[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Wait. I’m out of the loop guys. where and when are those CT pics from?[/quote]
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
So, what about this guy? Can he teach me anything about growing my arms beyond his own development? I think he probably could. In fact, I would probably take his advice over yours, no offense.
DB[/quote]
WTF? I don’t even know who that is and once again for the slow people, IF HE HAS TRAINED GUYS TO GET REALLY BIG THEN HE OBVIOUSLY FUCKING QUALIFIES TO HELP PEOPLE GET REALLY BIG.
I mean, holy shit, are some of you this slow? How many timers have I written just that in this thread alone? 10 times? And you still don’t get it?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
Ehh… yeah I suppose you’re right to some degree.
But look at Vince Gironda. That fucker was nicely shaped, but small. Somewhere along the line he got a reputation for training men up to their potential. And that’s really the key word here.
In that same regard (and contrary to your argument) why would big Kai Greene go to “small” Charles Glass for training advice?
Actually, there’s so much gray area in these arguments it’s ridiculous to continue.
[/quote]
Once again, Charles Glass was fucking huge back in the day. Why would anyone who follows bodybuilding ignore his past progress just because he is older now? There actually is no gray area. If you have trained people to get big, then you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t. If you have built yourself up, you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t.
Therefore, small fuckers who have trained no one else to get big have no credibility to be telling other big people how to get even bigger.
Period.
What the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?
Roelly’s trainer is an old woman who looks the least likely to know about bodybuilding…but she has trained HIM and many other people to get really big, therefore, she has cred that no other skinny person without that will ever have.
What is “gray” about that?[/quote]
Again with the off tanget subjects, Did the OP say, Post a picture that looks like mens Health “or better” OR give me some other qualification, like who you trained, If you used to be huge. If your a scientist who studies this stuff. etc…
He didn’t, if you said that, we aren’t arguing it, he didn’t say it, so stop running to his defense and making arguments he didn’t make.
Nobody is saying that it’s bad to learn how to get big from a big guy. But we are saying not ALL big guys are going to be the best to learn how to get big from. The quality of information in someones brain is not restricted by thier physical body.
The likleyhood that a Big guy has attained some good information on how he got there is very likley, and the likleyhood that your average guy off the street has good info on how to get big is not very likley. All that being said.
We aren’t on the street, we are on a bodybuilding website. So there is a chance that someone here who maybe isn’t all that interested in bodybuilding but just came here to get an edge on sports performance and nutrition, may have read every fucking bodybuilding article this site has ever posted. They may also own books like Arnolds BB bible and stacks of old muscle mags. Maybe the sport interests them even though they have no desire or ability to train to get a bodybuilders physique. And maybe this person happens to feel like sharing some of the KNOWLEDGE (not wisdom) he has picked up over the years once in a while. According to You and OP this is a sin and this person should be put on the ignore list for all time because they don’t have a picture up and if they do it doesn’t look like a bodybuilder.
I’m saying that is retarded, and anyone who disregards that persons opinion is losing an opportunity to learn. It’s thier loss, it’s your loss.
V
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
So, what about this guy? Can he teach me anything about growing my arms beyond his own development? I think he probably could. In fact, I would probably take his advice over yours, no offense.
DB[/quote]
WTF? I don’t even know who that is and once again for the slow people, IF HE HAS TRAINED GUYS TO GET REALLY BIG THEN HE OBVIOUSLY FUCKING QUALIFIES TO HELP PEOPLE GET REALLY BIG.
I mean, holy shit, are some of you this slow? How many timers have I written just that in this thread alone? 10 times? And you still don’t get it?[/quote]
Oh so you agree with our sentiment that it’s stupid to ask for pictures in order to be deemed credible since there are other factors that may make one credible? Glad you Agree.
V
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
Ehh… yeah I suppose you’re right to some degree.
But look at Vince Gironda. That fucker was nicely shaped, but small. Somewhere along the line he got a reputation for training men up to their potential. And that’s really the key word here.
In that same regard (and contrary to your argument) why would big Kai Greene go to “small” Charles Glass for training advice?
Actually, there’s so much gray area in these arguments it’s ridiculous to continue.
[/quote]
Once again, Charles Glass was fucking huge back in the day. Why would anyone who follows bodybuilding ignore his past progress just because he is older now? There actually is no gray area. If you have trained people to get big, then you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t. If you have built yourself up, you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t.
Therefore, small fuckers who have trained no one else to get big have no credibility to be telling other big people how to get even bigger.
Period.
What the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?
Roelly’s trainer is an old woman who looks the least likely to know about bodybuilding…but she has trained HIM and many other people to get really big, therefore, she has cred that no other skinny person without that will ever have.
