Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

Pharma
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The difference between test-p and test-c (aside from the timing) is that test-c will cause more water retention and bloating. It’s your call, you can use either. I would really doubt that any test-prop you find is fake because it’s the cheapest substance to make… At a production cost of $5/bottle or less it would be a real shitty thing for someone to do, lol.

Go with 600mg/week of test… If it’s test prop then do injections everyday and if it’s test-c do injections 2x/week.

Winstrol for 6 weeks @50mg/week (1st 6 weeks of the cycle)

Masteron for the whole 12 weeks @ 400-600mg/week.

Nolvadex @ 10mg everyday for the whole cycle

HCG during the cycle is perfect… Depending on how your blood tests are post cycle, you might want to keep it in for another 4 weeks after.

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[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:
Hello, I just saw my answer, sorry for the mistakes I have trouble with English, so I wanted to know I’m dry cycle, 182cm 84kg to 14% fat I want to get to 10% but I can not use stimulant products for the heart because small problems, I think the use turinabol, what the lightest that you just take to reduce side effects but gain some lean mass dose be? Be little add some masteron also
thank you very much[/quote]

Post a picture and your diet. I wouldn’t use turinabol for a cutting cycle. Masteron is a great option.
[/quote]

Thank you very much,
my diet
Meal 1: 6 egg white and yellow
30 gr flake oats with 10 grams of whey
Omega 3 and CLA

Before training: coffee and taurine training with 10g BCAA and 30g of Vitargo
Post training 40g of whey isolate, 5 grams of leucine, 5g glutamine

Meals 14 hours: 200g chicken or turkey meat horse
300 to 500 grams of green vegetables, 50 100GR cooked lentils or quinoa or rice, 10 grams of rapeseed oil
A natural soy yogurt, an omega 3, CLA 1

18 hours 40gr simple whey

Meals 20 hours: same meal in 14 hours but without carbohydrates

23 hours 40g casein and 5 almonds
J am afraid of falling too carbohydrates for muscle wasting[/quote]

Add MAG-10 30min before your first meal (1.5servings)

Preworkout, drop the vitargo (it’s crap) and replace it with Plazma. 1 serving preworkout and 2-3 servings intraworkout.

Replace your 1800 meal with 1.5servings of MAG-10

Remove the Soy Yogurt.

As for your cycle: go with test-p, masteron and anavar. Don’t forget to use HCG during the cycle and do a proper pct.

303

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:
Hello, I just saw my answer, sorry for the mistakes I have trouble with English, so I wanted to know I’m dry cycle, 182cm 84kg to 14% fat I want to get to 10% but I can not use stimulant products for the heart because small problems, I think the use turinabol, what the lightest that you just take to reduce side effects but gain some lean mass dose be? Be little add some masteron also
thank you very much[/quote]

Post a picture and your diet. I wouldn’t use turinabol for a cutting cycle. Masteron is a great option.
[/quote]

Thank you very much,
my diet
Meal 1: 6 egg white and yellow
30 gr flake oats with 10 grams of whey
Omega 3 and CLA

Before training: coffee and taurine training with 10g BCAA and 30g of Vitargo
Post training 40g of whey isolate, 5 grams of leucine, 5g glutamine

Meals 14 hours: 200g chicken or turkey meat horse
300 to 500 grams of green vegetables, 50 100GR cooked lentils or quinoa or rice, 10 grams of rapeseed oil
A natural soy yogurt, an omega 3, CLA 1

18 hours 40gr simple whey

Meals 20 hours: same meal in 14 hours but without carbohydrates

23 hours 40g casein and 5 almonds
J am afraid of falling too carbohydrates for muscle wasting[/quote]

Add MAG-10 30min before your first meal (1.5servings)

Preworkout, drop the vitargo (it’s crap) and replace it with Plazma. 1 serving preworkout and 2-3 servings intraworkout.

Replace your 1800 meal with 1.5servings of MAG-10

Remove the Soy Yogurt.

As for your cycle: go with test-p, masteron and anavar. Don’t forget to use HCG during the cycle and do a proper pct.
[/quote]
Thank you for the advice, what would be the soft dosage to use masteron 400 per week, anavar 40mg day, I will correct my diet already

304

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]rhod wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve been experiencing these weird cramps and spasms on the inside of my elbows (symptomatic of golfer’s elbow?). I’ve eliminated GH, which I thought could cause it because of swelling, and it was gone. Now I’ve injected tren a. and mast p. last night and it’s coming back.

