You seem really naive and delusional about all of this. Like a girl with chlamydia fucking random dudes off of the internet without condoms is taken aback by all of this. For the sake of humanity get a vasectomy.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I think you guys need to get off the high horse about throwing asshole comments and saying he’s ruined his kid’s lives.[/quote]
You’re right, I’m on a high horse, and I honestly don’t care.
You’re also right, that this might not effect his kids lives in a negative way, and I already mentioned that.
But I’ll just leave this here for people to mull over:
The bottom line is that there is a large body of literature showing that children of single mothers are more likely to commit crimes than children who grow up with their married parents. This is true not just in the United States, but wherever the issue has been researched.
Having lived through both, neither are particularly pleasant, no.
Yes, and there is a significant body of evidence showing that a statistically significant number of “criminal minded” individuals come from broken homes.
Not only does OP clearly imply this was his problem that lead to the split, but life, love, marriage and family is about so much more than “fucking” I don’t even want to start.
While sex, and sexual attraction is important, it isn’t like anything to described above isn’t reversible and/or very simply handled with communication and mutual understanding.
Plus, you make the assumption that he didn’t “let himself go” as well.
Interesting that you instantly assume the onus is on her, and her short comings, and I assumed it was on him.
This isn’t a damnation or a statement saying either one of us is more right than the other, but rather an interesting happening.
I would use the word conjecture, but yeah, I’m doing it, and am going to continue to do it based on shit OP posted and continues to post.
The first part of your statement here, is all the more reason I brought about the reason for the second part of your statement.
Because life is about more than getting your dick wet.
Aside from the fact it didn’t seem to both him all that much before, as “kids” implies they had sex more than once.
[quote]All I’m saying is that you “family oriented” guys are just a WEEE bit over the top in your sense of superiority. An intact family is great. But if EVERYONE involved isn’t doing their part, it isn’t HIS fault for wanting to get out of it… There’s plenty of blame to go around.
[/quote]
Maybe, that is part of the problem, and not the solution?
These days, literally the only way to truly “rebel” is to be in a long term committed relationship that you work on, go to work everyday, dress modestly, be in decent shape and just generally be a kind and generous person who cares about others more than themselves.
Maybe the “new normal” fucking sucks.
[quote]Rowans1 wrote:
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I don’t take the trolls seriously. They’re just showing where their heads are at, by being so keen to spew hate with almost no information.[/quote]
lmfao.
Don’t take “trolls” seriously? First off, I’m not trolling. I’ve pissed off quite a few people on this forum speaking my mind over quite a few years. And this time, just like most others, I’m not really concerned with you, or your story. The simple fact is, if it takes me being an asshole and making assumptions (that I’d bet I’m not too far off on, otherwise you would have actually responded on how I was wrong) saves some kids who is 21 now and “in love” from making a choice that he otherwise shouldn’t… Then it was worth it to “troll you”.
Spew Hate? WTF is wrong with the world today. Just because someone disagrees with you, criticizes you or otherwise isn’t nice to you, doesn’t make them a “hater” and instantly validate your stance through your hurt feelings.
As for where my head is at, I’ve been pretty clear.
Look, I don’t give two shits about you, maybe one, but certainly not two. Based on your posting here I’m not really impressed. You left your family, fucked a whore, got an STD and then went on an internet forum looking to talk about it? That screams “internet troll”. And if it isn’t you just posting fiction for the sake of entertainment it certainly screams “lack of critical thinking and judgment skills.”
If two people in the world think twice after reading this then I wear my “assumptive asshole, judgmental prick” badge with pride.
When you get married vows are made. And unless your vows included clauses unlike any vows I have ever seen, then you don’t break them. Do I think I am better than this clown? Yep, because I keep my word. It always kills me when fat asses complain because their wives get fat.
If you aren’t cool with sticking out a marriage no matter what then don’t make the vow and don’t get married. Sure as hell don’t have kids. They would be better off for it. Also, the OP is kind of proving my point here about being not much of a man. He threw a drink and a purse for fucks sake.
Edit: I am just adding a standing ditto to whatever beans says here.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Rowans1 wrote:
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I don’t take the trolls seriously. They’re just showing where their heads are at, by being so keen to spew hate with almost no information.[/quote]
lmfao.
Don’t take “trolls” seriously? First off, I’m not trolling. I’ve pissed off quite a few people on this forum speaking my mind over quite a few years. And this time, just like most others, I’m not really concerned with you, or your story. The simple fact is, if it takes me being an asshole and making assumptions (that I’d bet I’m not too far off on, otherwise you would have actually responded on how I was wrong) saves some kids who is 21 now and “in love” from making a choice that he otherwise shouldn’t… Then it was worth it to “troll you”.
