MaximusB - I have never heard of that before, however I do hear quite a bit of random things like that from the bodybuilding scene. They like to have crazy rules and tips which, more often than not, are pure nonsense. As far as switching up your green veggie, if you’re only having broccoli it would probably be a good idea to include a larger variety of green veggies in your diet (or more veggies in general).
The methylator is l-5-methyltetrahydrofolate, which is a folate that is identical to the natural folate, and is body-ready. You can go here (Gregg Marsh : Do You Pass the Asparagus Test?) to read more about it [Gregg Marsh is a fellow PICP Coach and BioSig practitioner). Supplementing with a methylator (either poliquin’s product called Methylator Plus 3.0 or another l-5-methytetrahydrofolate) simply skips the step that your body doesn’t do properly if you don’t methylate (urine smells).
Therefore, if your urine smells after asparagus, you do not methylate properly and should supplement with a methylator.
You’re at least doing it partially right, and that is drinking your coffee black. Just make a switch from the instant coffee to organic and you’ll be golden. Coffee is one of the most sprayed crops in the world, hence the desire for organic (for the record, butter and strawberries should also be organic).
Is adding plain table sugar to a coffee really so horrible if all other aspects of your diet are in check? Don’t get me wrong, I am not talking about some Starbucks edifice that required building inspectors due to it’s massive structure of cream, milk, topppings, etc that needs 2 hands to lift, but plain black coffee with a little sugar.
Also, I am currently on Insulinomics + Fenuplex + Fish oil for my love handle situation, working rather well. I used a low carb diet of only green veggies, although my hunger is out of control. I upped the protein to see if that helps, but having been a former buffet killer is not helping me.
So you’re on a low carb diet, taking insulin sensitizing supplements, recognizing that you are doing so to lower your carb sites, and asking if you can have sugar? Answer seems pretty obvious to me. If you need to add a little flavour, add some cinnamon (plain cinnamon, not cinnamon sugar).
Eating when you are hungry, assuming you’re eating properly, will help you lose bodyfat. If your goal is to make a dramatic body composition change, then you will need to suffer a little. Meals will most likely be meat and nuts (breakfast), meat and veggies (other meals), and if you’ve been doing that for a while, some low GI carbs either postworkout or with your last meal of the day might be a good idea. The problem with giving advice via internet is that I do not get a chance to do your BioSig, see how you train and how hard, etc. There are many, many factors to consider.
The whole thing about asparagus confuses me. Sometimes I have that asparagus pee, and sometimes not. Is there a food source that can act as a methylator (sp)?
[quote]dianab wrote:
The whole thing about asparagus confuses me. Sometimes I have that asparagus pee, and sometimes not. Is there a food source that can act as a methylator (sp)?[/quote]
Poor methylation is caused by a genetic issue that limits the bodies ability to efficiently produce an enzyme responsible for converting folic acid into a usable form within the body (l-5-methyltetrahydrofolate).
So considering this, the only whole food source of l-5-methyltetrahydrofolate is foods containing folic acid such as green leafy vegetables. The only issue being if you don’t have the required enzyme to break down the folic acid from dietary sources into the usable form you will never experience the health benefits of folic acid and its metabolically active form l-5-methyltetrahydrofolate required for methylation.
What a methylator supplement does is essentially provides you with l-5-methyltetrahydrofolate and skips the steps your body is normally required to do to get from dietary folic acid to the metabolically active folate.
So through my logic I don’t see there being a food source for the methylator.
But then again I could be wrong! 1llusion will know far better than me regarding this subject!
My pee always smells fackin’ terrible after eating asparagus. I realize it’s a methylation problem, but I started taking a top notch multi-vitamin (Life Extension) which has 400mcg B9/Folate (from Citrus limon extract peel) and 300mcg B12/cyanocobalamin, and I noticed the smell was much less distinct… still there, but much less than before. I’ve been taking the multivitamin for awhile now so I should try eating some asparagus to test it out again.
