Playing Basketball After Lifting

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I’m in weight training class in school. I have the class in 1st period in the morning. We run a block schedule so I dont have it everyday.

After school, I play basketball and do my agility and pylometric drills and stuff. And I dont want to do that stuff AFTER lowerbody lifting. So I made a lifting schedule so the only time I ever lift before playing basketball is an Upperbody Workout.

That said. Do you guy think lifting in the morning will screw up my shot when I play/practice basketball in the afternoon?

I mean, I will be done with my upperbody morning workouts by 9:05 AM. And I wont play basketball until about 2:45 PM. That’s about 5.5 hours inbetween. And I’ll drink a Whey Protein shake after I’m done working out in the morning. And I’ll try to stretch and loosen up my arms inbetween classes.

I have to improve my shot and I’m worried that lifting upperbody in the morning will affect my ability to improve my jumpshot.

What do you guys think?

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You’ll be fine.

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haha i used to have a lifting class too, but i would sweat so much that no shower would stop it for the rest of the day. funny how girls dont like guys who sweat the entire school day.

i think as long as you had like 30 minutes after lifting upper body to lose that stiff feeling where ever shot feels like it could go over the backboard, youd be fine! a whole day, i agree, ull be fine

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You should be fine, should not bother/hinder your shot one bit. Make sure you do some hard stretching after your lifting, at least 10-12 mins. Good luck.

LRV

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Michael Jordan often did weight training before practices and games too. If his schedule said lift weights mon, wed & fri then he did that, no matter if he had a game that night or not. And he did just fine:) Thousunds or even millions of basketball players are doing the exact same thing today, and have been doing for the last 20 years or so. So you and MJ will not be the only ones.

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The limiting factor in basketball is not technical ability for 99% of the guys out there… it is athleticism. I fight this battle constantly with coaches who ‘want the best for their kids’, but then don’t let them lift for the same reason. Ignorant.

Tell you what, you stop playing pick-up for half of those sessions, and concentrate on accelerating the athleticism displayed by your body, and then during the season go back to playing all the time and see what happens. I would still do some easy shooting sessions, but help your body recover as best as possible.

Those kids you are playing pick-up with will still be at the local rec when they are 40, and you can worry about your shot then.

If you want to be good, really good, then you better be a freak athletically… plain and simple. If you want to be a rec hero, jerk around and practice your shot all day and have no answer for how to get open against collegiate level defense, or better yet how to defend a guy who is a freak athletically.

J

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[quote]Jumanji wrote:
If you want to be good, really good, then you better be a freak athletically… [/quote]

God that so incredibly wrong. Have you watched any pro ball? If you have, you wouldnt make that kind of comment. There are COUNTLESS players that lack athleticism that play pro ball and thats the way its been.

To the OP. As long as you’re not lifting right before you’re going to play you’ll be fine.

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Jumanji wrote:
If you want to be good, really good, then you better be a freak athletically…

God that so incredibly wrong. Have you watched any pro ball? If you have, you wouldnt make that kind of comment. There are COUNTLESS players that lack athleticism that play pro ball and thats the way its been.[/quote]

Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Jumanji,
I coach volleyball and have been fighting a similar war for the last couple of years. The parents of the kids want to send them to skills camp after skills camp, but the problem arises that at a certain point, technique work is no longer helping. Their body just physically CAN’T perform that skill any better since the limiting factor is in specific strength rather than ability. The whole “functional” before “technical” thing…

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…
[/quote]

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]

Nearly everyone you mention is a center or that height…compare their athleticism to the average guy their height and the average guy their height will look like a newborn deer trying to walk.

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[quote]RickJames wrote:
Nearly everyone you mention is a center or that height…compare their athleticism to the average guy their height and the average guy their height will look like a newborn deer trying to walk. [/quote]

Barkley, Dumars, Craig Hodges, Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles, John Paxson, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, Horace Grant, LARRY BIRD, etc… I can continue if you like?

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]

I think you may be making the mistake of comparing Pro Players to other Pro Players and determining their athleticism to be “average.”

Average at the Pro level is still freaky.

Average at the Pro level means…

Your strength allows you to post up.
You jump high to get your shot off.
Your speed gets you by a defender.

Every player needs a base level of athleticism to play the game. That level is very high to most kids playing ball in highschool.

I’m willing to say that many players in the NBA were born with genetic athleticism and therefore didn’t have to worry about much speed and strength training throughout their lives. Basically, anything they did in the weight room gave them good enough gains.

All of us non-freaks have to bust our asses (and our grey matter) to be “Athletically average”.

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]
Did you really just say this? EVERY one of these guys (with the possible exception of Cartwright) is an amazing athelete.