Spew Hate? WTF is wrong with the world today. Just because someone disagrees with you, criticizes you or otherwise isn’t nice to you, doesn’t make them a “hater” and instantly validate your stance through your hurt feelings.
As for where my head is at, I’ve been pretty clear.
Look, I don’t give two shits about you, maybe one, but certainly not two. Based on your posting here I’m not really impressed. You left your family, fucked a whore, got an STD and then went on an internet forum looking to talk about it? That screams “internet troll”. And if it isn’t you just posting fiction for the sake of entertainment it certainly screams “lack of critical thinking and judgment skills.”
If two people in the world think twice after reading this then I wear my “assumptive asshole, judgmental prick” badge with pride. [/quote]
outstanding post beans
What kind of a grown man throws his drink at a woman?
Fuckin bush league…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What kind of a grown man throws his drink at a woman?
Fuckin bush league…[/quote]
And then he threw her purse on the ground to really show her what kind of man he was.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
These days, literally the only way to truly “rebel” is to be in a long term committed relationship that you work on, go to work everyday, dress modestly, be in decent shape and just generally be a kind and generous person who cares about others more than themselves.
Maybe the “new normal” fucking sucks.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm -
a new paradigm?
I need to give this some thought, Beansie~
but I like where you are going with this~
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Rowans1 wrote:
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I don’t take the trolls seriously. They’re just showing where their heads are at, by being so keen to spew hate with almost no information.[/quote]
lmfao.
Don’t take “trolls” seriously? First off, I’m not trolling. I’ve pissed off quite a few people on this forum speaking my mind over quite a few years. And this time, just like most others, I’m not really concerned with you, or your story. The simple fact is, if it takes me being an asshole and making assumptions (that I’d bet I’m not too far off on, otherwise you would have actually responded on how I was wrong) saves some kids who is 21 now and “in love” from making a choice that he otherwise shouldn’t… Then it was worth it to “troll you”.
Spew Hate? WTF is wrong with the world today. Just because someone disagrees with you, criticizes you or otherwise isn’t nice to you, doesn’t make them a “hater” and instantly validate your stance through your hurt feelings.
As for where my head is at, I’ve been pretty clear.
Look, I don’t give two shits about you, maybe one, but certainly not two. Based on your posting here I’m not really impressed. You left your family, fucked a whore, got an STD and then went on an internet forum looking to talk about it? That screams “internet troll”. And if it isn’t you just posting fiction for the sake of entertainment it certainly screams “lack of critical thinking and judgment skills.”
If two people in the world think twice after reading this then I wear my “assumptive asshole, judgmental prick” badge with pride. [/quote]
outstanding post beans
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x2 - Beansie hit this one out of the park~
Thanks guys, for the kind words.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
These days, literally the only way to truly “rebel” is to be in a long term committed relationship that you work on, go to work everyday, dress modestly, be in decent shape and just generally be a kind and generous person who cares about others more than themselves.
Maybe the “new normal” fucking sucks.
[/quote]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm -
a new paradigm?
I need to give this some thought, Beansie~
but I like where you are going with this~[/quote]
I mean obviously there is some hyperbole in there, and maybe it is social media making people’s shit opinions more available and the world has always been the way it seems now, but man some days it just feels like we as a society really have a long ass way to go, lol.
One I forgot to mention is being masculine, not a dick head, not a fringe member of the Men’s Right’s movement, but just generally not being a limp noodle in your life is another.
I’m sure we could go on and on, and maybe I’m just old and having a “get off my lawn” moment, but it really seems we’ve come to the point where being a decent person is the “hipster” thing to do in order to be “non-conformist”.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Thanks guys, for the kind words.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
These days, literally the only way to truly “rebel” is to be in a long term committed relationship that you work on, go to work everyday, dress modestly, be in decent shape and just generally be a kind and generous person who cares about others more than themselves.
Maybe the “new normal” fucking sucks.
[/quote]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm -
a new paradigm?
I need to give this some thought, Beansie~
but I like where you are going with this~[/quote]
I mean obviously there is some hyperbole in there, and maybe it is social media making people’s shit opinions more available and the world has always been the way it seems now, but man some days it just feels like we as a society really have a long ass way to go, lol.
One I forgot to mention is being masculine, not a dick head, not a fringe member of the Men’s Right’s movement, but just generally not being a limp noodle in your life is another.
I’m sure we could go on and on, and maybe I’m just old and having a “get off my lawn” moment, but it really seems we’ve come to the point where being a decent person is the “hipster” thing to do in order to be “non-conformist”.[/quote]
Srsly…
I like this and have said this in the past.
Remember a few years ago, the buzz was being a hero. I stated that in the vacuum of a real conflict or situation, a hero is the guy that goes to work every day, does his job to the best of his ability, provides for his family and pays his taxes (no offense, I know you are an accountant), is a good father and helps to raise the kids in a moral protected environment.
although that did not gain any real traction, I stood by that - and only recently have I tried to project an alternate description of cheating, and worked towards either rationalizing this paradigm, or suggesting a new morality that does not include sex as the sole modicum for the marriage pact.
