http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/training-logs.asp?qid=86265&tid=79
…if you don’t want to get hyUUUUUge
awesome.
jesuschristo look at his neck
I can’t find it…
www.intensemuscle.com/15169-lhs-powerbuilding-routine.html
Figured the guys interested in his training approach at the time might enjoy the read…
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).
[quote]Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).[/quote]
Indeed. Charles Poliquin says you cant get big training three times a week…so it HAS to be true.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).
Indeed. Charles Poliquin says you cant get big training three times a week…so it HAS to be true.[/quote]
THANK YOU. Everytime I see his “strength” article on the homepage, I die a little inside.
[quote]Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).[/quote]
You kind of lost me on this one…
He is using a 3-way over 3 days a week… Considering his volume /work set preferences, I don’t see how he could train 4 days a week…
Recovery is a big part of the game after all.
Sorry if your post was supposed to be sarcastic, guess I didn’t get it.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
jesuschristo look at his neck[/quote]
Started training it as people sniggered at him for having big ears
-don’t think they’d tease him any more, about anything…ever
I wish my face melted into my neck.
d00d is hy000g.
It’s interesting that the powerlifting approach to bodybuilding isn’t used more. Powerlifters are massive and look like they would have an outstanding base for bodybuilding. Yes, I’m aware that guys like Coleman, Arnold and other have done it before. Grimek was an Olympic lifter. But if one were to build a structured bodybuilding ‘school’ of sorts and started all beginners through intermediate (even beyond) with strictly powerlifting methods, it would be interesting how many champions, or at least mass monsters, would be produced. Just a thought.
I agree. I think the thing with bodybuilding is though that people are after some sort of symmetry and proportion in addition to sheer size. That’s the big problem with the PL approach for them–most PLers could give a rats ass about symmetry as long as their total goes up.
But I agree. You start training to get big and strong, you can easily switch to bring up lagging bodyparts and polish the proportions later.
[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
It’s interesting that the powerlifting approach to bodybuilding isn’t used more. Powerlifters are massive and look like they would have an outstanding base for bodybuilding.
Yes, I’m aware that guys like Coleman, Arnold and other have done it before. Grimek was an Olympic lifter. But if one were to build a structured bodybuilding ‘school’ of sorts and started all beginners through intermediate (even beyond) with strictly powerlifting methods, it would be interesting how many champions, or at least mass monsters, would be produced. Just a thought.[/quote]
I’d have to say that pretty much every bodybuilder has gotten his start with powerlifting moves. Gotta realize that a vast majority of them got into weightlifting via sports such as football and changed to something like bodybuilding after they saw how their body responded to weight lifting.
Shawn Ray, I’d have to say, is a great example of that. Very consistent physique but was still built using powerful compound moves. It’s just that he wasn’t pushing the upper echeleon of weight/mass so people tend to over look the fact that he got built up via powerlifitng moves.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).
You kind of lost me on this one…
He is using a 3-way over 3 days a week… Considering his volume /work set preferences, I don’t see how he could train 4 days a week…
Recovery is a big part of the game after all.
Sorry if your post was supposed to be sarcastic, guess I didn’t get it.
[/quote]
No I wasn’t being sarcastic. And my comment had nothing to do with Poliquin.
I heard from a lot of bigger lifters (also on this site) that most of the time people have gotten to that kind of size by training at least 4 times a week.
[quote]Der Candy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).
You kind of lost me on this one…
He is using a 3-way over 3 days a week… Considering his volume /work set preferences, I don’t see how he could train 4 days a week…
Recovery is a big part of the game after all.
Sorry if your post was supposed to be sarcastic, guess I didn’t get it.
No I wasn’t being sarcastic. And my comment had nothing to do with Poliquin.
I heard from a lot of bigger lifters (also on this site) that most of the time people have gotten to that kind of size by training at least 4 times a week. [/quote]
The idea that you HAVE to train 4-7 times per week in order to get big is something I have yet to figure out. What about the people putting on size using Wendler’s program? What about all of those 5x5 guys? What about Defranco’s program? What about Dante’s guys who are not only getting big, but getting big as FUCK in very short periods of time?
Dont throw me shit about enhanced trainees being able to do things nattys cant, there are naturals getting big on all of these programs.
Just because training 3x a week doesnt fit into or work with (insert author/coach/guru)'s system doesnt mean it wont work.
maybe the link changes but it’s not a training article anymore…it’s a diet thing. made me hungry though…
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
I am surprised he got to that size training only 3 times a week (ok maybe he trained more often).
You kind of lost me on this one…
He is using a 3-way over 3 days a week… Considering his volume /work set preferences, I don’t see how he could train 4 days a week…
Recovery is a big part of the game after all.
Sorry if your post was supposed to be sarcastic, guess I didn’t get it.
No I wasn’t being sarcastic. And my comment had nothing to do with Poliquin.
I heard from a lot of bigger lifters (also on this site) that most of the time people have gotten to that kind of size by training at least 4 times a week.
The idea that you HAVE to train 4-7 times per week in order to get big is something I have yet to figure out. What about the people putting on size using Wendler’s program? What about all of those 5x5 guys? What about Defranco’s program? What about Dante’s guys who are not only getting big, but getting big as FUCK in very short periods of time?
Dont throw me shit about enhanced trainees being able to do things nattys cant, there are naturals getting big on all of these programs.
Just because training 3x a week doesnt fit into or work with (insert author/coach/guru)'s system doesnt mean it wont work.[/quote]
Let alone 20 rep Squats, or any other abbreviated style of training.
Stuart McRobert would be turning over in his grave if he was dead.
[quote]B rocK wrote:
maybe the link changes but it’s not a training article anymore…it’s a diet thing. made me hungry though…[/quote]
The elitefts link is a diet thing.
I posted his training program (as he wrote it down himself in a sticky over at IM) later in the thread.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
The idea that you HAVE to train 4-7 times per week in order to get big is something I have yet to figure out. What about the people putting on size using Wendler’s program? What about all of those 5x5 guys? What about Defranco’s program? What about Dante’s guys who are not only getting big, but getting big as FUCK in very short periods of time?[/quote]
When you have not yet learnt that rest is a very vital part of getting bigger and stronger, it is easy to make erroneous rationalizations that more volume implies more growth. I guess you are lucky if you happened to find the correct information just as you started training. I did not. Other erroneous rationalizations that are easy to assume true, are:
“I don’t need to train intense, I’ll just do another exercise and a couple more sets.”
“I don’t have to eat enough, and healthy. I’ll just work out harder and more often.”
“I saw Jay Cutler do this the day before a contest, so I’m sure it will work if I work out this way as well.”
etc.
If you ask me today, this guys training program seems like it has a higher work load than I would handle. If you asked me 1 year ago, this program would be “nothing”.