Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of using a bench shirt to help press more weight? I recently entered a local contest combo bench and deadlift. I lost to a guy benching almost 150 lb more than me by using a bench shirt. I have read about guys benching 300 pounds more with a shirt on and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating. Get your ass under the bar and lift. Can someone who powerlifts explain to me how using a shirt or squat suit to set records they could not do without it makes sense.
This is not the place to bitch about how using gear is stupid/pointless/cheating. Please find another place to troll.
[quote]gambit10 wrote:
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[quote]gambit10 wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of using a bench shirt to help press more weight? I recently entered a local contest combo bench and deadlift. I lost to a guy benching almost 150 lb more than me by using a bench shirt. I have read about guys benching 300 pounds more with a shirt on and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating. Get your ass under the bar and lift. Can someone who powerlifts explain to me how using a shirt or squat suit to set records they could not do without it makes sense.[/quote]
If you’re a powerlifter interested in lifting more weight, and a shirt/ suit helps you lift more weight, you use it.
Stop complaining, jesus.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
gambit10 wrote:
I lost
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Didn’t see this before i posted.
Lol
[quote]gambit10 wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of using a bench shirt to help press more weight? I recently entered a local contest combo bench and deadlift. I lost to a guy benching almost 150 lb more than me by using a bench shirt. I have read about guys benching 300 pounds more with a shirt on and for the life of me I cant figure out what that proves. How is this not cheating. Get your ass under the bar and lift. Can someone who powerlifts explain to me how using a shirt or squat suit to set records they could not do without it makes sense.[/quote]
Equipped lifting is completly different than raw lifting, it’s like compating apples to freight trains. Wearing a bench shirt isn’t cheating becasue the rules allow it, and people that compete with bench shirts on usually compete against people with shirts, so therefore it’s a level playing field.
Equipped lifting is all about pushing the limits of the human body
And if you don’t like competing against guys wearing equipment then compete in raw competitions
[quote]gambit10 wrote:
Can someone please explain to me who came up with the idea of using a bench shirt to help press more weight? I recently entered a local contest combo bench and deadlift. I lost to a guy benching almost 150 lb more than me by using a bench shirt.He was much stronger than me because I have sand in my vag and I suck big hairy black/asian dick. I also lost my virginity to my mom.[/quote]
fixed for accuracy.
“bench shirts are designed to keep the lifter safe and more secure while he is lifting”
-Dave Tate
There’s no need to be rude guys.
To the Original Poster:
It’s just different, not better or worse. If you complain that it’s unfair, compete only against raw lifters.
If you don’t like guys who use gear, go compete raw. And there is a whole different skill and training set involved with geared lifting. Its as much as an art form as a strength sport. There’s a lot to be appreciated about a lifter who spends hours and hours under the bar to learn the exact way to use his gear. it’s just another tool of the trade.
[quote]musicma1n1 wrote:
There’s no need to be rude guys.
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Yes there is. When someone comes into a PL forum (of which there are MANY geared lifters) and basically infers that people who lift in gear are too insecure to lift raw and get smaller numbers, there is a reason to be rude in response.
I mean, if we were really going to be rude, we’d call him a whiny little bitch who’s not willing to deal with holding an extra 150lbs in his hands or the bruises/broken skin we get from wearing a shirt.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
EDIT: Let alone the fact that he could have just competed in a raw competition and this could have been avoided. No one told him to compete raw in a geared competition.
John Inzer.
Now, move along.
Shirt benching is much more technical then raw benching
A man, who didn’t have titties.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
A man, who didn’t have titties. [/quote]
He asked who came up with bench shirts, not a two board.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
There’s no need to be rude guys.
Yes there is. When someone comes into a PL forum (of which there are MANY geared lifters) and basically infers that people who lift in gear are too insecure to lift raw and get smaller numbers, there is a reason to be rude in response.
I’m not trying to be an ass, but what other reason is there? Also, maybe the op didn’t know about bench shirts until after.
I respect how much work goes in to mastering the gear and understand that the shirt/suit by itself ain’t doin’ shit, but if you take a guy who benches 315 raw and 495 in a shirt then it should be understood that the shirt is doing an awful lot of the work. With the weight some of the lifters are getting out of their gear [300+ on a bench] it seems like we’re right around the corner from a fatal accident.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
There’s no need to be rude guys.
Yes there is. When someone comes into a PL forum (of which there are MANY geared lifters) and basically infers that people who lift in gear are too insecure to lift raw and get smaller numbers, there is a reason to be rude in response.
I’m not trying to be an ass, but what other reason is there? Also, maybe the op didn’t know about bench shirts until after.