In arguing my point, or working towards a rationalization I have been reminded of the vows (I do take vows very seriously, and can still argue the content of the vows, over the intent of the vows, but it is not a discussion for this thread) of the marriage pact, and you have, once again, driven the point home in your last few posts.
the OP did leave the marriage, and put the family in jeopardy - yes, this is tru. all for some random snatch? I doubt it, there has got to be more to it - there always is~ I am not here to judge, and am sure that there are two sides to the story.
But, I want you to know that you have given me pause - And I appreciate not only the depth of your knowledge/experience, but more importantly - your ferocity in standing your ground. That is truly your best trait. That and you do admit your failings…
I mean this in the most sincere way, that I think I am a better person for having know you this many years. I know that I piss you off from time to time, and that IRL, you would not have me in your inner circle, but know this - I appreciate you.
Edgy~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
I mean this in the most sincere way, that I think I am a better person for having know you this many years. [/quote]
Wow man, I don’t really even know what to say. Mainly because I feel like “thank you” isn’t really enough.
It’s strange (in a wonderful way) how the internet, some vast, anonymous, ultimately random collection of people posting their thoughts and feelings can lead people to feel connection they don’t (or wouldn’t) get in a flesh and blood interaction.
lol, and I’m pretty sure there isn’t a single person on Earth I’ve interacted with on any sort of real level I haven’t pissed off from time to time.
[quote]and that IRL, you would not have me in your inner circle, but know this - I appreciate you.
Edgy~[/quote]
I think you are too quick to judge. But that being said my “inner circle” is more like a square. There aren’t many people I trust/love on that level.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What kind of a grown man throws his drink at a woman?
Fuckin bush league…[/quote]
How is there almost no reaction to this? This is amazingly weak… He threw a drink in her face and slammed her purse on the ground…
I wonder if given the chance to do it again, he would have pulled her hair and scratched her.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What kind of a grown man throws his drink at a woman?
Fuckin bush league…[/quote]
LOL
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
I wonder if given the chance to do it again, he would have pulled her hair and scratched her.[/quote]
That’s probably what she really wanted all along.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Rowans1 wrote:
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I don’t take the trolls seriously. They’re just showing where their heads are at, by being so keen to spew hate with almost no information.[/quote]
lmfao.
Don’t take “trolls” seriously? First off, I’m not trolling. I’ve pissed off quite a few people on this forum speaking my mind over quite a few years. And this time, just like most others, I’m not really concerned with you, or your story. The simple fact is, if it takes me being an asshole and making assumptions (that I’d bet I’m not too far off on, otherwise you would have actually responded on how I was wrong) saves some kids who is 21 now and “in love” from making a choice that he otherwise shouldn’t… Then it was worth it to “troll you”.
Spew Hate? WTF is wrong with the world today. Just because someone disagrees with you, criticizes you or otherwise isn’t nice to you, doesn’t make them a “hater” and instantly validate your stance through your hurt feelings.
As for where my head is at, I’ve been pretty clear.
Look, I don’t give two shits about you, maybe one, but certainly not two. Based on your posting here I’m not really impressed. You left your family, fucked a whore, got an STD and then went on an internet forum looking to talk about it? That screams “internet troll”. And if it isn’t you just posting fiction for the sake of entertainment it certainly screams “lack of critical thinking and judgment skills.”
If two people in the world think twice after reading this then I wear my “assumptive asshole, judgmental prick” badge with pride. [/quote]
Seriously dude wtf is wrong with you? He mentioned trolls in general, hasn’t said one word to you directly and you write another essay?!?
You know that feeling you get behind your eyes when you write this stuff? It’s a hate tumour. Keep going buddy, it’ll kill you eventually.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
I wonder if given the chance to do it again, he would have pulled her hair and scratched her.[/quote]
That’s probably what she really wanted all along.[/quote]
Girls who are addicted to drama always LOVE the hair pulling. And sticking it in their poopers.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What kind of a grown man throws his drink at a woman?
Fuckin bush league…[/quote]
I guess you’d congratulate her for lying, cheating and giving you a disease?
But yeah, pretty weird behaviour.
[quote]Sxio wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Rowans1 wrote:
They’re just showing where their heads are at, [/quote]
I wear my “assumptive asshole, judgmental prick” badge with pride. [/quote]
I just mentioned trolls in general [/quote]
hmmm… Someone forgot to log into their “special” account before posting I see.
Speaking of trolls.
This just further validates my previous conjecture. And the feeling behind my eyes is sinus pressure from allergies, thanks for the concern, but pretty sure it isn’t terminal. I do hate it though.
haha, caught you before your edits