Someone who is 7’ tall but moves like a guy who is 6’ tall is athletic. Shaq is one of the most athletic guys in the HISTORY of the NBA.

I can’t get over just how wrong you are… are you trying to fool with people?

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]

I think most of the list is good… except for Shaq and LJ. Before getting older and having injuries, they were both top notch athletes.

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]
I still can’t get over you calling Shaq unathletic. How many 7’ 330lb guys can move like him? He certainly isn’t good because of his skills. Heck, I have better skills than Shaq and thats not saying much.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”
Did you really just say this? EVERY one of these guys (with the possible exception of Cartwright) is an amazing athelete.

Someone who is 7’ tall but moves like a guy who is 6’ tall is athletic. Shaq is one of the most athletic guys in the HISTORY of the NBA.

I can’t get over just how wrong you are… are you trying to fool with people?

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Shaq is athletic? Please wait while I stop laughing. He’s big and lumbering. He has spurts where he moves his feet but those days a long gone.

The ones I mentioned have basketball skills and basketball moves not “freaky athleticism.”

Athletes: Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, etc. Those people have “freaky athleticism.”

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
RickJames wrote:
Nearly everyone you mention is a center or that height…compare their athleticism to the average guy their height and the average guy their height will look like a newborn deer trying to walk.

Barkley, Dumars, Craig Hodges, Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles, John Paxson, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, Horace Grant, LARRY BIRD, etc… I can continue if you like?[/quote]
Barkley = amazing athlete
Dumars = amazing athlete
Bird = amazing athlete

The rest are all still very good athletes. Below average by NBA standards, but they would break a lot of ankles at any YMCA pick-up game.

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[quote]Kuz wrote:
I think most of the list is good… except for Shaq and LJ. Before getting older and having injuries, they were both top notch athletes.[/quote]

Yeah LJ was a beast but once the injury happend he was toast. I cant agree that Shaq is a athletic. He uses force more than athleticism. Those one or two highlights of his CAREER of him running a fast break dont constitute having “freaky athleticism.” I did however debate putting him on the list. But I said fuck it. I knew it would cause some eyebrows to raise.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
RickJames wrote:
Nearly everyone you mention is a center or that height…compare their athleticism to the average guy their height and the average guy their height will look like a newborn deer trying to walk.

Barkley, Dumars, Craig Hodges, Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles, John Paxson, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, Horace Grant, LARRY BIRD, etc… I can continue if you like?
Barkley = amazing athlete
Dumars = amazing athlete
Bird = amazing athlete

The rest are all still very good athletes. Below average by NBA standards, but they would break a lot of ankles at any YMCA pick-up game.

[/quote]

Barkley is questionable. Dumars slightly but Bird, not a chance!

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
OBoile wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Countless pro players that lack athleticism? I dunno about that…

Shaq, Malone, Motumbo, Melo, Toni Kukoc (and many more europeans), Larry Johnson, Ewing, Yao Ming, Bill Cartwright, Ralph Sampson, Kevin McHale, Rasheed Wallace, etc. None of those players have anything above average (at best) athleticism. But they seemed to have been pretty damn good players…

What they have is ridiculous basketball skills, not “freaky athleticism.”
Did you really just say this? EVERY one of these guys (with the possible exception of Cartwright) is an amazing athelete.

Someone who is 7’ tall but moves like a guy who is 6’ tall is athletic. Shaq is one of the most athletic guys in the HISTORY of the NBA.

I can’t get over just how wrong you are… are you trying to fool with people?

Shaq is athletic? Please wait while I stop laughing. He’s big and lumbering. He has spurts where he moves his feet but those days a long gone.

The ones I mentioned have basketball skills and basketball moves not “freaky athleticism.”

Athletes: Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, etc. Those people have “freaky athleticism.”[/quote]
Well, there is a reason people like you don’t scout for the NBA.

Curious: why doesn’t every team have a 7’ 330lb guy playing for them? If all it takes is to be “big and lumbering” then I’m sure we could find 30 guys who are Shaq’s size.

Even at his relatively old age, Shaq still moves as quickly as guys who are 80 lbs. lighter than him. Put 6" and 80 lbs. on Jordan, Kobe etc. and doubt any one of them would move as quickly as Shaq did in his prime.

Athleticism is relative to size. There are lots of guys who run faster/jump higher than MJ or Kobe. There aren’t a lot of 6’6" guys who do.

For that matter, there are many women with great basketball skill. Why aren’t they in the NBA if that is all you need? Why is it that any mid-major NCAA men’s team would crush any WNBA team despite having worse skills?