Could it be the mast?[/quote]

It could be this… Are you taking any antiestrogens right now? This could also be a cause.

I don’t think it has anything to do with the juice, it sounds more like an injury from training or any physical stress on the joint. You can try anti inflammatories like naproxen and try hot and cold methods. Warm the joint before the workout and ice it post workout.[/quote]

I’ve had joint pain from low E, this is not like it. My E2 on my blood work last week was in the 40’s.

I have it in both elbows by the way, never had injuries in either. I’m cutting out the mast and see if that changes things. Thanks for the advice!

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[quote]rhod wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]rhod wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve been experiencing these weird cramps and spasms on the inside of my elbows (symptomatic of golfer’s elbow?). I’ve eliminated GH, which I thought could cause it because of swelling, and it was gone. Now I’ve injected tren a. and mast p. last night and it’s coming back.

Could it be the mast?[/quote]

It could be this… Are you taking any antiestrogens right now? This could also be a cause.

I don’t think it has anything to do with the juice, it sounds more like an injury from training or any physical stress on the joint. You can try anti inflammatories like naproxen and try hot and cold methods. Warm the joint before the workout and ice it post workout.[/quote]

I’ve had joint pain from low E, this is not like it. My E2 on my blood work last week was in the 40’s.

I have it in both elbows by the way, never had injuries in either. I’m cutting out the mast and see if that changes things. Thanks for the advice![/quote]

brother, cut out the shit that’s hurting RIGHT NOW. Seriously, you’ll regret it if you don’t. I’ve had elbow tendonitis and it took a year to go back to normal!

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[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]rhod wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]rhod wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve been experiencing these weird cramps and spasms on the inside of my elbows (symptomatic of golfer’s elbow?). I’ve eliminated GH, which I thought could cause it because of swelling, and it was gone. Now I’ve injected tren a. and mast p. last night and it’s coming back.

Could it be the mast?[/quote]

It could be this… Are you taking any antiestrogens right now? This could also be a cause.

I don’t think it has anything to do with the juice, it sounds more like an injury from training or any physical stress on the joint. You can try anti inflammatories like naproxen and try hot and cold methods. Warm the joint before the workout and ice it post workout.[/quote]

I’ve had joint pain from low E, this is not like it. My E2 on my blood work last week was in the 40’s.

I have it in both elbows by the way, never had injuries in either. I’m cutting out the mast and see if that changes things. Thanks for the advice![/quote]

brother, cut out the shit that’s hurting RIGHT NOW. Seriously, you’ll regret it if you don’t. I’ve had elbow tendonitis and it took a year to go back to normal![/quote]

I hear ya completely, I’m trying to find out what it is by deducing. Really think it’s the mast, will know by tomorrow. The symptoms subside very quickly when I don’t take anything.

307

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]alvertos wrote:
shadow did you look the results and pics from chicago?what you think of the condition and the placings?[/quote]

I thought Roelly looked pretty damn good considering he had a recent accident… A well deserved win in my eyes. Jojo Nitiforo was a big surprise for me, he looked very good and this was one of the only times I’ve seen him come ready. Essa obiad didn’t look conditioned from behind, very soft in the glutes and hams.

In the 212, tricky Jackson got a gift… I love this dude but he didn’t deserve to be in the top 5 here, his condition just wasn’t there.[/quote]

YES!!! Finally agreement !Great bro as you said but no way !
Ok lets see i need to ask a question???
Ok what do you think of guys saying you only need Test at a small dose?

Example: 250mgs of test-e @700mgs of tren ace?

They claim this is old school yet every Pro etc admits Test is still the king?

308

In the optimal setting of 6iu GH a day, do you split it up in two doses (morning 3iu, pwo 3iu) or would you do 6iu at once pre or post wo?

BTW I found humatrope, is it safe to say there is a higher chance of potency since it’s lyophilized with a separate mixing solution? My last batch was norditropin, and my blood work drawn 1 hour after 2iu injection was 248 IGF-1 which is lower than my standard IGF-1 I’ve had tested at different times throughout last year.

