Should I Do the 300 Movie Workout

[quote]vermilion wrote:
IronWarrior24 wrote:
This is just yet another case of someone wanting “fast gains” without having to put forth the time that it would take to do it normally. The best gains take time, patience, and aren’t found in a fancy hollywood workout.

Ease up - he’s a beginner, he’s got 4 posts. Most folks don’t know better the first time. And training at Gym Jones doesn’t qualify as fancy, they work hard and get results. If it’s good enough for Dan John… [/quote]

Also, I didn’t realize that a person’s level of experience in lifting was determined by the number of posts they have submitted to an internet site.

[quote]kujayhawkfan wrote:
300 workout

I think we’ve all seen it. And I think we all know how it’s performed.

But what I am wanting to know is wether or not I should do it, and will it give me serious gains in mass?

What are your thoughts on this workout?[/quote]

sigh

Alright, thanks guys for clearing up some of this stuff for me.

And for the record… If you don’t have anything nice to say, just keep the pie-hole closed!

I’m not looking for some fancy routine that will make me ripped over-night. I was just asking what were your takes on it, don’t go off on me.

It’s people like you who make beginners discouraged to where they end up quitting.

You don’t know me, so stop hating.

[quote]ACTrain wrote:
All the answers to both your questions can be found in this 15 minute podcast.

Episode 45: The 300 Workout w/ Craig Ballantyne – TheFitCast- Fitness and Nutrition Podcast [/quote]

And thankyou ACTrain, that link was very helpful.

[quote]kujayhawkfan wrote:
Alright, thanks guys for clearing up some of this stuff for me.

And for the record… If you don’t have anything nice to say, just keep the pie-hole closed!

I’m not looking for some fancy routine that will make me ripped over-night. I was just asking what were your takes on it, don’t go off on me.

It’s people like you who make beginners discouraged to where they end up quitting.

You don’t know me, so stop hating.[/quote]

First off you’re right. I don’t know you. But, I’m fairly certain I don’t want to either. Second, I wasn’t “hating”. You asked what our takes on it were, and my take on it is that anyone who would consider doing it is someone who doesn’t have the patience to look into one of the infinite amount of training articles found, You Guessed It!!, right here on T-Nation which contain an actual realistic training program, not one designed to get out of shape actors a six-pack in a minimum amount of time.

One of my friends preaches its benefits and tried to get me do this workout but its not for me. If your seriously into MMA like he is it works great. This guys is in great condition trains 4 to 5 hours a day, gets in rings and cages and beats up other guys. For that, I respect his opinion so I believe this workout has great benefits. But we have different goals. I want huge muscles he wants to beat people up.

Don’t forget the blue screen and the air brush when you leave the gym . Saw the movie and how they made it. It is a workout.

[quote]kujayhawkfan wrote:
Alright, thanks guys for clearing up some of this stuff for me.

And for the record… If you don’t have anything nice to say, just keep the pie-hole closed!

I’m not looking for some fancy routine that will make me ripped over-night. I was just asking what were your takes on it, don’t go off on me.

It’s people like you who make beginners discouraged to where they end up quitting.

You don’t know me, so stop hating.[/quote]

lol

[quote]kujayhawkfan wrote:
Okay, the workout consists of:

25 pullups,
50 deadlifts,
50 pushups,
50 jumps on a 24 inch box,
50 floor wipers,
50 single arm clean and presses using a 36-lb kettlebell,
and 25 more pullups.

–All these were done as one superset–[/quote]

I got a good 300 workout for you:

299 Ab Crunches.
1 Sissy squat.

Here’s another one:

245 Bodyweight squats.
53 Jumping jacks.
1 Pushup.
1 Curl. (No weight added.)

[quote]IronWarrior24 wrote:
This is just yet another case of someone wanting “fast gains” without having to put forth the time that it would take to do it normally. The best gains take time, patience, and aren’t found in a fancy hollywood workout.[/quote]

Excuse me? This workout was designed by Gym Jones. Those guys don’t fuck around and T-Nation’s own Dan John is a member. What have you done that your reputation and knowledge can smoke this establishment and the programs you design make Gym Jones’ incredibly taxing workouts seem like a “fancy hollywood workout?” You must be one hell of a guy, that you can call Dan John’s career “easy, fast gains.”

If you want to talk about “fancy hollywood workouts” then start a “This guy sucks” thread about Brad Pitt doing push-ups and pull-ups with his 160 lb. self (I made up that number, I don’t actually know how much he weighs. Leave me alone.)

