Did your physique look completely different as a swimmer? Been doing MMA for almost 20 years now and some muscle groups simply took on a different look.
Those surreptitious underwater one-armed pullups off the lane rope doing the backstroke works wonders.
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Whoa!
Cheating in swimming. Who knew?
It was natural to arch your back doing the bent arm barbell pullover when using a typical bench in the weight room. One feature I liked was that I didnāt need a spotter to hand me the bar. Those pictured āpulloverā benches looked too high to reach the bar if it was on the floor.
When we were doing bent arm barbell we were using as much weight as we could do 10 reps, so we needed to be in position when we picked up the barbell. For better range of motion we would use 25lb plates.
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Just asking generally- what muscle fails first on the deadlift? and what muscle fails last?
this is to figure out the pre exhaust method for deadlift day.
So, you still feel that pre-exhausting a muscle just prior to preforming a compound exercise is a good strategy for muscle growth?
works great for leg extension into belt squats.
for the people who argue against it are either speaking from trying upper body movements with it or they implemented it incorrectly such as not going immediately into the compound: allowing too much recovery from the pre exhaust. It has to be 3-2 seconds as close to 3-2 seconds as you can.
Let me propose this which would be more effective for growth of the quads-
A: 20 rep leg extensions max effort to failure then directly doing belt squats which you fail at 10 reps
B: 10 reps of belt squat at an heavier load.
This is not a good comparison. This has nothing to do with pre-exhausting, you are doing much more work in A.
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If you are saying that I must begin the squat in 3 seconds or less after the last leg extension rep, I couldnāt do much more than get off the leg extension machine and taken a single step and 3 seconds would have elapsed. How far apart are the leg extension machine and the belt squat station?
After doing a high-rep leg extension to failure, I can barely move, let alone go directly to squatting to failure
Therefore, the reason why Jones created the double machines
my leg extension machine is directly next to my belt squat platform. and yes the rush factor is important, what you are saying is a compliance issue that even the people at nautilus had to deal with athletes not being compliant except for casey viator.
As I see it there is a conveyance compliance limit that is more important than a human compliance concern. You can fix the human compliance issue. Required conveyance is more difficult.
Have you had anyone time you with a stopwatch from the last rep on the leg extension machine until you start the first rep on the belt squat machine? I like empirical variable data.
would you be sold if i sent you a video recording of me performing the leg extensions and moving to belt squats. Anyone can film themselves using a phone on a stack of weights or a chair and thatāll let them know the pace at which they go from station to station.
A video can be timed. I just have heard too many times how much time between sets, when it is short, and that time be next to impossible to accomplish. Some peopleās notion of elapsed time is far removed from the actual time.
āSoldā is an entirely different story. Do you have some ābeforeā and āafterā pics? And that coupled with my experiences. Also, I have never had the opportunity to do belt squats, though I would have liked to have seen the difference without the muscles in the back involved in doing the squat. I did learn to love the barbell squat with heavy weight once I figured out the form best suited for my structure.
How did you determine this? I know it sounds stupid, but once my squat is set up, I jump and use that as foot placement. Itās usually narrow. The leg press is where Iāll change stances.
And just throwing this out there, because itās kind of related to pre-exhaustion, after leg day (for instance) Iāll do a 100 reps of whatever muscle Iām doing next. The soreness helps the MMC. And maybe the pwo food will better prep it.
Alright, I will banish myself back to the bro-science thread.
A belt squat feels most natural. In-fact my setup is so that i have a barbell setup at neck height of the squat rack so that i chin myself out of the bell curve sticking point of the squat therefor i am using a weight that sufficiently taxes my legs at the top and at the bottom, with aid from my biceps and lats during the middle most difficult part.
ābefore and after picsā
When two or more individuals are compared, then many other factors become involvedā¦the
length of limbs, and thus the leverage advantages or disadvantagesā¦the attachment points of
muscles, again a leverage factorā¦variations in neurological efficiencyā¦differences in
skillā¦the ratios of muscular tissue to fatty tissue. And many other factors.
Thus, in factā¦it is almost literally impossible to accurately compare the actual strength of two
or more individuals.
But, for the purposes of exercise it is not necessary to make such comparisons. All that is
required is the ability to measure an individualās momentary level of strength in order to
compare it to his strength at another point in time.
The simple fact that Bill can bench-press 300 pounds while George can handle only 150 pounds
in the same lift tells us nothing of valueā¦and it certainly does NOT tell us that Bill is ātwice as
strongā as George.
āAble to bench-press twice as muchāā¦certainly; but twice as strong? Not necessarily.
- Arthur Jones
I donāt care how close the machines are to each other.
You are not doing ā20 rep leg extensions max effort to failure then directly doing belt squats which you fail at 10 repsā after 2-3 seconds.
Unless you have a much different idea of what āmax effort to failureā is.
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Then how can anyone answer your original question, āWhat fails first in the deadlift?ā
That depends on your weakest link.