Replacing Benching with Dips in 5/3/1

New work schedule is making it so I can’t go to the gym and at home I won’t have a spotter do to the times I’ll be lifting.

I’m thinking dips would be a fine substitute. I’d be doing dips again on my OHP day as well though, and am wondering if doing 5x10 dips on Sunday then doing 5/3/1 style dips on wednesday followed up by 5x10 dips is going to burn me out on the exercise.

Do what you need to do, but I pity your elbows.

I know Jim ‘approves’ of weighted chin-ups as a main exercise. You need to factor in your weight when figuring out the percentages.

if your shoulders can handle it then do it!

why dont you head over to elitefts and ask the man himself what he thinks?

I don’t see how you can use DIPS as your main exercise to replace benching. Don’t you have dumbells are something? I know Wendler loves dips in the book , and so do I , but I just don’t see it replacing benching. I’ve always viewed it as a assistance exercise. Are you doing 2,3, or 4 workouts per week?

If you are doing 5/3/1 you shouldn’t need a spotter – you shouldn’t be going to failure!

[quote]rkelly281 wrote:
If you are doing 5/3/1 you shouldn’t need a spotter – you shouldn’t be going to failure![/quote]

Exactly. Leave a rep in the tank, problem solved.

I’ve got two guys doing 531 dips right now. But they are not including them elsewhere as assistance. That would be a bit of volume right on the shoulders. To alleviate shoulder stress Ive got a harness that I’m able to strap the extra weight to that is not the typical belt harness. It’s a safety harness for High angle work that allows me to yoke the weight off the chest so that it gives the lifter a more horizontal torso angle as the harness is yoked over the shoulders.

Just like this one and the weight is yoked from the D rings in the form of some DB’s plates W/E. This thing gives a straight up genocidal pump in the B cups.

-chris

i agree on the count that why do you need a spotter? Even if you did think there was a chance you could go to failure, don’t you have a rack you can set up in? I’d rather do incline press as the main movement if no lift-off was an issue.

A dip is not a bench press, therefore you wont have the same effect. If your scared of benching without a spotter, what are you going to do with squatting??

[quote]brauny96 wrote:
A dip is not a bench press, therefore you wont have the same effect. If your scared of benching without a spotter, what are you going to do with squatting??[/quote]

BAZING!

[quote]brauny96 wrote:
A dip is not a bench press, therefore you wont have the same effect. If your scared of benching without a spotter, what are you going to do with squatting??[/quote]

Drop the bar on the safety racks? Dump the bar behind him?

What is he going to do when he has 300lbs stuck on his chest and no one is around? Or something terrible happens and that bar comes plummeting down? I personally wouldn’t bench without a spotter, or at least other people around, either.

To the OP: I’d say go for it, but don’t do it as an assistance exercise then except for BBB on that day.

do people do maxes with dips??? this is an actual question

[quote]goochadamg wrote:

[quote]brauny96 wrote:
A dip is not a bench press, therefore you wont have the same effect. If your scared of benching without a spotter, what are you going to do with squatting??[/quote]

Drop the bar on the safety racks? Dump the bar behind him?

What is he going to do when he has 300lbs stuck on his chest and no one is around? Or something terrible happens and that bar comes plummeting down? I personally wouldn’t bench without a spotter, or at least other people around, either.

To the OP: I’d say go for it, but don’t do it as an assistance exercise then except for BBB on that day.

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um, you can set the safety pins in a rack so that at rest, the bar is sitting on the pins, but when you are arched, your chest pokes out slightly above the pins. that way, if you fail, you just relax your arch, and the weight will then be resting on the pins.

[quote]challer1 wrote:

[quote]goochadamg wrote:

[quote]brauny96 wrote:
A dip is not a bench press, therefore you wont have the same effect. If your scared of benching without a spotter, what are you going to do with squatting??[/quote]

Drop the bar on the safety racks? Dump the bar behind him?

What is he going to do when he has 300lbs stuck on his chest and no one is around? Or something terrible happens and that bar comes plummeting down? I personally wouldn’t bench without a spotter, or at least other people around, either.

To the OP: I’d say go for it, but don’t do it as an assistance exercise then except for BBB on that day.

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um, you can set the safety pins in a rack so that at rest, the bar is sitting on the pins, but when you are arched, your chest pokes out slightly above the pins. that way, if you fail, you just relax your arch, and the weight will then be resting on the pins.[/quote]

This is true. But this is all really assumming he has a rack with adjustable pins, which he may not. Anyway, I still think squatting without a spotter is far far less dangerous than benching without one.