309

[quote]ILOVEGH wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]alvertos wrote:
shadow did you look the results and pics from chicago?what you think of the condition and the placings?[/quote]

I thought Roelly looked pretty damn good considering he had a recent accident… A well deserved win in my eyes. Jojo Nitiforo was a big surprise for me, he looked very good and this was one of the only times I’ve seen him come ready. Essa obiad didn’t look conditioned from behind, very soft in the glutes and hams.

In the 212, tricky Jackson got a gift… I love this dude but he didn’t deserve to be in the top 5 here, his condition just wasn’t there.[/quote]

YES!!! Finally agreement !Great bro as you said but no way !
Ok lets see i need to ask a question???
Ok what do you think of guys saying you only need Test at a small dose?

Example: 250mgs of test-e @700mgs of tren ace?

They claim this is old school yet every Pro etc admits Test is still the king?[/quote]

It can work, but I don’t know a lot of guys who use a system like this. When you are a guy who is on gear for the better part of the year you’d feel like absolute shit all the time if you do this. I can see doing it for a short period before a show, but I value my happiness! Haha

310

[quote]rhod wrote:
In the optimal setting of 6iu GH a day, do you split it up in two doses (morning 3iu, pwo 3iu) or would you do 6iu at once pre or post wo?

BTW I found humatrope, is it safe to say there is a higher chance of potency since it’s lyophilized with a separate mixing solution? My last batch was norditropin, and my blood work drawn 1 hour after 2iu injection was 248 IGF-1 which is lower than my standard IGF-1 I’ve had tested at different times throughout last year.[/quote]

6iu would be a minimum for muscle gains (I wouldn’t say optimal but it’s a good amount to grow)

If you’re dieting do 3iu on an empty stomach in the morning and 3iu 60-90min preworkout. For mass gaining purposes do it post workout and before bed (or middle of the night when you wake up to piss).

If it’s real humatrope (Lilly) then it’s the best GH that you can find. Your igf levels should be a lot higher than normal if it’s real GH. If you used another brand before and your igf levels were low then chances are it’s fake.

311

Master Shadow, two quick questions for u:

  • I gonna take TEST-C Mon-Thu and HCG Mon-Wed-Fri, is there a problem if on monday I mix the TEST with the HCG since both will be injected in the glutes?

  • Sometimes I miss a meal for one reason or other and I try to compensate it by drinking a protein shake in the middle of the night… Do you think it would be beneficial to do it anyways everyday to help in recovery, building new tissue, etc? I always get up twice every night to take a piss and it would not be an issue like setting the alarm for 3AM or something…

312

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:
Hello, I just saw my answer, sorry for the mistakes I have trouble with English, so I wanted to know I’m dry cycle, 182cm 84kg to 14% fat I want to get to 10% but I can not use stimulant products for the heart because small problems, I think the use turinabol, what the lightest that you just take to reduce side effects but gain some lean mass dose be? Be little add some masteron also
thank you very much[/quote]

Post a picture and your diet. I wouldn’t use turinabol for a cutting cycle. Masteron is a great option.
[/quote]

Thank you very much,
my diet
Meal 1: 6 egg white and yellow
30 gr flake oats with 10 grams of whey
Omega 3 and CLA

Before training: coffee and taurine training with 10g BCAA and 30g of Vitargo
Post training 40g of whey isolate, 5 grams of leucine, 5g glutamine

Meals 14 hours: 200g chicken or turkey meat horse
300 to 500 grams of green vegetables, 50 100GR cooked lentils or quinoa or rice, 10 grams of rapeseed oil
A natural soy yogurt, an omega 3, CLA 1

18 hours 40gr simple whey

Meals 20 hours: same meal in 14 hours but without carbohydrates

23 hours 40g casein and 5 almonds
J am afraid of falling too carbohydrates for muscle wasting[/quote]

Add MAG-10 30min before your first meal (1.5servings)

Preworkout, drop the vitargo (it’s crap) and replace it with Plazma. 1 serving preworkout and 2-3 servings intraworkout.

Replace your 1800 meal with 1.5servings of MAG-10

Remove the Soy Yogurt.

