scotty144 wrote:
I’m all about a good debate and learning…that’s why I am here. I just get frustrated when I start to see things get out of hand like this. I am not trying to take way anyones constitutional rights.

I don’t imagine you people would treat each other this way in real life? Does this attitude extend to every aspect of your life. Everytime your spouse, your boss, your mother, your friend disagrees with you would you say…Go F@#k yourself, you’re an idiot and don’t know anything about blah blah blah?

I’m sure not, otherwise you would be unemployed, unloved and probably half encased in concrete sitting at the bottom of a large body of water.

I am who I am, and I don’t hide behind a clever screen name or avatar. I will conduct myself the same way on the internet as I would in person. Would you guys want your mother/father, significant other, child, friend, mentor to read some of the stuff that you spout off in here?

That is my issue, if the attitude around here is any reflection of the state of this world…I am scared.

Who told you to go fuck yourself? If you claim to have never had an argument with family members you are full of shit. You claim to have never raised your voice to friends in debate whether that be on the basketball court or elsewhere, you are full of shit. Yet, somehow, when an argument happens on the internet, you want nothing but nice replies and wonderful conversations. [/quote]

Of course I have.

That’s not the point Proffessor. I have never met you…we have traded a few PM’s and I respect you as a valued member on this forum. That is not to say I agree with everything you say and would not lower myself to ‘fuck you’s’ and personal attacks because I don’t agree with you.

[quote]Big Daddy D wrote:
Pro X quick question .Who are you? im new here first time posting.I notice you have over 13,000 postings .Did i miss read that your 145 at 6 feet.or am i missing some thing.[/quote]

He is the defender of on-line body building…muhaaa

BTW, I don’t play that sissy sport you call basketball (Canadain invention) …up here we play a real man’s sport…Hockey :wink:

[quote]scotty144 wrote:

Of course I have.[/quote]

Well then, why do you expect typed debates to go much differently when voice inflection can’t be used as a resource?

Well, good for you. My responses usually contain more than “fuck yous” as well, however, if my point can be made in the use of one simple “dumbass” as opposed to typing out 2 pages of text, I will use it as such.

Also, considering you usually do NOT even participate in most discussions, you have no clue how you would respond if all focus was on you in a very heated debate. Standing on the sidelines and critiquing the performance of all of the players is something left to coaches of sports teams…not discussion forums.