Shadow Pro Q&A 2.0

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]P0SEID0N wrote:
What’s up Shadow?
I have a question and i would be really grateful if you could help me with it.
I have a herniated disc in my low back. A bodybuilder in the gym today told me that if i could do a 6 week cycle of NPP and growth hormone the herniation would heal completely and that it has healed him and many others he helped.

Could this be true or he was just trying to sell things to me?
And if this isn’t true, are there any drugs that heal this kind of injuries?
[/quote]

This is the biggest shit story I’ve ever heard in my life… And I’ve heard a lot of bullshit in my lifetime.

Nothing will cure a herniated disc besides a surgical procedure, the GH can help with the side effects in regards to pain and muscle recovery around the area but it won’t fix anything. I’m guessing this guy just wanted to sell you something. NPP will help with joint pain but also won’t “fix” it.

You can use these to help mask the problem and give you relief but don’t think for a second that it’s going to heal it.[/quote]

Thanks a lot Shadow! I am lucky that there is somenone like you here! I know nothing about this stuff and i didn’t have anyone to ask!
Thanks again man you are awesome!

I started novidex @20mg a day 2 weeks befor my last injection n will continue 4 20 days after. I only used 1 5000iu of hcg (its all i could get). I go tomorrow for blood work. If everything is good could I start the winstrol or should I wait longer. Im 5 weeks past last injection. Also any thing I should watch out for with winstrol? I dont know if its cool to ask n dont reply to this part if not. Were is best place to order winstrol?

[quote]ginston wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ginston wrote:
hi shadow i was looking for advice. i have been bodybuilding for quite a while now and a few of the gym owners who are close friends are pushing me into maybe doing a comp. id would like to give it a shot but i think what holds me back is not wanting to look stupid or ‘not ready’ etc so iv always put it off. i have got it in my head now that i may give it a shot.

i have plenty of time to get ready for it as its not until may so i have a long off season to try add some quality muscle and work on weak areas before i begin my prep. trouble is i have never really dieted properly always been bulking and trying to add mass.

any advice on maybe how id go about cycling etc obviously off season i would be looking at a mass gaining cycle. before prep begins. just looking on advice for transitioning into the prep phase as far as cycling goes.

also diet any tips or pointers on how to switch the diet during the prep stage. i dont expect a full plan just a guideline. i tolerate carbs very well and go as high as 600-700g in bulking phases. any advice on macros coming into pre contest?
im not a newbie when it comes to diet just not fully clued up on pre contest prep or strategies as i have never competed. any help would be massively appreciated.

*EDIT- thought i might add. i have done a few cycles so im not new to it. done a few different compounds. [/quote]

Hi,

I’d be happy to help but can you post a picture and your current diet so I can see your starting point. This will help me determine better advice with regards to cycle and macros, otherwise it will be very general and not necessarily productive.

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my weight is currently around 234lbs
bodyfat a little higher than id like. not sure on exact % as haven’t had it tested recently.

typical macros look somewhat like this

(changing sometimes depending on weight gain/fat etc)

protein- 400g usually stays the same
carbs- 600g-700g changing
fats-70g-100g changing

I’ll post up some recent pics. hopefully not critiqued too bad :wink:
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Before thinking about a mass phase, I would diet down to under 10% and you will have more optimal gains this way. Your bodyfat percentage right now isn’t very low and any muscle gains your have will be accompanied by fat. As a rule of thumb you don’t want to go over 10% bodyfat in the offseason.

I would suggest a 6-8 week diet phase where you’ll be on a calorie deficit to get down to the desired bodyfat. Just use short esters, hardening drugs and possibly some fat burners like t3 or Clen. I would also add a bit of cardio here.

In order to get to this place, you’ll need to drop your carbs and fat a bit. Try dropping the carbs down to ~400g and fat to 50g. For protein, just go with 1.5g per pound and you can go higher when you are leaner. The leaner you are, the more you can eat.