As for your cycle: go with test-p, masteron and anavar. Don’t forget to use HCG during the cycle and do a proper pct.
[/quote]
Thank you for the advice, what would be the soft dosage to use masteron 400 per week, anavar 40mg day, I will correct my diet already
[/quote]
Hello there,
With an injectable primobolan it not be better to do everything in injection
thank you

313

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:
Hello, I just saw my answer, sorry for the mistakes I have trouble with English, so I wanted to know I’m dry cycle, 182cm 84kg to 14% fat I want to get to 10% but I can not use stimulant products for the heart because small problems, I think the use turinabol, what the lightest that you just take to reduce side effects but gain some lean mass dose be? Be little add some masteron also
thank you very much[/quote]

Post a picture and your diet. I wouldn’t use turinabol for a cutting cycle. Masteron is a great option.
[/quote]

Thank you very much,
my diet
Meal 1: 6 egg white and yellow
30 gr flake oats with 10 grams of whey
Omega 3 and CLA

Before training: coffee and taurine training with 10g BCAA and 30g of Vitargo
Post training 40g of whey isolate, 5 grams of leucine, 5g glutamine

Meals 14 hours: 200g chicken or turkey meat horse
300 to 500 grams of green vegetables, 50 100GR cooked lentils or quinoa or rice, 10 grams of rapeseed oil
A natural soy yogurt, an omega 3, CLA 1

18 hours 40gr simple whey

Meals 20 hours: same meal in 14 hours but without carbohydrates

23 hours 40g casein and 5 almonds
J am afraid of falling too carbohydrates for muscle wasting[/quote]

Add MAG-10 30min before your first meal (1.5servings)

Preworkout, drop the vitargo (it’s crap) and replace it with Plazma. 1 serving preworkout and 2-3 servings intraworkout.

Replace your 1800 meal with 1.5servings of MAG-10

Remove the Soy Yogurt.

As for your cycle: go with test-p, masteron and anavar. Don’t forget to use HCG during the cycle and do a proper pct.
[/quote]
Thank you for the advice, what would be the soft dosage to use masteron 400 per week, anavar 40mg day, I will correct my diet already
[/quote]
Everybody talk about turinabol, it is a good steroid? For what cycle is it best to use and what dosage? The information is not complete on this steroid
Thank you for help M

314

hi shadow. i know you have mentioned this before i just can’t find the page, so i apologise for you reapeating yourself. if using an oral such as dbol as part of a cycle which tine do you think is the best to dose. iv always split it morning then a big dose pre workout. i see you mentioned before bed in a previous post. is your reasoning to do with more anabolic enviroment while sleeping to aid repair/recovery as iv never seen it dosed before bed before…thanks.

315

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]rhod wrote:
In the optimal setting of 6iu GH a day, do you split it up in two doses (morning 3iu, pwo 3iu) or would you do 6iu at once pre or post wo?

BTW I found humatrope, is it safe to say there is a higher chance of potency since it’s lyophilized with a separate mixing solution? My last batch was norditropin, and my blood work drawn 1 hour after 2iu injection was 248 IGF-1 which is lower than my standard IGF-1 I’ve had tested at different times throughout last year.[/quote]

6iu would be a minimum for muscle gains (I wouldn’t say optimal but it’s a good amount to grow)

If you’re dieting do 3iu on an empty stomach in the morning and 3iu 60-90min preworkout. For mass gaining purposes do it post workout and before bed (or middle of the night when you wake up to piss).

If it’s real humatrope (Lilly) then it’s the best GH that you can find. Your igf levels should be a lot higher than normal if it’s real GH. If you used another brand before and your igf levels were low then chances are it’s fake. [/quote]

What would be optimal? 8,9,10,12iu/day? I’m sure you have heard of the trend/protocol where people do 10iu EOD or 3x a week on a mass accrual phase. Do you think this was JUST with chinese stuff or have you heard of people doing it with Pharma GH? I have heard one guy from back in the day that was heavy in the scene/sport say 6iu EOD was considered a lot/living on the edge!(This is referring to the mid 90s)
Id be interested in looking into the prospect of 10iu Pharma EOD as opposed to 6-8iu daily.

My suggestion for testing IGF levels to the fella who inquired is take more than 2iu and test then. Try 4-6iu and see if IGF is in the 400-600 range.

Have you tried Genotropin or Norditropin? What are your thoughts? I remember previously you mentioned liking Humatrope and Serostim best.

