Hi,
I would like to try IGF an MGF.
But I can’t pin me with IGF after WO (cause I work in the gym as a trainer and I dont go home after my training session).
I know pMGF has a longer halflife so it can be used EOD/E2D
Should be a “wise” choose to try pMGF alone?
My target are maintain-increase LBM during my cutting phase.
I have not heard of anyone running just pegMGF alone. However I would be greatly interested in the protocol and outcomes of others who have.
You may be able to use IGF with a split dose. Once when you wake up and again when you get home from work. I did that before and had good results.
No clue about pMGF alone, sorry I coudn’t help there.
Alright, I’m game…
I have 2000mcg of IGf and 2000mcg pegMGF in my hands and about 11 weeks until my next AAS cycle. I’ve been off the IGF for about 1 week and plan on taking at least another 2 off before doing anything.
Let me throw this out there first and then I will explain my thinking behind it. Three weeks of IGF @ 40mcg/day, 5 days a weeks, split IM PWO into worked groups. Then 3 weeks of peg MGF 200mcg eod IM. Then another 3 weeks of IGF at the same dosing protocol previously mentioned.
During my first run with IGF I noticed excellent gains in the first 2-3 weeks but nothing after that period. As I understand my satelitte cells were depleted and thus rendering the IGF useless. I also understand the MGF to be able to restock the satelitte cells at a higher rate.
Therefore the 3 week break from IGF to MGF should hopefully allow me to have a successful second run of IGF in a short period. This way I would also be able to see what MGF can do as a standalone.
This is not set in stone and may be useless. I am eager to learn and if someone has anything to add to this, negative critism is especially welcome please do so. Like I said I have at least 2 weeks until I start anything and 11 weeks until I use AAS again so I have some time to rethink it.
2thepain:
I think 3 weeks are too little time for restock of satellite cells. However i have not found anything intresting on the Net.
I’m really intrested in the results you’ll get.
Also, i have a question for you: do you think that 3weeks of IGF or pMGF could be worthy during a cutting phase?
[quote]cadav wrote:
2thepain:
I think 3 weeks are too little time for restock of satellite cells. However i have not found anything intresting on the Net.
I’m really intrested in the results you’ll get.
Also, i have a question for you: do you think that 3weeks of IGF or pMGF could be worthy during a cutting phase?[/quote]
I also have not found anything that states about how long it will take to restock satelittle cells. I may wait about 5 weeks so that my time off equals time on.
As far as IGF/MGF during cutting, hell yeah! I ran my first IGF/MGF cycle at the end of a cutting AAS cycle. My calories were restricted slightly below maintenance and I was still able to gain about 5 lbs while there was no increase in bodyfat.
Great info!
I just need to find some funds 
for the igf then i can start to experiment with it 
My source has difficult to find pmgf so i think i’ll try what he can founf (may ne only igf)
If i use IGF i can shot 20mg per side IM, in the morning and in the evening (ie 40mg per side in a day).
If i workout 2 or more groups the total IGF will increase… so for example:
monday pecs+back =40+40mg
tuesday: quad+hamstring= 40+40
thursday: shoulder+biceps+triceps=40+40+40
is this ok?
IMO you don’t need to multiply the amount of IGF with additional muscle groups. I think 40mcg a day total will be fine. Shooting 80 or 120mcg a day will probably increase your risk of intestinal growth without offering much benefit.
I too am interested in a Lr3-IFG only cycle…But most sources I read had findings stating that the best protocols were anywhere from 80-100mcg/day???Is there information stating that these amounts can cause intestinal growth???
2thepain:
so if i have multiple muscle group i just have to split dose among them?
[quote]MGD wrote:
I too am interested in a Lr3-IFG only cycle…But most sources I read had findings stating that the best protocols were anywhere from 80-100mcg/day???Is there information stating that these amounts can cause intestinal growth???[/quote]
I did 100mcg a day and was perfectly fine (of IGF-1) infact thats where I got the best results.
Did you get any sides(intestinal growth or other)?
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
I did 100mcg a day and was perfectly fine (of IGF-1) infact thats where I got the best results.[/quote]
I’m also interested, what did your dosing protocol look like?
[quote]2thepain wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
I did 100mcg a day and was perfectly fine (of IGF-1) infact thats where I got the best results.
I’m also interested, what did your dosing protocol look like?
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Would also be interested in dosing protocol…Spent several days devoted to researching the LR3 IGF-1, but more practical info would be a hug help in terms of actual dosing, length of implementation, etc.
-Thanks much for responding!
All of my future IGF runs, regardless of daily dosage will be three weeks long. This is when I noticed good results, week 4 and 5 were stagnant. I am still trying to figure out what amount of time to take off.
I have talked with my sourge.
I’ll buy 1mg, and I’ll do the following:
100mcg x day (splitted among worked muscle)
the protocoll will be 3weeks long, with 3 workout days in a week (ie 300mcg x week)
or should I do 4weeks @240mcg/week? I’m a bit concerned
any comments? I’m a bit concerned about permanent intestinal growth…
[quote]cadav wrote:
I have talked with my sourge.
I’ll buy 1mg, and I’ll do the following:
100mcg x day (splitted among worked muscle)
the protocoll will be 3weeks long, with 3 workout days in a week (ie 300mcg x week)
or should I do 4weeks @240mcg/week? I’m a bit concerned
any comments? I’m a bit concerned about permanent intestinal growth…
[/quote]
300mcg a day seems kinds high in my opinion. However a lot of the stuff I read on IGF referenced cycles that used 120mcg/day with no reported side effects. I’ll admit my 40mcg/day is a conservative dosage. I am interested in your results.
[quote]cadav wrote:
I have talked with my sourge.
I’ll buy 1mg, and I’ll do the following:
100mcg x day (splitted among worked muscle)
the protocoll will be 3weeks long, with 3 workout days in a week (ie 300mcg x week)
or should I do 4weeks @240mcg/week? I’m a bit concerned
any comments? I’m a bit concerned about permanent intestinal growth…
[/quote]
When do you plan to start this run? Did you decide on IGF only?
Ok so I’ll throw my 2cents in here since I have a few runs under my belt with IGF and MGF.
For me I started at 50mcg a day and worked up to 100mcg a day for my first cycle. My second cycle again I started at 50mcg but am keeping it at 70mcg a day b/c I see no difference in 70-80 and 100+. The dosage that I find works best for me is 20mcg in the morning and then 50mcg at night after my workouts.
I am currently trying pegMGF with my run of 70mcg 4 days per week and 200mcg pegMGF 2 days per week. I use the peg on wed and sat and take sunday off from both. Good results thus far, but I waited entirely too late to go up to 70mcg so I suspect I will come in not as good as I have done before.
With this dosing I get good strength gains and my back/knees are able to handle heavy loads throughout the week. I also get some good decreases in bodyfat even with my increase in hunger and thus calories.
Hope this helps!
[quote]2thepain wrote:
When do you plan to start this run? Did you decide on IGF only?[/quote]
as soon as my good source reply me
and yes… only IGF