What is “gray” about that?[/quote]
The gray is the area between perception and reality. In one breath you say, “what the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?” In the next you cite an unlikely-looking old woman as Roelly’s trainer.
So in a way, you’ve shown that it’s really not about how someone looks. At least not in all cases. So it’s not just black or white.
I’m pretty sure (I could he wrong) that initially we are talking “in general” here.
The posters who are bringing up specific “professionals” who are “small” who have good advice are talking about the EXCEPTION and not the RULE. Of course there are going to be EXCEPTIONS (key word here exception) but “in general” someone who looks untrained probably isn’t the best person to get training/nutrition advice from.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
Ehh… yeah I suppose you’re right to some degree.
But look at Vince Gironda. That fucker was nicely shaped, but small. Somewhere along the line he got a reputation for training men up to their potential. And that’s really the key word here.
In that same regard (and contrary to your argument) why would big Kai Greene go to “small” Charles Glass for training advice?
Actually, there’s so much gray area in these arguments it’s ridiculous to continue.
[/quote]
Once again, Charles Glass was fucking huge back in the day. Why would anyone who follows bodybuilding ignore his past progress just because he is older now? There actually is no gray area. If you have trained people to get big, then you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t. If you have built yourself up, you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t.
Therefore, small fuckers who have trained no one else to get big have no credibility to be telling other big people how to get even bigger.
Period.
What the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?
Roelly’s trainer is an old woman who looks the least likely to know about bodybuilding…but she has trained HIM and many other people to get really big, therefore, she has cred that no other skinny person without that will ever have.
What is “gray” about that?[/quote]
The gray is the area between perception and reality. In one breath you say, “what the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?” In the next you cite an unlikely-looking old woman as Roelly’s trainer.
So in a way, you’ve shown that it’s really not about how someone looks. At least not in all cases. So it’s not just black or white. [/quote]
What on Earth happens in ALL CASES aside from you being born and dying? There is no reason for this to be this hard for you or anyone else to understand…and the number of skinny fuckers in this industry who have trained HUGE bodybuilders is very low. Your chances are not better assuming every skinny fucker has trained pro bodybuilders.
Pointing out rare exceptions is ridiculous at this point as if you can’t understand what is being said.
I used her to make a point, that yes, there are people who have trained guys to get really big and they are the only ones who would qualify to help YOU get really big, not some skinny guy who has trained NO ONE else to get really big.
I am out of crayons on this now. Some of you are just slow.
[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m pretty sure (I could he wrong) that initially we are talking “in general” here.
The posters who are bringing up specific “professionals” who are “small” who have good advice are talking about the EXCEPTION and not the RULE. Of course there are going to be EXCEPTIONS (key word here exception) but “in general” someone who looks untrained probably isn’t the best person to get training/nutrition advice from.
[/quote]
Question, why the fuck are they even arguing against this? This site is getting dumber by the minute.
These guys obviously know everything about how to get big gunz.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
Ehh… yeah I suppose you’re right to some degree.
But look at Vince Gironda. That fucker was nicely shaped, but small. Somewhere along the line he got a reputation for training men up to their potential. And that’s really the key word here.
In that same regard (and contrary to your argument) why would big Kai Greene go to “small” Charles Glass for training advice?
Actually, there’s so much gray area in these arguments it’s ridiculous to continue.
[/quote]
Once again, Charles Glass was fucking huge back in the day. Why would anyone who follows bodybuilding ignore his past progress just because he is older now? There actually is no gray area. If you have trained people to get big, then you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t. If you have built yourself up, you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t.
Therefore, small fuckers who have trained no one else to get big have no credibility to be telling other big people how to get even bigger.
Period.
What the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?
Roelly’s trainer is an old woman who looks the least likely to know about bodybuilding…but she has trained HIM and many other people to get really big, therefore, she has cred that no other skinny person without that will ever have.
What is “gray” about that?[/quote]
The gray is the area between perception and reality. In one breath you say, “what the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?” In the next you cite an unlikely-looking old woman as Roelly’s trainer.
So in a way, you’ve shown that it’s really not about how someone looks. At least not in all cases. So it’s not just black or white. [/quote]
What on Earth happens in ALL CASES aside from you being born and dying? There is no reason for this to be this hard for you or anyone else to understand…and the number of skinny fuckers in this industry who have trained HUGE bodybuilders is very low. Your chances are not better assuming every skinny fucker has trained pro bodybuilders.
Pointing out rare exceptions is ridiculous at this point as if you can’t understand what is being said.