When you get to the 10% bodyfat then you can do a mini rebound and get into your off season. Once you reach this point, post some more pictures and I’ll help you build a rebound phase. There’s no reason to be over 10% in the offseason, it’ll be unproductive to your gains so this is the best suggestion I have for you in order to improve.

[quote]Somberlain1184 wrote:
Thanks for all of the valuable information, Shadow. I’ve read and re read every reply from you. I do simple once a year cycles, Test-E 15 weeks @ 750mg, and Dbol weeks 1-6 20mg-50mg (This simple cycle seems to give me great gains that I am happy with so I don’t feel the need to go much beyond this right now). I’ve used HCG 250iu x2 a week my last two cycles and I didn’t notice any difference, my testicles still atrophied and recovery seemed the same, so this time I only bought enough HCG that will last 8 weeks that I planned to blast through and possibly before the start of PCT.

How would you recommend taking the 8 weeks worth of HCG for pct? Do I take it during the two week clear out period of testosterone after my last pin as well?

My other PCT drugs include Nolva 40-40-20-20 and clomid 100-100-50-50.

Thanks in advance. [/quote]

The mistake you made is not taking HCG post cycle as well. You need to take it during the cycle and after.

During the cycle: 250iu 2x/week and 20mg of nolvadex

Post cycle: increase HCG to 1000-1500iu/week (break up to every other day shots) do this for 4 weeks.
Clomid and nolvadex are fine as per your suggestion.

[quote]P0SEID0N wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]P0SEID0N wrote:
What’s up Shadow?
I have a question and i would be really grateful if you could help me with it.
I have a herniated disc in my low back. A bodybuilder in the gym today told me that if i could do a 6 week cycle of NPP and growth hormone the herniation would heal completely and that it has healed him and many others he helped.

Could this be true or he was just trying to sell things to me?
And if this isn’t true, are there any drugs that heal this kind of injuries?
[/quote]

This is the biggest shit story I’ve ever heard in my life… And I’ve heard a lot of bullshit in my lifetime.

Nothing will cure a herniated disc besides a surgical procedure, the GH can help with the side effects in regards to pain and muscle recovery around the area but it won’t fix anything. I’m guessing this guy just wanted to sell you something. NPP will help with joint pain but also won’t “fix” it.

You can use these to help mask the problem and give you relief but don’t think for a second that it’s going to heal it.[/quote]

Thanks a lot Shadow! I am lucky that there is somenone like you here! I know nothing about this stuff and i didn’t have anyone to ask!
Thanks again man you are awesome!
[/quote]

You’re welcome, that’s why I’m here!

[quote]Patrick 118 wrote:
I started novidex @20mg a day 2 weeks befor my last injection n will continue 4 20 days after. I only used 1 5000iu of hcg (its all i could get). I go tomorrow for blood work. If everything is good could I start the winstrol or should I wait longer. Im 5 weeks past last injection. Also any thing I should watch out for with winstrol? I dont know if its cool to ask n dont reply to this part if not. Were is best place to order winstrol? [/quote]

If your blood tests are okay, meaning your test levels are back in range then wait until the 6 week mark and you can start. I usually recommend 2 more weeks to allow your body to balance itself, so 8 weeks is more advisable.

With winstrol, you might experience some joint sensitivity but not everyone has this problem.

Thank you! One last question, do I bump up the HCG to 1000iu at the start of my 4 week pct, or do I start running that amount directly after my last pin of test-E during the clear out period?


Hi Shadow pro. Loving all the info you have been sharing and thought maybe I can also get some advice…

I am 28 yo, natural to date and been lifting for about 10 years now, dieting for about 5 years with varying focus (life happens)
I recently decided my routine and budget is good enough for a first cycle, thought i’d do an easy oral cycle but having second thougts now. I already bought a cookie cutter beginners cycle but I would like your inputs and if possible use some of the stuff I already bought, proviron, anavar, clomid and nolvadex.
I have no aspirations for doing a show, but would like to be the best I can be. I am raring to go but guess my bodyfat is maybe a bit high?

