I am unworthy of discussing further with you your highness. Good day and sorry for offending you with my ignorance of weightlifting. My fiance asked for your number btw. She was so impressed by your intelligence she threatened to leave me…and honestly, I’m ok with it. Because you are so great. How does that sound?
you have time to be snarky i guess you aren’t getting laid. why don’t you go spend some time with your fiance or is it a dead bedroom situation?
One final question, since I have so much to learn from you. What is the universal weak link on bench press?
Once again, you nailed it. Can you come over and take care of her tonight? I just can’t live up to your manliness.
P.S. What is the weak link in bedroom hip thrusts?
The bench press is a horrible exercise, but if i have to answer you, your triceps fail before your pecs. So you pre-exhaust the pectorals with flys and then use the fresh triceps to push your pectorals beyond failure until your triceps finally fail and the set is complete.
A better combination would be chest fly->dips
and then skull crushers to grow the longhead of the triceps which otherwise will not be stimulated much with dips. when in doubt-more triceps… because triceps don’t really over train.
Now this is a prime opportunity to follow a powerlifter’s lead. Get power pants that give you hip support and remove the weak link. If a single ply isn’t good enough, go double ply, or even triple ply.
IMO, never do pre-exhaust anything. I suppose you would say that my ignorance blew the opportunity for me to be ten pounds heavier in contest shape.
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i don’t know.
the effectiveness of pre-exhaust implemented correctly has shown in lower body
So im only suggesting it for lower body.
For the upper body i suggest negative only.
hip belt squats accomplish the same thing and the movement feels more effective the higher the platform is so you can go below a2g and the way my setup is i can just chin myself out if i get stuck
Well shit son! I gotta alert CT and tell him he’s an idiot too. Fuck, he’s overcomplicating it. The only weak link on bench is triceps, for everyone, all the time. I copy/paste some relevant stuff, because I know you’re too smart to read a whole article from someone beneath you like CT.
Weak Muscles: Some Examples
Here’s an example of the possible weakest link in the main three power lifts. Knowing which muscle is holding you back will allow you to correct that weakness and blast through your sticking point.
Bench Press
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Sticking point close to the chest:
Most probable weak muscle: pectorals
Another possible weakness: anterior deltoids
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Sticking point mid-way (elbows at 90 degrees):
Most probable weak muscle: anterior deltoids
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Sticking point during the last portion of the press (past 90 degrees):
Most probable weak muscle: triceps
Deadlift
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Sticking point in the first portion of the lift (floor to below knees):
Most probable weak muscle: quadriceps
Could also be: tight psoas
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Sticking point around the knees:
Most probable weak muscle group: lower back muscles
Another possible weakness: rhomboids
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Sticking point in the last portion of the pull (from mid-thigh to lockout):
Most probable weak muscle: glutes
Another possible weakness: hamstrings
Squat (regular squat, not a competitive powerlifting squat)
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Sticking point in the first portion of the lifting motion:
Most probable weak muscle: glutes
Another possible weakness: hamstrings
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Sticking point mid-way (knees at 90 degrees):
Most probable weak muscle: quadriceps
Another possible weakness: glutes
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Sticking point in the last portion of the lift (very rare):
Most probable weak muscle: quadriceps
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Maybe you can help me find my sticking point when I was powerlifting in the 220lb class. This is before I added about 15 to 20lbs of lean weight for my best bodybuilding stage weight.
My deadlift style was traditional with legs closer to straight than bent.
When I trained the deadlift I could not budge 600lbs off the floor. Yet in the meet I never missed 600lbs. In a meet when I missed a weight it stuck just above my knees. Training in the gym, if it came off the ground, I could complete the lift. I never trained another rep once the rep “cracked” my back out of an arch. I would finish that rep and stop.
In the gym my sticking point was the ground.
In a meet my sticking point was just above my knees.
Any thoughts?
I’d like to take a crack on this (and how you discovered your best squat) for two reasons:
- Salvage value from this thread
- It amuses me when, like an old Simpsons episode, what these turn into is different and better than how they started
Anyway, my guess would be (if we’re just taking that list at face value, which is likely an oversimplification as we get down to the individual and certainly is to someone of your strength and development): low back.
My thinking is, training is just different. You don’t take risks, you’re “tighter,” and it’s part of your daily world. As you even mentioned, once you started to lose your arch, you were done in the gym.
In competition, it’s different. You’ve got some adrenaline going, you’re going to take more risks, and you’re setting conditions to perform better. You have the “oomph” to start driving through the “scary” zone you would have dropped in the gym, but then you find a true failure point (right at the low back indicator from the list) that really is at your capacity.
What do you think?
@Bane2, this is not an attack, but maybe just a clarification: these types of threads happen with some frequency, and I think it’s because of incongruent expectations. Most of us thought you wanted our advice, because you opened with a question. It appears, now, you believe you already have the right answer and really wanted more to teach or, perhaps, discuss nuances with a group that agreed with your concept.
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Regarding hamstrings, I’ve found leg curls (w/o going to failure) are a great warm up for deadlifts. When I do pullups before deads, I can’t go as heavy.
no . my question remains unanswered.
Yes because the hamstrings aid through easier part of the lift , in a deadlift the breaking off of the ground is the most difficult part and requires a strong back so doing pullups will handicap you.
You are projecting . you want to teach im here asking and shutting down the wrong understandings of pre-exhaust. You sir are an idiot.
Beyond failure isn’t a thing… pre-exhaust is also overrated… and your triceps suggestion is pure bunk. You are trolling, no ?
you’re wrong.
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to continuing my education process, and appreciate your clear mandate to selflessly contribute. Perhaps you’d be so kind as to share the accomplishments of yourself or your athletes?
I have to, likely out of idiocy, point out these are diametrically opposed
I know Mike Mentzer said that everyone is the same, and everyone should train the same, and everyone should do the same lifts because they have the same weaknesses. Did Arthur Jones say that too?
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Ackchually…