[quote]unbending wrote:
kujayhawkfan wrote:
Okay, the workout consists of:

25 pullups,
50 deadlifts,
50 pushups,
50 jumps on a 24 inch box,
50 floor wipers,
50 single arm clean and presses using a 36-lb kettlebell,
and 25 more pullups.

–All these were done as one superset–

I got a good 300 workout for you:

299 Ab Crunches.
1 Sissy squat.

Here’s another one:

245 Bodyweight squats.
53 Jumping jacks.
1 Pushup.
1 Curl. (No weight added.)[/quote]

Lol classic
Will this make me look like Brad Pitt? I don’t really like working out. Can i just take supplements and eat protien and get huge?

The extras in 300 that were the 1 million man Persian army had to do the same workout as the Spartans… but they had to do 1 million reps instead of 300. Each workout took them 1000 hours.

When Brad Pitt was preparing for his role in Se7en… he performed the following workout:

1 crunch
1 cigarette smoked
1 cock push-up (all you need is one)
1 Skittle eaten
1 package of Clenbuterol consumed
1 partial squat on the Smith Machine
1 crunch

The Se7en workout is tough. It takes most people 7 minutes.

[quote]kujayhawkfan wrote:
Okay, the workout consists of:

25 pullups,
50 deadlifts,
50 pushups,
50 jumps on a 24 inch box,
50 floor wipers,
50 single arm clean and presses using a 36-lb kettlebell,
and 25 more pullups.

–All these were done as one superset–[/quote]

This wasn’t the routine, this was just a test they used to measure progress/strength/whatever.

The routine was done like crossfit, i.e. new exercises every day.

[quote]danger-kelly wrote:
The extras in 300 that were the 1 million man Persian army had to do the same workout as the Spartans… but they had to do 1 million reps instead of 300. Each workout took them 1000 hours.

When Brad Pitt was preparing for his role in Se7en… he performed the following workout:

1 crunch
1 cigarette smoked
1 cock push-up (all you need is one)
1 Skittle eaten
1 package of Clenbuterol consumed
1 partial squat on the Smith Machine
1 crunch

The Se7en workout is tough. It takes most people 7 minutes.[/quote]

You dont even want to know about the workout the cast of “Pi” had to do.

the “300 workout” is NOT A ROUTINE. Why do people think this is a legit “routine?” Its more like an “obstacle-course” type workout that you do to just challenge yourself. As the other posters said, find a solid routine that works for you.

[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
IronWarrior24 wrote:
This is just yet another case of someone wanting “fast gains” without having to put forth the time that it would take to do it normally. The best gains take time, patience, and aren’t found in a fancy hollywood workout.

Excuse me? This workout was designed by Gym Jones. Those guys don’t fuck around and T-Nation’s own Dan John is a member. What have you done that your reputation and knowledge can smoke this establishment and the programs you design make Gym Jones’ incredibly taxing workouts seem like a “fancy hollywood workout?” You must be one hell of a guy, that you can call Dan John’s career “easy, fast gains.”

If you want to talk about “fancy hollywood workouts” then start a “This guy sucks” thread about Brad Pitt doing push-ups and pull-ups with his 160 lb. self (I made up that number, I don’t actually know how much he weighs. Leave me alone.)[/quote]

I think I already addressed the “fancy Hollywood workout” part in an earlier post, so maybe you should go back and read it before bringing old shit back into the conversation.

But, now that you mention it, the “workout” that the OP posted, which turned out not to be a workout at all, really isn’t a good program to get steady gains with. It’s merely a test for performance. Also, where in my post did I say anything about Dan John’s career or “easy gains”. Would you please care to show me?

[quote]49ersFan81 wrote:
the “300 workout” is NOT A ROUTINE. Why do people think this is a legit “routine?” Its more like an “obstacle-course” type workout that you do to just challenge yourself. As the other posters said, find a solid routine that works for you.

[/quote]

Thank You

[quote]IronWarrior24 wrote:
vermilion wrote:
IronWarrior24 wrote:
This is just yet another case of someone wanting “fast gains” without having to put forth the time that it would take to do it normally. The best gains take time, patience, and aren’t found in a fancy hollywood workout.

Ease up - he’s a beginner, he’s got 4 posts. Most folks don’t know better the first time. And training at Gym Jones doesn’t qualify as fancy, they work hard and get results. If it’s good enough for Dan John…

Also, I didn’t realize that a person’s level of experience in lifting was determined by the number of posts they have submitted to an internet site.

