Silver and Steel

We’ll see… still a couple months to go.

That sucks! I’m sorry man.

Thanks!

Obviously. She’s basically been in charge of the whole thing.

Yeah, it’s a cool process. They’re a couple weeks ahead of schedule; hopefully that stays the case!
@alex_uk @Frank_C you’re both right about the deficit. I think getting through this without getting fatter, and then losing fat on a different plan is what I should do.

I’m eyeballing Creeping Death 2 next… takers??

Never!

Well, maybe…

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I kinda missed this. The pandemic economic consequences have been severe… I had to ask my Internet friends for lodging

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That’s about what I want my forever home to look like. I’m truly happy for you dude - you’re blessed. Hard work is magic.

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Thank you sir. I really appreciate it. I have been a fortunate man throughout.

Edit: I just caught myself up on your own situation. I hope you get the best news you can.

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Ok, so here’s my thoughts on the committed ADD challenge; I’m throwing this out there in case anyone has thoughts or wants to do something similar. I’ve been jumping on programs at the same time as other members the last couple times I’ve actually done a program, and I like it!

I’m finishing up Dark Horse right now. I likely won’t do the deload/ testing weeks, because I don’t care and didn’t have a real baseline anyway. That takes me to mid-September; I don’t know exactly when, because I’m not a mathematician! I think the second week-ish?

Anyway, I am going to teach ROTC as a reservist (that’s right - when we wonder why the next generation and the world is going wrong, you now have a single point of failure to examine). So my goals are:

  • Look jacked
  • Force them to keep up with me
    My understanding of what they’re doing these days means it’s not long crazy ruck marches or anything like we used to do. Their run is still the two-mile, but they have more combine-type tests as their focus now.

So, I’m thinking my measurables are:

  1. Big upper body
  2. Decent body fat
  3. Good lungs inside the 15-minute timeframe
  4. Acceptable running (no worse than a 7.5 minute mile, which is extremely slow but fine for my age)

So my plan:

  1. Finish up Dark Horse and never speak of it again
  2. Do a hypertrophy program - anyone want to jump on a Meadows plan?? I also think Thibs’ conjugate bodybuilding is cool. I might just rotate 6-week programs here to be consistent with my attention span.
  3. Hard cardio after heavy days (so like Crossfit baseline workouts, sled, etc.); Running on off/ light days. So legs would get 10 minutes of sled pushes and arm day would get a 1.5 mile run, as an example. I don’t get to do abs/ calves/ etc. unless I’ve done the cardio.
  4. I’m baselining my calories now, but I’m currently about 205. As I finish Dark Horse, I’m going to get myself to the low 190s and hold that for a couple weeks. I’m then going to try to actually structure a reverse diet and see how high I can go, calorically, and maintain visible abs without squinting.

Thoughts??

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If you want conjugate, big upper body, and good physical shape, you ever consider one of the Westside Barbell for Skinny Bastards?

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Thanks for the reply! I’ve honestly never read through it, even though I’ve seen it on here a few times. It’s Defranco, yes?

Edit: Also, to clarify, doing conjugate as a method is not a requirement for me… it was just one of Thibaudeau’s programs I found interesting. I’m not even completely sure how much I like dynamic work. It’s kind of fun to do, but I don’t know that I don’t get the majority of the benefit just by doing crisp reps and paying attention on my warm-up sets. I’m not a particularly strong lifter, so there may not be enough of a delta either way for me to draw any meaningful conclusion.

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Yup. He’s got 3 versions. The original only has 1 lower body day, to make room for more athletic training, while version 3 has a more traditional ME/DE approach for lower body.

I’m with you on DE work, especially for my upper body. WS4SB is a bit more reliant on jumps vs super speedy squats, which I think is the smarter move for non-powerlifters. And the upper body work doesn’t use DE at all, but Repetition Effort instead.

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Perfect. That sounds pretty solid. I’ll start checking those out.

Thank you, sir!