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Master Shadow, two quick questions for u:

  • I gonna take TEST-C Mon-Thu and HCG Mon-Wed-Fri, is there a problem if on monday I mix the TEST with the HCG since both will be injected in the glutes?

  • Sometimes I miss a meal for one reason or other and I try to compensate it by drinking a protein shake in the middle of the night… Do you think it would be beneficial to do it anyways everyday to help in recovery, building new tissue, etc? I always get up twice every night to take a piss and it would not be an issue like setting the alarm for 3AM or something…[/quote]

The HCG is suspended in water not oil, DO NOT mix water and oil together for an injection. You can do it in the same day but it has to be separate injections.

It depends on your diet, MAG-10 in the middle of the night is a good idea. I often do this in my off season.

317

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]patrick34 wrote:
Hello, I just saw my answer, sorry for the mistakes I have trouble with English, so I wanted to know I’m dry cycle, 182cm 84kg to 14% fat I want to get to 10% but I can not use stimulant products for the heart because small problems, I think the use turinabol, what the lightest that you just take to reduce side effects but gain some lean mass dose be? Be little add some masteron also
thank you very much[/quote]

Post a picture and your diet. I wouldn’t use turinabol for a cutting cycle. Masteron is a great option.
[/quote]

Thank you very much,
my diet
Meal 1: 6 egg white and yellow
30 gr flake oats with 10 grams of whey
Omega 3 and CLA

Before training: coffee and taurine training with 10g BCAA and 30g of Vitargo
Post training 40g of whey isolate, 5 grams of leucine, 5g glutamine

Meals 14 hours: 200g chicken or turkey meat horse
300 to 500 grams of green vegetables, 50 100GR cooked lentils or quinoa or rice, 10 grams of rapeseed oil
A natural soy yogurt, an omega 3, CLA 1

18 hours 40gr simple whey

Meals 20 hours: same meal in 14 hours but without carbohydrates

23 hours 40g casein and 5 almonds
J am afraid of falling too carbohydrates for muscle wasting[/quote]

Add MAG-10 30min before your first meal (1.5servings)

Preworkout, drop the vitargo (it’s crap) and replace it with Plazma. 1 serving preworkout and 2-3 servings intraworkout.

Replace your 1800 meal with 1.5servings of MAG-10

Remove the Soy Yogurt.

As for your cycle: go with test-p, masteron and anavar. Don’t forget to use HCG during the cycle and do a proper pct.
[/quote]
Thank you for the advice, what would be the soft dosage to use masteron 400 per week, anavar 40mg day, I will correct my diet already
[/quote]
Hello there,
With an injectable primobolan it not be better to do everything in injection
thank you[/quote]

I’m assuming you are wondering if you can add primo into the cycle? (I’m not sure what you’re asking here, so I’m going to assume). I wouldn’t add primo to this cycle, you have no need for it right now.

318

[quote]
Everybody talk about turinabol, it is a good steroid? For what cycle is it best to use and what dosage? The information is not complete on this steroid
Thank you for help M[/quote]

Who is everybody? There’s no good or bad steroids… Everything has it’s place and time in a cycle according to individual needs. I spoke about turinabol dosages and usage in my last thread. Anywhere between 30-100mg depending on the individual who is using it.

319

Do you believe that at some point gear no longer gives you additional gains just extra sides. Let me try to clarify. I have been told for years on this board and in person that there is little point in going to higher than 750-1000mg of Test because you just won’t see any addition gains only extra side effects. But, then there are people who say the real “magic” doesn’t even start until 2 or 3g is surpassed. What is your take on it? I have never ran more than 1g of a compound at a time sl this is strictly educational nor do I know if I could ever justify running that much.

320

[quote]ginston wrote:
hi shadow. i know you have mentioned this before i just can’t find the page, so i apologise for you reapeating yourself. if using an oral such as dbol as part of a cycle which tine do you think is the best to dose. iv always split it morning then a bit dose pre workout. i see you mentioned before bed in a previous post. is your reasoning to do with more anabolic enviroment while sleeping to aid repair/recovery as iv never seen it dosed before bed before…thanks.[/quote]

Yes, this is exactly right. Also, remember you are growing when you’re sleeping so it gives your body another tool to aid growth.