I get what you’re saying in your subsequent quote, but it’s not totally relevant to the request. He’s asking for pictures comparing you to you (before and after using your proposed methods); not comparing you to himself.
I have no dog in this fight, but can’t help but drop my general observations:
I think pre-exhaust is more valuable as an activation or even injury prevention tool than as a direct hypertrophy vehicle
I love the belt squat
3x10 leg extensions into belt squats has to be volume-equated to each as a standalone to be fairly compared
you are incorrect. you would be correct if one were to do squats first. but leg extensions are not squats . you can definitely do them to complete true failure to where not even a negative is possible and then jump to belt squats
pre-exhaust serves to stimulate further growth in the muscles that don’t achieve failure in a compound exercise.
in a squat your glutes fail before your quads, i am saying this as someone who is quad dominant and my quads grow more than my glutes from squats.
im trying to explain to you what a pre-exhaust is- it isn’t an activation drill, people who think so fail to gain the benefits of it which are truly possible when the time betwen the pre-exhaust set and the compound set are as short as possible
the weakest link can be the back, the glutes, or the hamstrings. i don’t know which is why i asked. heck it could even be the rear delts or the wrists for all i know.
I have told this story a few times. When I began squatting I did so to increase the size of my thighs my quads. Knowing that narrow stance squats hit the quads more than the hips, I did narrow stance squats. At 6’ 0" and short waisted, I had long legs. My squat was a convoluted three step lift: Hips rise, followed by a good morning, and finally a lockout.
The only leg press we had in the 1970’s and much of the 1980’s was a plate loaded vertical leg press. If I wanted a reasonable amount of range of motion, it required that my thighs descended to the sides of my torso. So, my leg presses were a wider stance than my squats. I could move a lot of weight in the leg press, but it wasn’t until 1989, that I figured out that I try squatting at the same width as I did the leg press. It all took off from there. The movement that was three different lifts became one efficient bar path and the weight took off.
I did two different foot stances on the leg press: My one that I used all along and the ultra-wide stance that I got from Jeff King. My thighs changed drastically.
you missed the point and turned it into relativity of whoever is okay with whatever is whatever and nothing really matters as long as you enjoy what you doing.
nice, makes sense the taller you are the wider you have to squat to get the movement right. i am not sure it is the same for a belt squats as i’ve recently been doing closer stance belt squats. we are the same height and my torso is short as well.
Well no, because I swam from age 7 to 17, and my diet was shit so I was a runt. Once I started weight training though, I had a really easy time with any upper body pull work.
This feels pretty inefficient and dangerous to me regardless of your goal.
If you’re performance focused, then once you find the weak link in a compound movement, address it. I.e. if your triceps are always the failing point on bench press, bring up your triceps with floor press, board press, weighted dips, etc. This feels like a much more productive path rather than weakening other muscles to get them on par with your triceps, like doing a bunch of pec flies so your chest is fatigued sooner.
If you are strictly aesthetic focused, then once you find a weak link in a compound movement, only use that movement to target that muscle. I.e. if glutes fatigue first on squats, then maybe don’t use it as a staple quad exercise? Find the variation that hits your quads best. Maybe switch to front squats with heels elevated.
misunderstood the point. the weak link is not mine but of the exercise.
Like in a pulldown your biceps and rear delts fail before your lats. It doesn’t matter how much stronger you make your biceps and rear delts.
im sorry but my understanding of exercise is way above your head at this point. the foundational basics are being ignored here. IT DOESN"T MATTER WHO IS DOING THE SQUAT. IT IS NOT A WEAKNESS ON MY END. it is the exercise itself and the mechanics of it that dictate the weak links.
Oh jeeez. I mean…immediately to the self-aggrandizing and attacking my intelligence? At least wait a couple posts before resorting to shitposting.
So every exercise, regardless of the person’s training history, leverages, or style of execution inherently has the same weak link…got it! My fiance just started lifting a few months back and her weak link on front squats is actually her shoulders and upper back, because she hasn’t developed the strength or muscular endurance in her upper body to support the weight yet. I just called her to inform her that she’s delusional, because Bane2 in his superior wisdom informed me that all must have the same weak link on the squat…and it’s the glutes that must fail first!
It’s very obvious I must pale in comparison to you, because I have NEVER felt pulldowns in my biceps or rear delts…just the lats God, what an idiot I am.
No you sir are an idiot. The mechanics of the exercise dictate the weak link, any further weaknesses on your part are secondary and not of this discussion.
God, what an idiot I am.