I got back some blood tests that I was given from that company that runs that study where i got some free supplements.
I dont have the exact numbers as I will meet with them to go over the detailed results in a few weeks. From what they told me over the phone, my DHEA was in the normal range for my age group, not high, but not low. my TSH was high, but he said that almost all serious athletes TSH is elevated and is nothing to worry about. My other hormones were normal, as were my white and red blood cells (low end of normal, but still normal). I cant remember the Vitamin D, but it was in the high ideal range. My B12 was perfect, nice and high and my Omega 3-6 ratio was the best he had ever seen from a first time client and was 1:1.5 so VERY close to the perfect 1:1 ratio.
The only real concerns were that my ALT (liver enzyme) was a bit high, which means i have some toxicity, and that my LDL-oxidative Cholesterol was also high.
I have been given a urine test and some heavy metal detox pills (1 days worth) and will give before and after samples to test for heavy metal toxicity. If im found to have toxicity, they will supply heavy metal detox pills free of charge.
As far as the high LDL, he said to add in 400iu of mixed vitamin E and we would retest the blood in another 6 months.
[quote]tork94 wrote:
right now i take 1 magnesium bis-glycerate 3 times/day, 2 polymags PWO, 2 polymags with dinner, the topical mag and some left over magnesium citrate before bed.
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So…
what I’m saying is that your does of Magnesium may be too high, and that could be causing your loose bowels.
Not sure if that made it through in my last post.[/quote]
Thanks, i sort of though that you were saying the to much magnesium from one source would cause loose stool.
ill pull back a little on the Mag and see how that works of me.
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i’d ditch the citrate - that’s a “cheaper” form that at higher doses could be causing the, uh, potty problem. i’d bet removing that, or even replacing that dose with a different form of mag would stop the issue. the glycinate form is usually much more tolerable.
Taking Thursday off last week was great, was able to have a nap, go out with friends (didnt drink) and have a good time in general. That night i slept the best i have in a long time and training on Friday and Saturday was very successful.
Its only one day/week, but having a day to have some fun and relaxation is pretty awesome after basically having no life besides training, school and work for a very long time.
in related news, ill have my next skin folds done next week, probably tuesday. I feel like im a bit leaner, even around my love-handle area despite adding some carbs in PWO. And my performance is almost back to 100% of my best ever. So hopefully that reflects on the skinfolds.
[quote]tork94 wrote:
my TSH was high, but he said that almost all serious athletes TSH is elevated and is nothing to worry about. [/quote]
I’ve never heard of this and I’ve done a lot of reading on hypothyroidism. I’ve read numerous white papers, published studies, and abstracts and never came across this.
In fact, many organizations consider the current accepted ranges to be too high, so I’m concerned if your TSH levels are outside the currently accepted range.
Any idea what the level was?
Two typical symptoms of untreated hypothyroidism is an inability to lose weight and fatigue.
Edit: Second sentence seems unclear. I did not publish studies, I read studies that were published by others.
[quote]tork94 wrote:
my TSH was high, but he said that almost all serious athletes TSH is elevated and is nothing to worry about. [/quote]
I’ve never heard of this and I’ve done a lot of reading on hypothyroidism. I’ve read numerous white papers, published studies, and abstracts and never came across this.
In fact, many organizations consider the current accepted ranges to be too high, so I’m concerned if your TSH levels are outside the currently accepted range.
Any idea what the level was?
Two typical symptoms of untreated hypothyroidism is an inability to lose weight and fatigue.
Edit: Second sentence seems unclear. I did not publish studies, I read studies that were published by others.
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I dont have a clear idea of what the level was, i got this info over the phone and made an appointment to meet in person to go over the results in about 2 weeks. Ill get back to you then.
I dont have a problem losing weight, if anything its hard to keep my weight up, but my weight has been pretty stable for a long time.
Any Bio sig practioners or people who have one through it…
John Meadows (a writer on this site) has suggested that fermented soy is the only kind that is ok for not creating or adding to estrogen issues, what say you all ? Agree ?
Yeah Im the one who asked that question because of talking to Poliquin.
From the forums on Poliquins site the reponse I got was that soy lechithin is not a problem. Research said soy protein and soy fiber are what causes a estrogen reponse.
Im interested because I have avoided everything soy for a while now. I would definitely like to know more.
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Yeah Im the one who asked that question because of talking to Poliquin.