I respect how much work goes in to mastering the gear and understand that the shirt/suit by itself ain’t doin’ shit, but if you take a guy who benches 315 raw and 495 in a shirt then it should be understood that the shirt is doing an awful lot of the work. With the weight some of the lifters are getting out of their gear [300+ on a bench] it seems like we’re right around the corner from a fatal accident.[/quote]
I’m not trying to be an ass, either, but if you don’t get it, you probably never will.
It’s not an insecurity thing, it’s about big fucking numbers. No one ever said a shirt doesn’t help. No one ever said that the shirt doesn’t do ‘a lot’ of work.
That said, who the hell is getting 300+ lbs out of a bench shirt other than guys like Mendelson, Luyando, and Kenelly?
I get about 75-100lbs out of my single ply katana.
If someone outside of powerlifting asks me how much I bench, I’ll tell them 340. Which is how much I’ve done raw, off my chest. If a fellow PLer asks me how much I bench, I tell them 430 in a katana.
Right around the corner from a fatal accident? Tell that to the guy at USC who dropped the barbell on his throat. Good thing he was benching raw.
I gotta say, I bench with a shirt 1) because I want to lift at the national level, and 2) because it makes my shoulders stop hurting. It isn’t JUST about the big numbers.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
musicma1n1 wrote:
There’s no need to be rude guys.
Yes there is. When someone comes into a PL forum (of which there are MANY geared lifters) and basically infers that people who lift in gear are too insecure to lift raw and get smaller numbers, there is a reason to be rude in response.
I’m not trying to be an ass, but what other reason is there? Also, maybe the op didn’t know about bench shirts until after.
I respect how much work goes in to mastering the gear and understand that the shirt/suit by itself ain’t doin’ shit, but if you take a guy who benches 315 raw and 495 in a shirt then it should be understood that the shirt is doing an awful lot of the work. With the weight some of the lifters are getting out of their gear [300+ on a bench] it seems like we’re right around the corner from a fatal accident.
I’m not trying to be an ass, either, but if you don’t get it, you probably never will.
It’s not an insecurity thing, it’s about big fucking numbers. No one ever said a shirt doesn’t help. No one ever said that the shirt doesn’t do ‘a lot’ of work.
That said, who the hell is getting 300+ lbs out of a bench shirt other than guys like Mendelson, Luyando, and Kenelly?
I get about 75-100lbs out of my single ply katana.
If someone outside of powerlifting asks me how much I bench, I’ll tell them 340. Which is how much I’ve done raw, off my chest. If a fellow PLer asks me how much I bench, I tell them 430 in a katana.
Right around the corner from a fatal accident? Tell that to the guy at USC who dropped the barbell on his throat. Good thing he was benching raw.[/quote]
Of course I understand it’s about “big fucking numbers”. Being about “big fucking numbers” is indirectly agreeing with the assertion that you’re insecure. And using the RB from USC makes no sense. Accidents happen randomly, but holding several hundred pounds over your face that you wouldn’t be able to otherwise is seemingly asking for trouble. I personally only know one person who’s used a shirt and he got about 150lbs out of it. But, I’ve read of quite a few people who get 300 or so out of their shirts. Shit, I don’t care if it’s just 100lbs. That’s a lot of extra weight.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Of course I understand it’s about “big fucking numbers”.[/quote]
See, the thing is, you really don’t.
No, it’s not. Posting a thread on here bitching and moaning about people benching more than he does because his opponent was wearing a bench shirt (in a geared competition, no less) is insecure. I don’t lift weights for anyone other than myself. Just because I want to lift “big fucking numbers” doesn’t mean I’m lifting them for anyone else.
Yeah, me bringing up a guy who nearly died after dropping a loaded barbell on his throat “makes no sense” after YOU mentioned being on the brink of a “near fatal accident.”
No, it’s really not. “That you wouldn’t be able to otherwise.” What the fuck do you even mean? Do you really think there are powerlifters out there who bench 500 in a shirt and then think they can do that raw, too? If you can bench 500 in a shirt, you can bench 500 in a shirt. It’s as simple as that.
If you agree that accidents happen randomly, then what the fuck’s the difference if you bench raw or shirted? Shit can happen either way. Also, since you’re on this “it’s dangerous” kick, every rep I do in a shirt I have three spotters around me that can, will, and have caught the bar before it comes crashing down on me.
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I personally only know one person who’s used a shirt and he got about 150lbs out of it. But, I’ve read of quite a few people who get 300 or so out of their shirts. Shit, I don’t care if it’s just 100lbs. That’s a lot of extra weight.[/quote]
I read a lot of things on the internet, too. It’s all true.