BioSignature Tomorrow

Bigger Stronger Leaner Competitive Bodybuilding
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All this time I didn’t realize that Coach Poliquin’s Toronto office is around the corner from where I work downtown in the financial sector…

Suffice to say, I will be taking advantage of his services. I have an appointment tomorrow @ noon for my first appointment. Apparently this takes about an hour, and I have been told to bring my workout gear. This leads me to believe there is more than just skin fold measurements @ the first visit.

Anyway, I am at the beginning of my bodybuilding journey, not in the middle or beyond like a good portion of the T-Nation membership, but I figure there is no better way to measure progress - other than what I see in the mirror, of course.

I have a very strong feeling due to storage of fat entirely around my belly that cortisol will be the telling factor, but we’ll see.

Should be interesting, anyhow.

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Keep us posted.

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Awesome. Definitely keep us posted with this thread.

Luck you are getting it done early, and you can use it as a road map to better progress.

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I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?

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during business hours i certainly am!

otherwise i hail from burlington

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[quote]Digity wrote:
I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?[/quote]

your avatar is cruel

throwing a dog from a car window

I hope the guy gets thrown in front of a car

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Digity wrote:
I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?

your avatar is cruel

throwing a dog from a car window

I hope the guy gets thrown in front of a car[/quote]

Looks to me like the little bugger jumped all by himself.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Digity wrote:
I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?

your avatar is cruel

throwing a dog from a car window

I hope the guy gets thrown in front of a car[/quote]

He jumped, silly.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Digity wrote:
I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?

your avatar is cruel

throwing a dog from a car window

I hope the guy gets thrown in front of a car

He jumped, silly. [/quote]

no he didn’t.

what they just “HAPPENED” to be filming when the dog jumped?

my apologies OP

/hijack

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No, really. He jumped. They were filming the dog chasing the car, obviously.

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[quote]Defekt wrote:
No, really. He jumped. [/quote]

Everyone I work with said he jumped too. I hate myself for laughing but that’s all you can do with a jumper.

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Just got back from Poliquin Performance.

For starters, the gym they have there is unlike anything I’ve ever seen at the GoodLife where I currently train. Different thicknesses in bars for grip strength, seems obvious, but I’ve never seen them at any retail gym. Platemates, sleds, chains, you name it - the place is devoid of a single machine. It’s awesome.

My bodyfat ended up being 19.2%.

Surprisingly, cortisol wasn’t the number one issue - it was number 2. Low testosterone was number 1. Perhaps a result of carrying too much fat all these years, I dont know.

They are in the midst of constructing a program (exercise/diet/supp) and I’m going from there. I’m to start on something similar to what I’ve been doing, they like to call it a caveman diet. Nothing surprising there.

I am considering training there.

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[quote]NeelyDan wrote:

My bodyfat ended up being 19.2%.

Surprisingly, cortisol wasn’t the number one issue - it was number 2. Low testosterone was number 1. Perhaps a result of carrying too much fat all these years, I dont know.

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High cortisol and low androgens go hand-in-hand. They are both made from the same raw material (pregnenolone). When you are overproducing one (cortisol) you are underproducing the other.

Plus, if you add up other factors that can contribute to lowered testosterone, this is not surprising at all.

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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

High cortisol and low androgens go hand-in-hand. They are both made from the same raw material (pregnenolone). When you are overproducing one (cortisol) you are underproducing the other.

Plus, if you add up other factors that can contribute to lowered testosterone, this is not surprising at all.[/quote]

Clance, the guy who did the analysis, said the same thing. I would be lying if I said I was shocked. A stressful job and personal life over the last ten years has taken its toll.

The good news is these measurements are able to be manipulated in my favour.

You know, it’s funny - I never made any real gains in 4 years of training unedcuated and without discipline/structure - once I got on a proper routine that was geared towards actual gains (in my case a 5x5 routine mostly), I put 100 pounds on my bench, 100 pounds on my DL, and 100 pounds on my squat.

I’m hoping with the same kind of structure and discipline in the remaining areas I’ll be able to make even bigger leaps in progress.

