[quote]DeanoT wrote:
Any raw food has higher protein than cooked food. Salmonella poisoning is exceptionally rare when it comes to organic eggs. Do what you want… I am only trying to help. Might want to ask coach Thibs to see his viewpoint.
MrZsasz wrote:
Except he runs the risk of salmonella. And I believe I have read that the protein is not as redily available in raw eggs. It takes cooking to get the goodness out of them.[/quote]
You’re making a blanket statement there about raw foods. From what I understand, raw egg whites contain an enzyme that makes the protein not bioavailable. This means a great part of the egg wouldn’t be used. I am also only trying to help.
[quote]DeanoT wrote:
If you throw your nuts in a coffee grinder, you can make any kind of nut butter (just be sure to deshell). It is cheapest to find some online company and buy in bulk. Raw nuts are better from a nutritional standpoint than roasted or smoked nuts.[/quote]
USCTrojan,
I got my omega 3 eggs at trader joe’s. Trader joe’s has the cheapest eggs I have seen( in boston at least). Keep up the good work bro,
teebone2223
[quote]pat36 wrote:
Why Almond butter and not just almonds? Or did you have a choice?[/quote]
Haha! Nothing in this PC is by my choice!
Deano may have a point on why almond butter as opposed to plain almonds.
The almond butter I got is from Trader Joe’s. It probably isn’t the super duper organic retardedly all natural kind that are probably out there somewhere, but its the only one I found in my area so far. The only ingredients are almonds (I believe they said roasted though), and it has to be refrigerated after opening. It also has the oil accumulated on top that Coach Thibs wanted.
At this point in time, I’m going for ease of use, ease of availability, and price.
[quote]DeanoT wrote:
Usc, if you are having trouble eating eggs in the morning, just throw them in the blender and eat them raw. If you get the organic/omega eggs you should have no problems. If you mix in the fruit with it, it won’t taste bad, believe me. I have been doing this for years, and I have never had a problem. As Shugs said, the more you cook your eggs the harder it will be for you to consume them. It is always easier to drink calories than it is to eat calories. Remember that…
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I may have embellished a little on my description of the meals. I wouldn’t say that I’m having a hard time w/ the morning eggs, but if I had to rank the meals in order of difficulty thus far, it was the eggs in the morning. Now, its the chicken breast.
I was eating my one egg hard-boiled (last diet), and it feels like that took as much effort as eating 6 eggs scrambled. I love scrambled eggs.
But if shit hit the fan, I’ll keep the “drink your food” idea in mind. I’d have to buy a blender first, though!
Overall though, it has actually been A LOT easier for me to eat this diet than the last one!
[quote]teebone2223 wrote:
USCTrojan,
I got my omega 3 eggs at trader joe’s. Trader joe’s has the cheapest eggs I have seen( in boston at least). Keep up the good work bro,
teebone2223[/quote]
I finally went to the commissary on base after my workout today, and I got the exact same omega-3 eggs I got at Safeway for $3.59–except on base, I got them for $1.89!!!
[quote]Half_Truth wrote:
Apparently you don’t absorb as much protein from raw eggs as from cooked. I think Berardi brings this up in one of his articles.[/quote]
Check out page 7 of “Thib Gets Ripped”, as he posted an article that touches upon this issue.
Hey guys, my first time posting. This PC thing has actually inspired me to go for it also. Ive never followed a strict regiment, but im starting on sunday. Im starting late, so im going back to the beginning of your PC and starting there. Good luck, ill be following along.
[quote]FedorE wrote:
Hey guys, my first time posting. This PC thing has actually inspired me to go for it also. Ive never followed a strict regiment, but im starting on sunday. Im starting late, so im going back to the beginning of your PC and starting there. Good luck, ill be following along.[/quote]
FedorE,
Is that you in your avatar? If so, you don’t look small at all.
Good luck in your journey. And keep us updated. I love hearing from other guys following along, both in workouts and diet.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Half_Truth wrote:
Apparently you don’t absorb as much protein from raw eggs as from cooked. I think Berardi brings this up in one of his articles.
Check out page 7 of “Thib Gets Ripped”, as he posted an article that touches upon this issue.[/quote]
[quote]USCTrojan619 wrote:
anonym wrote:
Half_Truth wrote:
Apparently you don’t absorb as much protein from raw eggs as from cooked. I think Berardi brings this up in one of his articles.
Check out page 7 of “Thib Gets Ripped”, as he posted an article that touches upon this issue.