I used her to make a point, that yes, there are people who have trained guys to get really big and they are the only ones who would qualify to help YOU get really big, not some skinny guy who has trained NO ONE else to get really big.
I am out of crayons on this now. Some of you are just slow.[/quote]
Wait! I have a Copper Crayola that we can share! Plus, my box has the built-in sharpener!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wait! I have a Copper Crayola that we can share! Plus, my box has the built-in sharpener!
[/quote]
You would have crayons!
Speaking of crayons, have you seen any commercials for that new crayola product where you can melt down and combine crayons to make cool swirly ones of your own colors? Sweeeeeeeeeet! I wish I had kids so that I could buy them one and then use it all the time for myself
EDIT: I don’t really wish I had kids right now
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
Ehh… yeah I suppose you’re right to some degree.
But look at Vince Gironda. That fucker was nicely shaped, but small. Somewhere along the line he got a reputation for training men up to their potential. And that’s really the key word here.
In that same regard (and contrary to your argument) why would big Kai Greene go to “small” Charles Glass for training advice?
Actually, there’s so much gray area in these arguments it’s ridiculous to continue.
[/quote]
Once again, Charles Glass was fucking huge back in the day. Why would anyone who follows bodybuilding ignore his past progress just because he is older now? There actually is no gray area. If you have trained people to get big, then you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t. If you have built yourself up, you qualify. If you haven’t, you don’t.
Therefore, small fuckers who have trained no one else to get big have no credibility to be telling other big people how to get even bigger.
Period.
What the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?
Roelly’s trainer is an old woman who looks the least likely to know about bodybuilding…but she has trained HIM and many other people to get really big, therefore, she has cred that no other skinny person without that will ever have.
What is “gray” about that?[/quote]
The gray is the area between perception and reality. In one breath you say, “what the hell would some 150lbs guy who looks nearly sedentary know about how I need to train to get even bigger?” In the next you cite an unlikely-looking old woman as Roelly’s trainer.
So in a way, you’ve shown that it’s really not about how someone looks. At least not in all cases. So it’s not just black or white. [/quote]
What on Earth happens in ALL CASES aside from you being born and dying? There is no reason for this to be this hard for you or anyone else to understand…and the number of skinny fuckers in this industry who have trained HUGE bodybuilders is very low. Your chances are not better assuming every skinny fucker has trained pro bodybuilders.
Pointing out rare exceptions is ridiculous at this point as if you can’t understand what is being said.
I used her to make a point, that yes, there are people who have trained guys to get really big and they are the only ones who would qualify to help YOU get really big, not some skinny guy who has trained NO ONE else to get really big.
I am out of crayons on this now. Some of you are just slow.[/quote]
If anyone is slow, it’s you. The OP said he wanted to see what others looked like so he could decide whether he wanted to take their advice. He didn’t mention anything about training others. Then you try to put words in our mouths and make it seem as if we are claiming that skinny guys are more qualified to talk about bodybuilding then big guys.
All we were trying to say is that you can’t judge training knowledge based on physique alone. Why is that so hard for you to follow “Professor”?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Your arguments get ridiculous. All we’re saying is not to automatically discount advice just because the person doesn’t have a great physique. [/quote]
That depends on WHAT that advice is. Once again, what throws a huge dividing line into this argument is what the fuck the goals are of the trainer in question. NO, some little dude does NOT know how someone should bench press 405lbs or more. NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21" after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development.
That is why there is a huge fucking difference between advice for some “fitness trainer” who may or may not hit the gym 2-3 times this week and that given to some guy who wants to gain another 100lbs.
Yes, you likely should discard the advice of people who have never been where you are trying to go and have never been with or trained anyone else who has either.
If you are speaking of basic advice like “eat more to gain weight”, then you are the one missing the point.[/quote]
So, what about this guy? Can he teach me anything about growing my arms beyond his own development? I think he probably could. In fact, I would probably take his advice over yours, no offense.
DB[/quote]
WTF? I don’t even know who that is and once again for the slow people, IF HE HAS TRAINED GUYS TO GET REALLY BIG THEN HE OBVIOUSLY FUCKING QUALIFIES TO HELP PEOPLE GET REALLY BIG.
I mean, holy shit, are some of you this slow? How many timers have I written just that in this thread alone? 10 times? And you still don’t get it?[/quote]
That’s Charles Staley. Btw, I don’t care how many times you might have said words to the contrary earlier in the thread, this was your latest post and it doesn’t leave ANY room for gray area.
“NO, some little dude does NOT know how I should train to get my arms to 21” after they hit 20. He would have basic knowledge at best up to his own level of development."
