You have mentioned how difficult it is to take in decent amounts of water above and beyond all the shakes you are ingesting. I don’t recall coach directing you to drink a lot of water. Was this a directive that slipped my mind.
It seems you take in adequate water from shakes alone. Extra water would seem to serve only to reduce your capacity to eat solids or enjoy your shakes.
[quote]Black Cat wrote:
You have mentioned how difficult it is to take in decent amounts of water above and beyond all the shakes you are ingesting. I don’t recall coach directing you to drink a lot of water. Was this a directive that slipped my mind.
It seems you take in adequate water from shakes alone. Extra water would seem to serve only to reduce your capacity to eat solids or enjoy your shakes.[/quote]
I just know, having a wife that’s been an ER nurse for a while now, that a high protein diet can be hard on the kidneys. And we all know that I’m eating enough protein to feed a small family! This is where that came from.
Plus, if you’re following the diet to a ‘T’, and you didn’t drink any more water in addition to what you mix in shakes, I’d be surprised if you made it past the first week, let alone the first couple of days without WANTING to drink any more water. I pretty much thirst for water, especially after workouts, which really sucks now because I work out so late at night and try not to drink too much so that I don’t have to wake up in the middle of the night to take a piss.
I’ve been a pretty good water drinker since before the program, so it may come from that as well.
[quote]spunout wrote:
Why one the home page does it say Physique Clinic Counselors Shugart and Waterbury? Is Waterbury taking Thib’s place or has anyone else noticed this?
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Coach Thibs left a post on my PC saying he had to be out for the weekend. Maybe it was because of that? I dunno. . .
No, I think CW is only on board for Gus’s V-Diet PC. So, if it showed CW it was because Gus’s photo was up - which I noticed, too.
[quote]USCTrojan619 wrote:
Black Cat wrote:
You have mentioned how difficult it is to take in decent amounts
I just know, having a wife that’s been an ER nurse for a while now, that a high protein diet can be hard on the kidneys. And we all know that I’m eating enough protein to feed a small family! This is where that came from.
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I thought a high protein intake effecting the kidneys was bunk? I thought those studies were done on people with poorly functioning kidneys and did not apply to healthy individuals.
Best of luck to you, and this is coming from a Notre Dame fan! One comment on the mental side of gaining weight and muscle. You have to believe that you can eat more and not allow yourself to believe that you have a hard time eating so much food, or that you have to overcome your genetics. My friend says that all the time, that he just has bad genes because his mom and dad are thin. He’s been saying that for 9 years and hasn’t really added any weight since I’ve know him. Don’t limit your belief of what your body can accomplish.
[quote]Lardo wrote:
I thought a high protein intake effecting the kidneys was bunk? I thought those studies were done on people with poorly functioning kidneys and did not apply to healthy individuals.[/quote]
Well, even if it is, it makes her feel better about what I’m doing. She thinks I don’t need to use supplements, and I’ve never used this much in my life. So if it makes it easier for her, then it makes it easy on me.
Plus, like I said, I can’t help but to WANT to drink more water on this diet.
The whole digestive enzyme idea is new to me, I never knew they were so common, and it gives me some confidence to know that CT is using them. You think you’d use them if you could get ahold of a decent brand, Trojan?
How about anyone else - do you use them? And do you find that they are worth using consistently?
I’ve been using digestive enzymes for more than 6 months and I like them. I have low amylase levels so any carbs I do eat give me crazy gas. The enzymes definitely help with that.
[quote]Burst wrote:
The whole digestive enzyme idea is new to me, I never knew they were so common, and it gives me some confidence to know that CT is using them. You think you’d use them if you could get ahold of a decent brand, Trojan?
How about anyone else - do you use them? And do you find that they are worth using consistently?[/quote]
I’m definitely thinking about it, and will more than likely use the one he recommends (obviously, haha).
I know the diet will be changing within the next week, and I know for sure that’ll mean MORE food.
There’s a few others who swear by enzymes, and have recommended what seem to be really good ones as well within this thread a few pages back.
usctrojan,
are you still doing tempo lifting? 4sec eccentric and explosive concentric?
I also read that high protein diet is bad for your kidneys was debunked. I think Dr. John Berardi wrote an article on this website about it. Also, I think it is great you drink a lot of water it has numerous health benefits.
Keep up the good work,
teebone2223
I checked the pages and found the Omegazyme by Garden of Life and then the other one was essentially the same as CT’s recommendation. So these enzymes, while helping with digestion, also help you get the most out of your food, is that right? Like, if you haven’t been absorbing all of the protein from your diet, this might help you absorb more?
I wonder though, does taking these enzymes consistently provoke negative feedback? That is, if I take the enzymes consistently for a long period of time and then stop, will that have made my the enzymes in my own body less efficient? Does anyone have evidence to disprove this?
USC, why isn’t there any milk in your diet?
[quote]wooldog wrote:
USC, why isn’t there any milk in your diet?[/quote]
It wasn’t mentioned in my PC, but you can read Coach Thibs thoughts about milk in one of the women’s PCs. I believe her name was LittleJo that I read it in.
[quote]teebone2223 wrote:
usctrojan,
are you still doing tempo lifting? 4sec eccentric and explosive concentric?
I also read that high protein diet is bad for your kidneys was debunked. I think Dr. John Berardi wrote an article on this website about it. Also, I think it is great you drink a lot of water it has numerous health benefits.