From the forums on Poliquins site the reponse I got was that soy lechithin is not a problem. Research said soy protein and soy fiber are what causes a estrogen reponse.
Im interested because I have avoided everything soy for a while now. I would definitely like to know more. [/quote]
its nice to know that the lechthen isnt a big issue, as its in a huge variety of foods and supplements.
also sense i have added vitamin E and that is suspended in soy bean oil, its nice to know that only the protein and fiber and the major concerns.
Haha,
Dont quote me. THis is just what I have read so far. I asked Coach P at the BioSig and he got kind of pissed because I think he mis-assumed that I was trying to call him out. BUt I asked him "Why do you say no soy but its in your products (I named the Primal Bars, and a few of the Estrogen products in particular). He said because in the bars its a fat and thats different and with the products how he extracts it and breaks it down makes it different. That there is a difference between phyotoestrogen and something else.
BUt I would love others to weigh in on this. I have since added in soy lechitin with what i have noticed as no change. I didnt add in a shit load but I bought a box of Primal Bars and it was in some yogurt. Everything I read either said its horrible or its fine no middle ground.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Any Bio sig practioners or people who have one through it…
John Meadows (a writer on this site) has suggested that fermented soy is the only kind that is ok for not creating or adding to estrogen issues, what say you all ? Agree ?[/quote]
Well, if you’re going to consume soy, aside from edamame, then choose the fermented products like Natto, tempeh, or Miso. My issue is, in my limited experience, is it tastes like shit. So I avoid altogether.
Charles said at the Biosig I attended, is if you are non asian, you lack the necessary enzymes to break down soy.
Soy in general products is all junk. Salad dressings, packaged foods, etc. These are driven by profits, so the oil is the cheapest, pesticide ridden, Genetically modified soy there is.
Charles soy is derived from non gmo sources. Also, being just the fat, it doesn’t contain the estrogens.
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
I have since added in soy lechitin with what i have noticed as no change. I didnt add in a shit load but I bought a box of Primal Bars and it was in some yogurt. Everything I read either said its horrible or its fine no middle ground. [/quote]
If the soy is organic (at least non GMO), and its from a good company (one that manufactures it so theres no protein or estrogenic residue), then you should be fine consuming it.
One last question (for now), do dark circles under your eyes mean anything ? I am not sure about the whole “lack of sleep” argument, because I sleep pretty well. Could it be from an excess or a lack of something ? An allergy maybe ? Anyone ?
One last question (for now), do dark circles under your eyes mean anything ? I am not sure about the whole “lack of sleep” argument, because I sleep pretty well. Could it be from an excess or a lack of something ? An allergy maybe ? Anyone ?[/quote]
I believe its something to do with liver toxicity. I still have some dark circles, but they improved a lot when i was drinking organic lime juice and taking sub-lingual glycine to help with toxicity.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
One last question (for now), do dark circles under your eyes mean anything ? I am not sure about the whole “lack of sleep” argument, because I sleep pretty well. Could it be from an excess or a lack of something ? An allergy maybe ? Anyone ?[/quote]
I believe its something to do with liver toxicity. I still have some dark circles, but they improved a lot when i was drinking organic lime juice and taking sub-lingual glycine to help with toxicity. [/quote]
It can be liver toxicity. It can also be indicative of gut pathogens/parasites.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
One last question (for now), do dark circles under your eyes mean anything ? I am not sure about the whole “lack of sleep” argument, because I sleep pretty well. Could it be from an excess or a lack of something ? An allergy maybe ? Anyone ?[/quote]
I believe its something to do with liver toxicity. I still have some dark circles, but they improved a lot when i was drinking organic lime juice and taking sub-lingual glycine to help with toxicity. [/quote]
It can be liver toxicity. It can also be indicative of gut pathogens/parasites.
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That might make more sense for me, I have had serious gut issues for many years.
I heard its also related to kidneys as well. Also you can be taxing your adrenals but still sleeping 8-9hours. How do you know youre getting good sleep? What makes you say that for sure?
Well I figure that I pass out pretty well at night, so I could be wrong. I won’t ever be able to sleep a full night for medical reasons, but I think I do well considering.
I have my next skinfolds tomorrow, will up date at the end of the week.
I think i have added some muscle over the last few weeks without gaining any significant fat IMO. Its midterm time so i have been fairly stressed, but i think i have made some progress.