Another pic.
My legs are average and I will be focusing on calves during the cycle

clean up your diet before you do any drugs. drugs arent magical, but the right food is.

lifting isnt the hard part… the hardest part of a decent physique is diet.

Hey,

I have a question.
Do you have any idea who GH15 was? Do you think his "steriod"bible is good advice?
He says you want very high doses tren in your blood, I don’t like high doses of tren it kills me appetite.
500mg tren with other products seems to work just as good without the side effects.

Thx :slight_smile:


Hi Shadow Pro.
I’ve read up to about page 35 of the last thread and all of this one. Great info on all sorts and thanks for it all

I’m 32 with experience on the juice starting when I was 16, stopped for a bit when I was 22. Started back up a couple of years ago but nothing like I used to. I flat out abused it when I was younger, taking silly things at silly dosages. Doing whatever other idiots would spout out at around the gym cause it sounded hardcore. I remember taking test e 250mgs a day at one point. Ridiculous obviously. This was at 19years old and I was just a rugby player.

When I started back with it I done a few anavar only cycles and then moved on to test p 100mgs EOD. It worked beautifully.
Then I tried tren and it is definitely not for me.
I’ve just finished up losing 70lbs of fat and now I’m much happier about doing a bit of a harder cycle as I’m not concerned about my weight anymore

After 6 months off I’m currently on test p, I started on 80mg’s/EOD, then 100/EOD and now 120/EOD. Moving up when i feel the affects wear off a bit, and Just trying to find a sweet spot really and I’ve found it now. If I need to go up again I will to 140/EOD. I’m in my 6th week looking to stop on 10.
I’ve just started HCG 250ius/e3d and nolva 10mg/day and that’s flat out on the info I’ve read through your threads.
My planned PCT for this cycle is
HCG 500iu/e3d
Clomid 50/day
Nolva 20/day

Again this is planned off the back of your information throughout the threads, if it needs correcting please do so any help is much appreciated

From being majorly overweight and trying some test e and tren I obviously suffered with major issues concerning water, puffyness, estrogen. So I’ve stayed away from long esters for a bit. But now feeling much better about my weight I’ve planned this as my next cycle…

12 weeks
Test e 400mg/week
Mast e 500mg/week
HCG 250iu/e3d
Nolva 10mg/day

PCT would be same as above

I’ve read some things that the test e and mast e should match dosage? Not sure exactly but please adjust my planned cycle as necessary if you don’t mind

Also, as I’d like to do my next planned cycle as soon as possible after my current cycle, how long should I take off between the two cycles?

I’m 32.
6’2"

Trying to upload photos not sure if it’ll work
First(fat) photo is 2 years ago at 298lbs
Second(better) photo is yesterday 226lbs

Thanks again Shadow you’re help Is invaluable


Apologies for so much text in my first post I had no idea it was that much

Second photo

Shadow, I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but hopefully you’re able to help me.
What would you recommend for a college student like myself regarding diet? Obviously I don’t have a shit-ton of cash and I’m not always necessarily in control of what’s available to me. I already purchased a 10 pound thing of weight gainer in order to keep my calorie, carb and protein count decent, but my diet isn’t impeccable. I’m not trying to diet to become the next Mr. O, but I’d sure like to be able to eat nutritiously and as frequently as I have/need to. I’d like to still be able to put on lean muscle and not end up with any more fat than I need.