I’m excited.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Defekt wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Digity wrote:
I’m from the T-Dot too…you’re a Bay Street roller?

your avatar is cruel

throwing a dog from a car window

I hope the guy gets thrown in front of a car

He jumped, silly.

no he didn’t.

what they just “HAPPENED” to be filming when the dog jumped?

my apologies OP

/hijack

[/quote]

He jumped. If you look at it closely you can tell the dog leans back and then jumps forwards. Also, I heard the dog survived. :slight_smile:

People seem to have two reactions to that clip…they think it’s cruel or utterly hilarious. I’m in the latter camp.

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I did the BioSignature years ago out here in Arizona. By far the best seminar I have ever attended! So Much Information.

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[quote]Thad wrote:
I did the BioSignature years ago out here in Arizona. By far the best seminar I have ever attended! So Much Information.[/quote]

Can you get the actual fat test done in Arizona? I’m next door in Nevada and there is no biosig practitioner here.

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Good thread, keep updating your progress.

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I’m going to try not to make this post too long, though I tend to be wordy, and there is quite a bit of substance to it.

So to summarize my results from today’s BioSig:

19.2% bodyfat
High triceps skinfold reading indicating low testosterone levels
High abdomen skinfold reading indicating elevated cortisol
High subscap and supra-iliac reading indicating insulin resistance

Not shocking. I grew up on a 90% processed and crap diet until I was about 28. Here I am 4 years later cleaning up the mess.

The following is the supplement protocol the staff at Poliquin want to see me on:

Vitamin E - one cap in the morning

L-Tyrosine - 3 caps in the morning, 3 at noon

Fish oil - 15g per day, basically 3 caps per meal

Cardiosterol - 2 caps 3 times per day taken with fish oil

GLA - 2 caps 3 times per day

Insulinplex - 2 caps 3 times per day

Betaine Ultra Forte - 2 caps with every protein meal

Magnesium - 2 with dinner, 2 at bedtime

Zinc - 2 at bedtime

As you can see, that’s quite a haul. Some of these are relatively obvious for regular readers. Some I’m a little unsure of.

L-tyrosine - from what I can tell this is meant as part of the cortisol protocol. Seems to be a calming agent.

The zinc and magnesium - this is essentially ZMA. Although there are different ingredients in Poliquin’s supplement versus Biotest, so I’m a little unsure there.

Cardiosterol - most confused about this one. Seems as though it’s a cholestorol lowering agent.

Betaine - digestive aid?

This is coupled with what their staff called a “caveman diet”, which is essentially what I have been on, though it’s a little more carb restricted - no different than what CT recommends for fat people though - less than 50g per day.

Here’s my question re: this process. The skinfold measurement on my tricep, for instance, indicates low testosterone. So let’s say for the next 6 weeks I bust my ass and lose 5 percent of that 19.2% bodyfat. As such, let’s say the tricep measurement goes down. This indicates that my testosterone is up?

Meh…a lot I don’t understand still.

I also can’t make up my mind whether to train there or not. It’s a significant investment, but it involves program design catered to my goals, measured progress, proper gear…there are benefits. Especially since I can’t seem to get CT to accept any of my canadian dollars, haha. But really, could I not just use a ready made program from here, you know?

Ok, this ended up being wordy after all, sorry folks.

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[quote]NeelyDan wrote:

Here’s my question re: this process. The skinfold measurement on my tricep, for instance, indicates low testosterone. So let’s say for the next 6 weeks I bust my ass and lose 5 percent of that 19.2% bodyfat. As such, let’s say the tricep measurement goes down. This indicates that my testosterone is up?

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I believe what this process looks at (partially) is not just BF% but where your body has allocated the fatty deposits. Where you store your fat indicates high cortisol, low test etc…

If you lowered BF%, and your hormonal profile remains the same then the reduction should be rather uniform through all your fatty areas. A decrease in your tricep deposit that is in excess of the decrease found throughout the rest of your body WOULD indicate just what you said, an increase in T levels.

If you just lowered bf everywhere, and the tricep to subscap ratio remained the same for instance…then you simply lowered your overal bodyfat, with no measurable change in your hormonal profile. ( I should say that this is a very simplified example from someone who’s still yearning to learn as much as I can)