Power Snatch vs. Bench for Athletes

[quote]Hanley wrote:
You should talk to TYPE2B, you guys would get on great.[/quote]

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
Y’all remember Balbos right??[/quote]

Thanks a lot for another quality post.Each of this 5080+ posts were a pure gold! :slight_smile:

Stay strong!

[quote]GMH454 wrote:
TYPE2B wrote:
BALBO wrote:
1.If you are an athlete and your performance is more important than your lifting numbers,what is your Power Snatch to Bench Press ratio? Do you snatch more than you benchpress or vice versa?

2.Do you spend more time & effort performing snatch or benchpressing?

3.If atlete A power snatch 200 lbs. and benches 150 lbs. and atlete B power snatch 150 lb. and benches 300 lbs.,which one is sprinting faster,jumping higher or throwing harder?

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  1. It really is difficult to have a snatch so efficient to the point where you actually snatch more than you bench press. I believe Reza had a 460+ pound snatch, and his bench press is 480+ pounds… Consider the years he spent specializing with the olympic lifts, and yet, hasn’t had a snatch that is bigger than his bench press goes to show how difficult it really is to raise your snatch to the point where it exceeds your bench press.

  2. Neither. I front squat alot.

  3. ATHLETE A will be a more explosive athlete overall. The power snatch involves the triple extension in your lower body, which is important with TONS of sports.

  4. (random stuff that i just wanna say) All that really matters in the end is how much you can squat…

Specificity of training.

Look up hammer throwing…I doubt Sedykh could bench more than a hundred kilos. Power cleaned 160 (although seldom trained power clean). Koji Murofushi power snatched 1371/2 and again I guarantee he cannot bench 120kg.

If you want a snatch bigger than your bench do snatches and no pressing moves…works every time…

and as for ā€œall that …how much you squat.ā€ Hal Connolly won the 56 hammer, and in the 60s squatted over 300kgs, both Sedekh and Murofushi have best squats of 245 and 240 respectively throw around 15m farther.

Hal was strong but as Sedykh always says " not strong in weight room - strong in hammer

and general advice look up Anatoly Bondarchuck and his view of congruate training - block periodisation - right now almost all world class throwers are doing some version of it…

and while on that topic look up Udo Beyer, give you another perspective on ā€œolympic lifters are the strongestā€¦ā€

and I enjoy your stuff -
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Specificity of training for sprinting and jumping is high power production.It includes power snatch.Power snatch is useful tool for that purpose.
Building a big power snatch compared to your body weight will make your sprint times better and your jumps bigger & higher.
Of course,you should have sprint and jump training as primary training and weight room training to supplement it.

Stay strong!

345 lb. Power Snatch

345 lb. Close-grip Bench Press

One arm-speed snatch 100 lb. dumbell

Power snatch is the King!!!

Fuck the bench press! Cut your bench to pieces and use it like firewood for barbacue!
Stand up and lift some weight from ground above your head!

But thats just my opinion!

Stay strong!

Some great snatching videos

Great inspiration! :slight_smile:

Look at this video

I respect these guys.If you are bench press fanatic and bench press is your thing…cool! Stick to that! Do your thing! But for athletes in traditional sports who need to be lower-body dominant,this is not way to go.
They should use bench press sparingly and focus efforts into power snatch.There is only a limited amount of energy,concentation,recuperative ability in athletes bodies.They should do far more snatching and less benching then they are doing right now.

Stay strong!

Look at this

48 years old

100 kg easy power snatch

Power snatch 100 kg @ 73 kg bw

Snatch 115 kg at 72 kg bw …same guy …great power!!!

Snatch training

Better to substitute this

with this

Kara Bohigian Standing Military Press - YouTube (RESPECT for the lady in the video)

or better this

for pressing power

The real,functional and athletic pressing power

World snatch record

Carry over

Bolbo I have a feeling nobody cares this.

[quote]BALBO wrote:
The real,functional and athletic pressing power

2x140kg - YouTube [/quote]

What sport do you have to press stuff over head?

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[quote]chrisarmes wrote:
is it too early to call Tubesteak boogie?[/quote]

Is it weird I’m a member here over 4 years and completely missed the thread the reference came from??

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[quote]BALBO wrote:
Speed snatch

Bench workout

The point of the thread is should athletes do more of the first [/quote]

Depends on the athlete. Lots of sprinters don’t use any olympic lifts, but do bench and still run insane times.

do what you want, SFW, WS4SB3.