They’re both good; I think the latter concepts are more efficient for fat loss in less time. The trade off is how you may feel, perhaps more achy, unmotivated to train vs just traditional “bodybuilding” weight training and steady state cardio. I love the concept of keeping the workouts short (45 min and under) in all formats, with focusing on heavier weights (70-90% of 1RM) to maintain strength and some tone.
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When you step outside yourself, the common sense drops in. Like it’s harder for me to just do what I would advise someone else to do.
This is probably the major factor - how big does the trade-off end up being.
Anyway, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I will probably take a progress pic in two weeks when I’m done with this current run, and have at least that as a baseline if I decide to bite the bullet and try something different. Right now I’m pretty comfy, which is good and bad.
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Thanks!
I don’t mean to come in here and give training orders and beat this topic into ground, I’m just enjoying the discussion.
I totally agree about big changes to the structure of your training being a pain in the ass. It’s nice when you can just timing and train without elaborate plans or having to learn a whole new setup. Like Alshruhe’s stuff is awesome, but it’s a lot to take on. The stuff klienhound was doing looked great, only I don’t think I could handle all those big moves.
If you kind of take a step back, all these routines are really doing is making you breath hard and pump blood around. Behind all the supersets and giants sets and Olympic lifts you’re really just trying to challenge your heart and lungs to change the way your body operates for a little while. Breath heavy, sweat and burn fat. Basically you’re just cutting rest times.
If you wanted to get into this “style” with minimal disruption you could do something like Vince Gironda, old school body builder 8 x 8 setup. For 3 or 4 lifts in your routine you do 8 x 8, using a challenging weight for each set, with 30 second rests.
Or a Chad Waterberry thing where instead of squatting 3 sets of 10 with untimed rest periods you squat 10 sets of 3 with timed, limited rests.
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Dude, that’s the whole point! I appreciate the ideas and discourse.
Exactly! There’s probably some middle ground where I just need to get out of my comfort zone, though.
I like the suggestions you listed. I did CT’s superhero complexes in the past and honestly had a ton of success, so you are spot-on with it just being about keeping that heart rate up.
Thanks for all the input. I love all thoughts and advice, even if I’m only man enough to implement about half of it.
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Built for Battle was basically a circuit of five heavy barbell movements. I think the frequency or intensity needs an adjustment for me. By day three I was getting buried by like 80% of my 3RM.
How did you set that up? It looked like it required 5 legit stations with barbells, racks and benches
Here’s where it started. As usual, I botched the program by doing two circuits of three instead of one circuit of five.
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I’ll start reading, since Carolina is determined to lose. Thanks!
I’m pretty sure the article had several versions of the program based on your goals. There were lots of questions on the forum after it was published and I recall doing a tri set and superset was the answer for people who couldn’t set up five lifts.
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Perfect. Thanks again. I dummy know if it’s my route, but worth looking into.
Thanks man!
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Use it for ideas. Look at more programs for ideas. Once you’ve collected enough information, smash them all together and make your own Frankenstein program!
(And then quit after 4-6 sessions because you over estimated yourself 
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Sorry, just talking about my past experiences.
Edit: dang it, now I’m thinking about Built for Battle again.
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Well, this clearly sounds like me too.
I think this is where I mess myself up. If I allow myself to think, the “shiny” gets to me. I am definitely intrigued by had circuits again, though. I don’t know which version, though. Built for battle is intriguing; I just need to figure if I can do it equipment-wise. I think I’ll be moving back to an office-based role, so I won’t have to travel, but I still can’t be a total asshole and take up everything at my gym. I can take a rack and a bar forever, though (there are plenty). So I could do something around that. Maybe I actually will have to use my brain and think! Damn it!
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You can if you get there first! Once everybody sees you have everything taken they will wait. Lol Even if they feel compelled to run on the treadmill for 40 mins.
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Mate why not keep running Gamma Bomb however keep the chest/ back pump day in as opposed to the extra leg work?
I think this is the route I’ll take.
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In this scenario, they actually owe me money as their trainer!
I’m kind of leaning here, but instead of the pump work maybe I would do circuits like some of his NFL workouts on his YouTube channel. What do you think?
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Sounds good mate.
As long as you’re training hard then you cannot fail 
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I pride myself on finding a way
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Back
My gym appears to have gotten rid of both the landmine and the back extension!
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HS High Row
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1pps/8
1.25pps/6
2pps/10
2.10pps/10
2.10pps/7
2pps/10 -
Supinated MAG Pulldown
64/8
108/10 x 3
108/12 -
Dead-stop DB Row
100/8 x 4 -
Nautilus Pullover
80/10 x 4 -
Back Extension Machine
125/6 x 2
155/6 x 2
170/6 x 2 -
Hanging Leg Raise
BW/12 x 3
BW/10 -
Standing Calf Raise
45 seconds between sets
200/8 x 7
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