So my third visit has yielded some cool results. In 2 weeks i’ve lost 1.1% body fat and gained ~2lbs of lean mass in the last 2 weeks. Abs are starting to come through now, so feeling good about it.
As expected, supplement regime has now increased slightly. PWO glutamine, glycine and greens supp for reduction in cortisol. I’m also on a digestive enzyme and fish oil as standard anyway.
Also a carb up in the evening once every 5 days (brown rice or sweet potato only) plus berries.
Quads and Hams are down decently and I haven’t even started the estrogen detox yet (got the supps today, so ill start that tomorrow), this is probably from switching to organic spinach or something like that.
Triceps were down a bit and so were umbilical, but the love handle and pec were up a little (0.4/0.5), face measurements, calf, subscap etc… were all pretty much identical or up/down by insignificant amounts.
Body weight was down 1 lbs so im not really sure what the issue is, don’t know how much the body fat% changed yet as i haven’t seen the numbers in to the software yet, but honestly i would be happy with any decrease, expectations are not very high this time around.
I think im on the verge of over-reaching/ with my lifting sense i have been pushing hard for almost 2 months straight. Feeling significantly weaker then normal, sleep schedule has changed a lot as well as im taking a spring class and getting up really early in the morning. so ill still train everyday this week, but im gonna lower the volume and intensity for the next 7 days, do a bit of a de-load week and try to get accustomed to getting up a lot earlier in the morning.
like I said, ill start the estrogen detox tomorrow so hopefully that will get my results accelerated again.
Interesting tork. Thanks for the honest update. Sorry to hear about minor improvements not being exactly what you expected and wanted. Did your pract have anything to say? (Ill respond more later)
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Interesting tork. Thanks for the honest update. Sorry to hear about minor improvements not being exactly what you expected and wanted. Did your pract have anything to say? (Ill respond more later)[/quote]
Well I told him that I was feeling really tired from training and from the altered sleep schedule and he expects that after the de-load week and getting used to the new sleep times that everything should bounce back, and that if it didnt then we would try some other things.
I gave him another food log and he suggested adding in coconut oil (which I bought today) as well as rotating the brand of fish-oil more often. Except for that he said it looked pretty solid and the only other recommendation would be to rotate my proteins a bit more.
In other news, i found a great organic market where i got the coconut oil, i found organic EVOO for the exact same price as the non-organic from the super-market as well as shampoos free of phalates and tones of other awesome stuff like different brands of fish oil etc…
needless to say ill be going back!
Good deal man. Sounds about right. Maybe you drained all the success of what you have been doing thus far and now need to make some changes in order to produce new results. My estro detox is working pretty well, a little too well actually, noticed some negative side effects of low E so I dropped CDG. Its been some days for you too since you started this so lack of sleep and long training sessions cant cause retention of bodyfat and or gain. Sounds like there are going to be some good changes though.
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Good deal man. Sounds about right. Maybe you drained all the success of what you have been doing thus far and now need to make some changes in order to produce new results. My estro detox is working pretty well, a little too well actually, noticed some negative side effects of low E so I dropped CDG. Its been some days for you too since you started this so lack of sleep and long training sessions cant cause retention of bodyfat and or gain. Sounds like there are going to be some good changes though. [/quote]
what kind of symptoms are you talking about with having E to low? Sore joints? low sex-drive?
Tork - I would definitely agree here, as sleep is one of the most important, yet underrated factors in body comp. Once you adjust to the new routine, it’ll be fine. Typically the umbilical reading would be higher if you were overtrained. I have actually used the umbilical to guage how the client is responding to the volume changes in their program.
[quote]1llusion wrote:
Tork - I would definitely agree here, as sleep is one of the most important, yet underrated factors in body comp. Once you adjust to the new routine, it’ll be fine. Typically the umbilical reading would be higher if you were overtrained. I have actually used the umbilical to guage how the client is responding to the volume changes in their program.[/quote]
thanks for the info, i did train today, i went quite light (70%-82.5% of max) and although the weight felt a lot heavier then normal i was executing the technique very well and felt REALLY fast. Ill still keep it easy this week to give my body a chance to recover and get used to the sleep schedule. Ill probably do a bit of swimming tomorrow, lift again Thursday, sprint Friday, lift again on Saturday, rest Sunday and then hopefully ill feel ready to push my hardest again on Monday.