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Well, more of this stuff

Conditioning:

  • 10 minutes treadmill: 1.08 miles… that’s progression, baby

Main and Volume:

  • 3 Box Jumps
  • Front Squat
    45/5
    135/5
    185/3
    225/2
    275/1
    295/3
    235/8 x 3
    Nothing amazing, but I was much smarter about getting the bar into my throat and my elbows up
  • 6 Ab Wheels
  • 5 Airdyne Calories

Dynamic

  • Deadlift
    235 + chains/2 x 10 EMOM

Assistance

  1. GHR Reverse Hyper
    BW/15 + 10 + 6
    I liked how this felt
  2. Leg Extension
    60/10 + 30/15 + 5
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That first giant set looks tiring. Does your performance (read: amount of weight lifted) nearly approximate your straight set or superset weights?

I’ve never done a reverse hyper, but they sure look restorative for the lower back.

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As I’ve learned to pace myself and gotten conditioned to it, I think my performance is normal to straight sets. There’s a ton of time between efforts, too. That’s on the ones working up. The volume sets are a little faster and closer to failure; the giant set format definitely impacts those.

I really like the suffering aspect of this program, but I don’t love having to map out a series of stations I will be needing to hold for 45 minutes.

I don’t know how I’d progress the reverse hyper thing (maybe a band?), but it felt good yesterday. I don’t think I’d do it if my back was flaring up

Bleh

Conditioning

  • 10 minutes rower: 2325m

Main

  • Pull-ups
    BW/5 x 2
    25/3
    45/2 x 2
  • Push Press
    45/5
    95/5
    135/3
    185/1
    205/ nope x 2
    Pretty disappointed here. I definitely have it in me and I didn’t do it. I think I’m letting myself set up with my feet too narrow, and then I am wobbly when I try to push my head through
  • 10 Ab May Crunches
  • 30 Battle Ropes

Volume

  • 8 BW Pull-ups x 3
  • Push Press 145/5 x 3
  • 10 Ab May Crunches

Dynamic

  • Bench Press
    145 + chains/ 2 EMOM x 10
  • DB Hammer Curls for 6 sets

Assistance

  • DB Arnold Press
    35/10 x 3
  • DB Skullcrusher
    25/8 x 3
  • BW Push-ups
    25
    20
    15
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I really like the giant set format, especially for assistance and supplemental work, but I’ve come to accept that no matter what Brian says, it’s always going to be near impossible to use in a CoVid public gym.

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Absolutely. It adds a stressor. Even on things that maybe use just a barbell and a rack, it’s still not making everyone real happy when racks get scarce and you’ve been in one forever. Oh well; first-world problems and all

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Woke up this morning and my back was just not having it. I didn’t want to do deadlifts, so I just did a pull day more in my usual vein. This was either intelligent or a cowardly way to not do dark horse. Either way

  • 10 minutes elliptical
  1. One-arm BB Row
    -/12
    25/8
    50/6
    75/4
    50/8 x 3

  2. Pull-ups
    BW/8 x 3

  3. DB Pullover
    60/8 x 3

  4. Hanging Leg Raise
    BW/8 x 4

  5. Shrug Machine
    140/12 x 3

  6. Machine Back Extension
    140/10
    140/8 x 2

  7. Machine Preacher Curl
    65/10
    80/10 x 3

  8. DB Hammer Curl
    30/8 + 5 partials x 4

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Back to what I’m supposed to do today! Absolute gallons of sweat

Conditioning:

  1. Tabata hill sprints on treadmill for 4 minutes
  2. Then 2 minutes incline walking
  3. Then 4 minutes running

Main and Volume:

  • 3 Broad Jumps
  • Deficit (1-block) Deadlift
    135/5
    225/3
    315/3
    365/3
    285/8 x 3
  • 20-second Plank
  • 30m Farmer’s Carry @ 135# each (I’m calling the implements 45#)
    How the hell do people turn with these?

Dynamic:

  • Squat
    205 + chains/2 EMOM x 10
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Slowly

That’s some good work man.

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Thank you sir. I honestly really like how hard these workouts are.

I did a similar style (a RIP off of his linear programming) briefly, when I was training at home and it definitely pushed me to be a bit more creative and work harder. What I didn’t like was that it took my focus away from the main lifts, especially lower body, and that the sessions took a looooong time. Like 1hour absolute minimum.

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