Pretty Little Hate Machine

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Cant see the tutorial at work, Joe are you having sticking points? Using straps? Mixed Grip? Are you squeezing your shoulder blades together? What kind of shoes are you wearing?[/quote]

My DL has been moving up pretty steadily. I life with a mixed grip, no straps but I do use chalk on the heavier sets. Currently I lift in chucks because the gym nazi’s made me stop doing it barefooted. I 'try" to remember to squeeze my shoulders together but its one of the things I sometimes probably am not so good at.

[quote]punnyguy wrote:
There is no exact answer to how low the hips go because it depends on your leverages.

Until the experts chime in, here’s my .02: supposedly, “everybody” rounds a little during max effort deadlifts, the key is that the back remains stable and locked, i.e. not move around, in whatever position it rounds to. (if that makes any sense) Plus it’s perfectly fine to round in the thoracic area, just not good (usually) in the lumbar area.

Based on my limited understanding to date, the only “exact” cues for the DL is to pull back, not up, off the floor. (edit: need to be driving through your heels only off the floor) Then, once you’ve broken off the floor, your hips should be moving towards the bar at all times; everything else “depends”.

Would I be upsetting you further if I told you that short legs and arms plus a long torso means you should be a big squatter? ;-)[/quote]

ROFL, my squat sucks. I’m starting to think I just need to be better at keeping tight in my torso and that I’m not really rounding my back. I’m also going to work on my flexibility and see if that helps.

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Cant see the tutorial at work, Joe are you having sticking points? Using straps? Mixed Grip? Are you squeezing your shoulder blades together? What kind of shoes are you wearing?[/quote]

My DL has been moving up pretty steadily. I life with a mixed grip, no straps but I do use chalk on the heavier sets. Currently I lift in chucks because the gym nazi’s made me stop doing it barefooted. I 'try" to remember to squeeze my shoulders together but its one of the things I sometimes probably am not so good at.[/quote]

Do you read the elitefts website? Joe I have had a lot of back injuries, you have seen my log. I dropped down and switched to sumo to work on my form and from the ground strength. In the fall Im going back to conventional. One thing I learned, form, form, form, no matter what keep form. If I start to lose form I stop. It is a mental thing but will really do a lot when you start moving really heavy stuff.

One of the most valuable bits of guidance I got when I started deadlifting was to set up higher. This isn’t to say everyone should. It has more to do with paying attention to your own levers. Make minor adjustments to your set up and see what reduces the rounding. In my experience making a change that seems minor, for example setting up higher or lower can make a huge change.

tbh though, I don’t remember that you looked like you had a huge issue with it.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
One of the most valuable bits of guidance I got when I started deadlifting was to set up higher. This isn’t to say everyone should. It has more to do with paying attention to your own levers. Make minor adjustments to your set up and see what reduces the rounding. In my experience making a change that seems minor, for example setting up higher or lower can make a huge change.

tbh though, I don’t remember that you looked like you had a huge issue with it.[/quote]

I think maybe this is it. I think I might be dropping to low. I also could be being a dumbass about it and worrying over nothing.

Dinner tonight. Fried Chicken.

I want me some fried chicken…

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Dinner tonight. Fried Chicken.[/quote]

Grits, BBQ and fried chicken. Hard to get more southern than that. Good stuff.

+1 on the chalk. Without it the knurling shreds your calluses & if your palms sweat, good luck.

I make sure my chalkbag is in the backpack before I hit the gym. Even pitcher’s rosin works well too.

Great DLs by the way. Your gym seems like a dream setup (from the first video)

LOL my reply to this post was from a comment Joe Good made on pg 2. Whoops

[quote]jaybvee wrote:
+1 on the chalk. Without it the knurling shreds your calluses & if your palms sweat, good luck.

I make sure my chalkbag is in the backpack before I hit the gym. Even pitcher’s rosin works well too.

Great DLs by the way. Your gym seems like a dream setup (from the first video)

LOL my reply to this post was from a comment Joe Good made on pg 2. Whoops[/quote]

No worries, your post gave me the oppertunity to admire your icon. Wellcome to my half assed log.

Wave 2-Cycle 1-Week 4-Day 3

bench

5x100
5x120
5x145

3x10x190

T-bar Rows

10x150
10x160
10x175 (+ 5 rep PR)

V-bar Pulldowns

10x190
10x195
10x200 (+5lbs PR)

Ah, sweet clean deload. Makes you feel like you arent doing anything.

Wave 2-Cycle 1-Week 4-Day 4

Squats

5x100
5x120
5x150

3x10x190

24" Box Squats

10x165
10x175
10x185 (+5 rep Pr)

pr must be your middle name Joe. everytime I come to check you out seems like you have some new ones. Well done:) must be the fried chicken.

I’m finding it dangerous to read your log when I’m hungry. The pictures have me drooling like a starving dog watching someone eat steak. I never saw any problem with a rounded back during deadlifts in your videos. Just keep working hard.

[quote]nlmain wrote:
pr must be your middle name Joe. everytime I come to check you out seems like you have some new ones. Well done:) must be the fried chicken.[/quote]

I’m just getting luck a good bit lately.

[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
I’m finding it dangerous to read your log when I’m hungry. The pictures have me drooling like a starving dog watching someone eat steak. I never saw any problem with a rounded back during deadlifts in your videos. Just keep working hard. [/quote]

Thanks Carl, I’m probably just being an idiot about the rounding. I’ll keep an eye out for it and hope for the best.

Sat: Rack Pulls etc

Rack Pulls

5x135
5x185
3x225
1x275
1x315
1x365
1x405
1x445 (+10lbs PR)
1x365
1x315
5x275
5x225

BB Shrugs

10x225
10x245
10x265

Alt DB Curls

10x35
10x40

Good job on the Rack pulls looking good.

Nice rack pulls, Joe. Congrats on the PR!

And there is nothing lucky about your PRs. That is just just hard work.