Note that the umbilical can be changed with volume, not intensity (% of max). I’d stick with your same intensity, but do 40% fewer sets. That’s the typical deload week for my clients.
Both you guys are making sense. Im surprised that Im not holding any fat there really. In fact 8pack started to shine through the other morning but I was dehydrated. Im spending way longer in the gym than I want to and every day its getting harder. I know with an increase release of Cortisol it can blunt/alter how the body deals with insulin. This is whats causing me(I believe) to not be dropping more and more bodyfat.
I think a good night of some solid ass sleep will do you well. Are you taking anything for sleep (I think youve mentioned magnesium). I stopped with mine but my sleep is super freaking weird anyways.
I dont think my joints got sore. Pract put me on Gemmotherapy for a host a reasons but when I went to buy some last night I was doing some more reading on them and the one I take in the morning has these huge Antiinflammation properties and effects. But yeah, sex drive crashed. Everything works fine just no desire to use it. I stopped with the CDG for 2 days now and all night/morning blood has been flowing, if you catch my drift. I may just pop CDG once in a while and see how that goes, spread the dose. I would love to do hormone blood work right about now.
I know a place back home that does it for like $70. Ill probably look into that when I get back. My pec fat has dropped significantly but not fully. I had a fat line running from the nipple into the lat/arm pit. Lat/arm pit has dissolved, almost overnight, small amount of puffyness/water remains behind the nipple it self, dont know how long that will take to shrink but its been years. Low back fat as melted, my back is my best feature, no idea why or how, but I got the Xmas tree going now.
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Both you guys are making sense. Im surprised that Im not holding any fat there really. In fact 8pack started to shine through the other morning but I was dehydrated. Im spending way longer in the gym than I want to and every day its getting harder. I know with an increase release of Cortisol it can blunt/alter how the body deals with insulin. This is whats causing me(I believe) to not be dropping more and more bodyfat.
I think a good night of some solid ass sleep will do you well. Are you taking anything for sleep (I think youve mentioned magnesium). I stopped with mine but my sleep is super freaking weird anyways.
I dont think my joints got sore. Pract put me on Gemmotherapy for a host a reasons but when I went to buy some last night I was doing some more reading on them and the one I take in the morning has these huge Antiinflammation properties and effects. But yeah, sex drive crashed. Everything works fine just no desire to use it. I stopped with the CDG for 2 days now and all night/morning blood has been flowing, if you catch my drift. I may just pop CDG once in a while and see how that goes, spread the dose. I would love to do hormone blood work right about now.
I know a place back home that does it for like $70. Ill probably look into that when I get back. My pec fat has dropped significantly but not fully. I had a fat line running from the nipple into the lat/arm pit. Lat/arm pit has dissolved, almost overnight, small amount of puffyness/water remains behind the nipple it self, dont know how long that will take to shrink but its been years. Low back fat as melted, my back is my best feature, no idea why or how, but I got the Xmas tree going now.
Tork do you feel like your gaining any muscle?[/quote]
well from my first bio-sig to now i have gained 9.2lbs lean mass and lost 7.2lbs lean mass, but pretty much zero change at the last measurements. i have only been on the estro-detox for 2 days but my ass seems a little smaller just from the way my pants fit, but who knows.
swam pretty hard yesterday but it felt really good, decent workout, but relaxing at the same time, went to the sauna afterwards to. Lifted today and although it was still light weight i had a lot more mental energy the I did on Monday and kept a really quick pace through out.
I started taking the coconut oil and i love the stuff, seems to give me more energy, tastes great and i have even started using it on my dry/chapped hands that i get from using chalk all the time, probably the best stuff i have ever used to keep my hands healthy. My skin on my whole body also seems healthier as well.