Keep up the good work,
teebone2223[/quote]
Yup, but read Coach Thibs thoughts on the tempos. Yes, it is a guideline, but don’t put your concentration on making sure you lower the weight a particular number of seconds, etc. If my intensity is through the roof, then lowering the weight under control, and exploding when lifting is good for him.
for the romanian deadlifts how long do u rest before doing the second portion of the set
[quote]daffyduck wrote:
for the romanian deadlifts how long do u rest before doing the second portion of the set[/quote]
daffy,
The adjustments for this and all exercises are posted in this thread for everyone to see.
For the Romanians, I do 8-10 reps to failure, rest 10-12 seconds, and then hit up the same weight to failure. That completes the first set.
The rest period is 120 seconds, and then I do the same thing over again, for a total of two sets altogether.
USC is taking one scoop Surge recovery and one scoop Surge fuel (I think that’s what it’s called)
Has anyone heard of a substitute for the Surge fuel? I am taking Surge recovery to replace the fuel but I was wondering if there was something I should add or take instead of the second serving of Surge recovery. Sorry if this was addressed already. I was DAMN near barfing after downing my third shake. Chocolate Surge is out for a while…
USC,
For this exercise:
Press: Flat bench - Barbell - Wide grip
Are you using the Smith machine? I had to jump way down to about 95 lbs because I moved over to the free weights with no spot.
Hey USC & Physique Clinic followers,
I came accross this info on water intake:
Friday » January 18 » 2008
Drinking too much water called latest threat to health
Canadian doctors detect increased risk of kidney failure, damage to tiny arteries
SHARON KIRKEY
Canwest News Service
Friday, January 18, 2008
Canadian doctors are warning drinking too much water may cause loss of kidney function - something they discovered purely by accident.
Researchers have been studying the health of residents of Walkerton, Ont., since the water supply was contaminated with E. coli in 2000. They identified 100 otherwise healthy adults who had a condition called proteinuria, or abnormal amounts of protein in their urine.
None had any medical conditions or were on medications that would explain why.
Proteinuria can cause kidney failure and is a sign of microvascular disease, where the heart’s tiny arteries are damaged, causing cardiac disease and death.
Of the 100 people, 56 agreed to follow-up testing and to reduce their fluid intake to fewer than eight large glasses per day for one week. The result? The cases of proteinuria were “largely reversed.”
“When we were in Walkerton we were surprised that almost five per cent of the population were drinking very large volumes of fluid,” said Dr. William Clark, a scientist at Lawson Health Research Institute in London, Ont., and professor of medicine at the University of Western Ontario.
“We went on the supposition that this must be because of the water contamination,” meaning that when people moved to bottled water, they drank more. But Clark, project leader of the Walkerton Health Study, said most admitted to drinking vast amounts of water even before the contamination crisis, ostensibly for health reasons.
They were drinking, on average, at least four litres per day. “That would be about 18 large glasses of fluid per day,” he said.
Some people were drinking six litres. One woman, a health-care worker, was drinking eight.
“They didn’t like it when we asked them to reduce their fluid intake, although they did do it,” Clark said. “Most corrected their kidney abnormality. Some did not correct completely, meaning they may have a permanent bit of damage.”
The study is published in this week’s issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal.
“If you go on the Internet you’ll get at least 500 hits on how healthy it is to drink as much water as humanly possible,” Clark said. “Some health magazines recommend people drink a minimum of 12 to 15 glasses of fluid per day.”
But Clark said flushing the kidneys doesn’t help kidney function.
Even doctors believe the medical myth that people should drink at least eight glasses of water a day, according to an article published last month in the British Medical Journal, which traced the notion back to a 1945 recommendation from the U.S. Nutrition Council.
Ignored in the original statement was that most of the fluid people need is found in food, especially fruits and vegetables, the researchers said.
Clark’s team has been screening the population of Walkerton to track for health syndromes associated with E. coli damage. The big, silent problem is kidney damage.
The researchers measured urine protein levels from 2,253 adults who later attended a follow-up clinic annually between 2003 and 2005.
Clark noticed many had increased protein excretion in the urine. The condition causes progressive loss of kidney function.
After excluding diabetes or any other explanation for the problem, “we still ended up with 100 people who had no explanation whatsoever,” he said. On average, they were excreting almost three times the normal rate.
Treatment was simple, Clark said. “When they drank less water, the problem went away.”
“This was something we’ve never conceived of. It’s not reported anywhere,” Clark said.
And he doesn’t think the data is unique to Walkerton. “We’re drinking lots of water, and people think it’s healthy.”
“We would recommend until we know better that maybe eight glasses of fluid a day is fine but probably less than six is better, unless you’re in a very arid climate or carrying out marathon running or massive exertion or have a particular kind of kidney damage and you lose salt.”
Fluid means “all fluids,” including coffee, tea and juice.
What’s not known is “whether the proteinuria associated with excessive fluid intake in these otherwise healthy people will affect their kidney function in the long term,” the researchers wrote in this week’s journal article.
© The Gazette (Montreal) 2008
Copyright © 2008 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc… All rights reserved.
[quote]USCTrojan619 wrote:
wooldog wrote:
USC, why isn’t there any milk in your diet?
It wasn’t mentioned in my PC, but you can read Coach Thibs thoughts about milk in one of the women’s PCs. I believe her name was LittleJo that I read it in. [/quote]
What about cookies? I noticed there are no cookies (or any deserts for that matter) in your diet. For ectos like us, is it really necessary to eat so clean? Would you mind asking Coach Thibs that?
Thanks.
wooldog