So which stance are you actually taking? I’m confused, because each time you contradict yourself, you become more adamant.
DB
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
If anyone is slow, it’s you. The OP said he wanted to see what others looked like so he could decide whether he wanted to take their advice. He didn’t mention anything about training others. [/quote]
He didn’t have to. if someone IS huge, they know how they did it. They have THAT experience. No one has written anywhere that you MST train other people to get huge. What is being said if you aren’t huge yourself, then you had better have trained others to be huge if you expect people with that goal to care what you have to say.
[quote]
Then you try to put words in our mouths and make it seem as if we are claiming that skinny guys are more qualified to talk about bodybuilding then big guys.
All we were trying to say is that you can’t judge training knowledge based on physique alone. Why is that so hard for you to follow “Professor”?[/quote]
Uh, 9 times out of 10, the skinny guy does NOT know how to get huge so why, speaking generally, would someone focus on skinny guys as if they might because 3 guys exist who do?
No, the only people looking retarded right now are the guys acting like there is some huge population of skinny fuckers out there training HUGE fucking bodybuilders. There isn’t, therefore, we can speak generally without needing jackasses popping out of the woodwork talking about exceptions to the rule.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
That’s Charles Staley.[/quote]
…and? How many guys has he trained who look like the guys CT trains?
Wait, so it is beyond your mental capacity to understand the act of speaking generally? Someone has to mention every outlier in the universe just so you don’t try to find any and all exceptions to the rule on the planet?
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
These guys obviously know everything about how to get big gunz.[/quote]
Are those pictures real?..
I need their advice!
edit: I find it hilarious how worked up some people get over this stuff. When I was skinny people asked me for advice because they knew that I had some level of knowledge about training. Other than CT and Tate, are a lot of the contributors to the articles here huge?
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
These guys obviously know everything about how to get big gunz.[/quote]
Yep…because big weight lifters are way too stupid to know who has real muscles and who doesn’t.
I mean, that must be the case for you to post this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
If anyone is slow, it’s you. The OP said he wanted to see what others looked like so he could decide whether he wanted to take their advice. He didn’t mention anything about training others. [/quote]
He didn’t have to. if someone IS huge, they know how they did it. They have THAT experience. No one has written anywhere that you MST train other people to get huge. What is being said if you aren’t huge yourself, then you had better have trained others to be huge if you expect people with that goal to care what you have to say.
[quote]
Then you try to put words in our mouths and make it seem as if we are claiming that skinny guys are more qualified to talk about bodybuilding then big guys.
All we were trying to say is that you can’t judge training knowledge based on physique alone. Why is that so hard for you to follow “Professor”?[/quote]
Uh, 9 times out of 10, the skinny guy does NOT know how to get huge so why, speaking generally, would someone focus on skinny guys as if they might because 3 guys exist who do?
No, the only people looking retarded right now are the guys acting like there is some huge population of skinny fuckers out there training HUGE fucking bodybuilders. There isn’t, therefore, we can speak generally without needing jackasses popping out of the woodwork talking about exceptions to the rule.[/quote]
NOBODY SAID THAT! I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!
Who mentioned this huge population you speak of? You make stuff up and then argue against it. You love to argue for the sake of arguing. Forget Viagra, if you ever have ED problems just read a thread you disagree with, because I swear you get off on arguing on the interwebz.
^ Oh yeah, baby that’s it… c’mon. Tell me again about how splits aren’t functional. Mmmmmmm yeahhhhh!
Did you just say total body training? OHHHH, UHHHHHHHH, AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
If anyone is slow, it’s you. The OP said he wanted to see what others looked like so he could decide whether he wanted to take their advice. He didn’t mention anything about training others. [/quote]
He didn’t have to. if someone IS huge, they know how they did it. They have THAT experience. No one has written anywhere that you MST train other people to get huge. What is being said if you aren’t huge yourself, then you had better have trained others to be huge if you expect people with that goal to care what you have to say.
Let me make this simple for you before you start eating paste here. You wrote:“you can’t judge training knowledge based on physique alone.”
Gee, no one is saying you can know specifically what someone knows by looking at them…but what you can tell by looking at a really built guy is that he did it to himself and those are the ones most likely to help you reach anywhere near that same goal…not some guy who has never been that big who has not trained anyone else to do it.
What has been said from the beginning is that you are better off finding the guys who did it with themselves or others if your goal is the same.
This has been written 5,000 different ways in this thread but clearly that isn’t enough for you.
The op is referring to guys who have NOTHING to show for what they claim they know. Why you are defending that line of thought as if we should be listening to guys who have nothing to show is retarded.
Have a great one.