I had already started a thread about gaining too much fat in another part of the forum and the other guys were very helpful. I’m curious as to your thoughts about it, though.
I’d also like to point out that I have certain food allergies (all nuts known to man, carrots, uncooked unions, bananas) and a very mild case of IBS…

8 years training experince, clean diet(mountain dog), and 3 cycles under my belt, how aggressive/advised would this be.
260lbs
6’2
15% BF

Cut Phase to 10-12% BF

8 Wks
Test P 150mg EOD
TrenA 100mg EOD
Winny 50mg ED First 6wks
Nolva 20mg a day
HCG 50iu every 3rd Day

4 wk Cruise
Test E 300mg a week
Nolva 20mg a day
HCG 500iu every 3rd day

Bulk 16 wks
1g Test
600mg Tren E
800mg EQ
Dbol 80mg a day First 6 weeks
500iu HCG every 3rd day
Nolva 20mg a day

PCT

[quote]Somberlain1184 wrote:
Thank you! One last question, do I bump up the HCG to 1000iu at the start of my 4 week pct, or do I start running that amount directly after my last pin of test-E during the clear out period?[/quote]

Bump it up only when you start the 4 week pct. The HCG you’re doing during the cycle will keep you stable until the test is out of your system.

[quote]m0lt3n wrote:
Hi Shadow pro. Loving all the info you have been sharing and thought maybe I can also get some advice…

I am 28 yo, natural to date and been lifting for about 10 years now, dieting for about 5 years with varying focus (life happens)
I recently decided my routine and budget is good enough for a first cycle, thought i’d do an easy oral cycle but having second thougts now. I already bought a cookie cutter beginners cycle but I would like your inputs and if possible use some of the stuff I already bought, proviron, anavar, clomid and nolvadex.
I have no aspirations for doing a show, but would like to be the best I can be. I am raring to go but guess my bodyfat is maybe a bit high?
[/quote]

Thank you for posting pictures, it helps me a lot. I would definitely try to adjust your diet first before starting a cycle, you’ll get much better results from the cycle if you’re starting at 10% bodyfat or lower.

You can use the stuff you bought, but let’s get your bodyfat down to a reasonable level.

Can you post your current diet and supplements and then I’ll help you from there.

Trust me, if you wait and start from a low bodyfat then your results will be much better.

[quote]Portierken wrote:
Hey,

I have a question.
Do you have any idea who GH15 was? Do you think his "steriod"bible is good advice?
He says you want very high doses tren in your blood, I don’t like high doses of tren it kills me appetite.
500mg tren with other products seems to work just as good without the side effects.

Thx :)[/quote]

I read some of his stuff. He has some decent points but most of it was over exaggerated for the most part.

I think most of these dosages that he suggested to regular gym rats is ridiculous. You definitely don’t need so much tren to get results, what you are doing is just fine.

No, I don’t know who it is…

[quote]BusterTanner100 wrote:
Apologies for so much text in my first post I had no idea it was that much

Second photo[/quote]

Your doing this better this time. Congrats on the weight/fat loss!

I would still try to lose some more bodyfat before hopping into a harder cycle, you will see better results if you wait. Try to add some cardio and adjust your diet more.

As for your pct for your current cycle, for the 5 weeks post cycle do nolvadex @ 40/40/40/20/20, clomid @ 100/100/50/50 and HCG as your suggested.

The next cycle you’re offering is good but before you start I highly recommend to lose more bodyfat, you’re on the right track. I would get on some fat burning supplements to speed the process (nothing prescription) indigo would work great and HOT-ROX.

The time between the cycles would be 6weeks minimum and 8 weeks would be preferred.

[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Shadow, I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but hopefully you’re able to help me.
What would you recommend for a college student like myself regarding diet? Obviously I don’t have a shit-ton of cash and I’m not always necessarily in control of what’s available to me. I already purchased a 10 pound thing of weight gainer in order to keep my calorie, carb and protein count decent, but my diet isn’t impeccable. I’m not trying to diet to become the next Mr. O, but I’d sure like to be able to eat nutritiously and as frequently as I have/need to. I’d like to still be able to put on lean muscle and not end up with any more fat than I need.

I had already started a thread about gaining too much fat in another part of the forum and the other guys were very helpful. I’m curious as to your thoughts about it, though.
I’d also like to point out that I have certain food allergies (all nuts known to man, carrots, uncooked unions, bananas) and a very mild case of IBS…[/quote]

Can you post a current picture and your current diet ? I understand it’s not something structured but give me a rough idea and I’ll be able to help.