Looks like scrambled eggs it is. Wooooooo![/quote]
If you continue reading “Thib gets ripped”, you’ll see some research that coach quotes. It says that yes biotin is zapped by the egg whites, but that the egg (perfect nutrition source that it is) compensates by providing gobs of biotin in the yolk - thus cancelling out any negative effect. It also says that you actually get MORE nutritional value from raw eggs, and that as long as you use Omega-3 (organic) and verify each egg as you crack it for any nastiness, the chances of salmonella are next to nil (1 in 30,000). Furthermore, it goes on to say that for a healthy individual, the salmonella bacteria is easily handled and finally even if you are affected (get the runs), this can be neutralised by taking B complex vitamins every hour until you feel better.
Personnaly I love scrambled eggs, but it’s nice to know there is a very viable alternative and that coach Thibs eats his eggs that way - raw in shakes. No Pam or butter to mess up your macros either.
Oh yes, almost forgot, one caveat: Never use egg whites alone in shakes (unless compensating with B complex vitamins) since they WILL zap biotin and screw you up. Only add complete Omega-3 (organic if possible) eggs.
T-Man Ohio wrote:
Coach, I’m trying to follow along with the “Raw” egg thread here and am a little confused.
If I’m understanding this correctly here is what I believe you are saying:
As long as I use high quality, cage-free, organically fed, omega-3 enhanced chicken eggs I can use the whole egg (yolk and egg white)“Raw” - all I need to do is crack the egg open, inspect it and if it looks and smells good throw all of it into the blender.
Since I am using the whole egg (yolk and egg white) “Raw” I do NOT need to worry about reducing the absorption of B-vitamins; and do NOT need to supplement with a B vitamin complex since the egg yolks have one of the highest concentrations of biotin found in nature.
[quote]Serd wrote:
yes, there is a protein in egg whites called AVIDIN that binds to biotin and doesn’t allow it to be absorped properly.[/quote]
True, but if you half a simi-decent multi vitamin, it usually contains all that you’ll need. And if not, you can always buy biotin cheap at walmart. Just another option, you know.
Please ask Thibs if walnuts would not be a better choice instead of cashews or almonds (the 1/2 cup that he has you munching on with a meal). Just curious…
Soak almonds or walnuts in water overnight. Drain and try them the next day.
Please ask Thibs if walnuts would not be a better choice instead of cashews or almonds (the 1/2 cup that he has you munching on with a meal). Just curious…
Soak almonds or walnuts in water overnight. Drain and try them the next day.[/quote]
Walnuts have much less protein than almonds (almost 50% less) and more fat. However they do provide less carbs, which might make them useful if one is on a low-carbs diet.
Is that you in your avatar? If so, you don’t look small at all.
Good luck in your journey. And keep us updated. I love hearing from other guys following along, both in workouts and diet.[/quote]
lol, no, that is a pic of Fedor Emelianenko. He is regarded as the #1 fighter in the world. He has yet to fight in the UFC because they wont pay him enough. UFC Champ Randy Couture actually has left the UFC just so he can fight him in the future.
Im actually just a tall skinny guy. I started yesterday. The diet is hard, I felt like puking quite a few times. Today is my first day of lifting, Im going in to do Chest and Biceps. Its cool to copy/paste the workouts you are sent. I know he got mad that you did that on the main PC blog, but maybe you could post them on this thread for us.
[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
Serd wrote:
yes, there is a protein in egg whites called AVIDIN that binds to biotin and doesn’t allow it to be absorped properly.
True, but if you half a simi-decent multi vitamin, it usually contains all that you’ll need. And if not, you can always buy biotin cheap at walmart. Just another option, you know.[/quote]
If you half a semi-decednt multi vitamin, it contains ALL THAT YOU NEED? Um no. You cant trust the bioavailabitity of most vitamins on today’s market. Vitamins are absorbed better in their natural form except for folate (folic acid) which is better absorbed synthetically.
There are plenty of other food sources that you could eat to supply your body with enough biotin, such as liver. Plus biotin is also synthesized in the gut.
How are you feeling about the 14 lbs you gained and that 4lbs is fat? --I’m asking b/c I had originally gained about 14 lbs by taking Muscle Milk but stopped, b/c I was gaining about 30% of it in fat. I switched protein powders and reduced my fat, so now I fluctuate 1-2% bodyfat and gain it as muscle, albeit slowly–so the fat % to my weight gain would be like ~10%?
–Do you feel you have lost mobility? How many inches did you gain in your waist?
Is Coach CT trying to get you to gain a lot of weight and then put you on a diet b/c it’s faster and visually shows better results? Hope you don’t take this as an insult, I’m just wondering how you feel. Thanks!