[/quote]

No, but if you couple that with the fact that he is a 16 year old, 130 pound kid posting in the Beginner’s forum, then…well, you can connect the dots.

Oh, but you didn’t. Shit, well, I’ll give you a hand on this one, ok? Dot #1 is his age/stats, Dot #2 will be his post total and the forum they all occurred in.

Ready, set, go: . --fucking moron-- .

No disrespect to Kevin (founder of TheFitcast), but his podcast that had a section dedicated to discussing the ‘300’ workout was more on the fad. It’s gone already. A major part of that section was his sponsor, a fat loss guru who is getting irritating already. He did it, horribly in time I will add.

There are amateur meat heads that are cranking ‘300’ in 11-15 minutes. Some people focus too much on what one person was reported on finishing the darn thing. 18 minutes?! Engrish isn’t that horrible, but that was one individual’s PR. hahaha The world of the couch made it look like this was some kind of baseline for everyone to beat or reach.

BUT this is an example of the misunderstanding and popular media’s jockriding of this one single workout. Then again, what businessman in their right mind is gonna tell potential customers to go to someone else’s business and search all the way to September 18, 2005 for ALMOST every workout cast and crew went through as well as earlier versions of the ‘300’ workout (which fall under the general category of “Grinders”).

When reading about GymJones WODs called “circuits” they look similar to CF stuff. Whatever. But it’s about the research and the hard work that not many people will think of doing ocne faced with it. Never mind being capable of doing it just yet.

The best example of scaled down workouts, due to conditioning and ability, would have to be “The Captain” aka Vincent. As he adpated better, his training ramped up. He goes from pear shaped to much better. We do not have to go far to understand how this happens…

Let’s turn to the articles and Author Lockerooms to understand, once again, muscle building and the processes taken. This is what I’ve learned so far:

A workout will not just do it.

Eating certain foods, in certain amounts, will not just do it.

Understanding the relationship between energy used in different modalities and intensities, nutrition, and supplementation seems to do most of it.

The original post asked if this would help with mass goals. I interpreted this as “Can I get bigger?” No, not really. Not as it is written, meaning straight through with no stopping. Break it down to resemble something like you’d find here and add a lil more weight then maybe it will…with nutritional support and proper post-exercise rest. These are things that can be learned from the articles and lockeroom readings here at T-Nation.

Let’s also add that much like the Velocity Diet, if you sub something or change a lil detail, then it’s not the ‘300’ workout. Perhaps inspired, but not the same. For example, using DBs instead of KBs. Using lat pulldowns instead of pullups. Doing curls, etc. Get the picture?

I like the recent Blood Article Series with Chad Waterbury. This is talking about complexes and hybrids he may have his athletes doing. Do those instead. At least the maker of that stuff is here to openly answer your qestions about his writings (this is in comparison to the stance of Twight n Co, to which they do not answer questions other than that was in the interviews and 2 articles).

I just feel people have a lot to lose if they trust in one thing without looking at the whole picture. Downside to this whole thing, 8 to 10 weeks of this ‘300’ stuff and then what? Repeat? Yeah, right. Stuck in Tae Bo all over again.

[quote]conner wrote:
IronWarrior24 wrote:
vermilion wrote:
IronWarrior24 wrote:
This is just yet another case of someone wanting “fast gains” without having to put forth the time that it would take to do it normally. The best gains take time, patience, and aren’t found in a fancy hollywood workout.

Ease up - he’s a beginner, he’s got 4 posts. Most folks don’t know better the first time. And training at Gym Jones doesn’t qualify as fancy, they work hard and get results. If it’s good enough for Dan John…

Also, I didn’t realize that a person’s level of experience in lifting was determined by the number of posts they have submitted to an internet site.

No, but if you couple that with the fact that he is a 16 year old, 130 pound kid posting in the Beginner’s forum, then…well, you can connect the dots.

Oh, but you didn’t. Shit, well, I’ll give you a hand on this one, ok? Dot #1 is his age/stats, Dot #2 will be his post total and the forum they all occurred in.

Ready, set, go: . --fucking moron-- .[/quote]

Beginner or not, it may be better to focus on the content of the post rather than to look through a person’s profile to find out interesting little tidbits about them to use in your replies. That’s what I do, but maybe I’m wrong. And I don’t think there’s some magic barrier that prevents more experienced lifters from posting in the beginner’s forum.