Haha we may have been bitching about college football I don’t remember either.
Thanks so much for the kind words man, I’m glad I’m able to help out!
Haha I just wish my body would show as much progress as yours in that short time period!
Keep kicking ass man!
Do you mix the Egg stuff in your protein drink in the morning? If not, how do you eat it?
[quote]USCTrojan619 wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:
I am pretty impressed with the detail of your posts. I keep wanting to ask something but then you go and answer it before I can.
Although, unless I missed it somewhere, I would interested in seeing a list of groceries that you buy for a week, ie 20 Oranges, 4 Pineapple, 6 Broccoli, etc.
Thanks in advance and keep at it.
Thanks for that MrZsasz. I know how it was being on that end when bizarre was the guy, so I want to do my best to keep things updated, and questions answered.
Good advice on the grocery deal. I don’t know why I never thought about including that in there! Duh! I usually just said “stopped by the grocery store” but never really broke it down. I’ll put the total cost as well after each trip.
Thanks man![/quote]
I wasn’t even looking for the cost. I just sometimes get lost while reading through your posts and would like to see the Big Picture when it comes to your grocery shopping. See, that’s what you get for being so detailed and thorough.
Also, I thought for all the ones following along with you, it might give a nice summary of exactly what they should pick up at the store.
hey, this is actually my very first post on T-Nation, although i have been following along with your progress.
First off, id like to say that you are doing great, with all the questions you ask and the updates you make. It keeps things interesting and fresh for us.
Your updated pictures look awesome! You look like u are shaped much better now, and a bit less bodyfat. For 12 days, that is really, really good.
Im also glad the food has been going down easier for you. I found that if I ate faster, then I could fit more into my stomache before my body tells me that I am full. I of course, feel full about 10 minutes later, but this way helps me get in the extra food.
Maybe you can try that if u are having a tough time later on when CT increases your food intake. Anyways, good luck, ill be waiting for all your updates!
Well also being an ecto and in between workout programs I decided to follow this PC mirror the workouts and diet to see what I could accomplish. Well last night was the first workout and all I can say is FUCK!!!
By the time I got to the hammer curls I could barely lift my arms much less holding dumbells and lift my arms…I may change a few things with the workout because I workout alone. Like the BB flat bench…not a good idea by yourself so next week I may switch it to DB bench instead. So far this program is a BITCH but I kind of like it.
[quote]Chaz23 wrote:
Do you mix the Egg stuff in your protein drink in the morning? If not, how do you eat it?[/quote]
It’s funny you ask that, because I actually did cook them that very first day on the diet. It was HARD to put down. I would NOT recommend doing it that way.
Coach Thibs told me that I could just throw it in w/ my morning Metabolic Drive Complete (since its pasteurized egg whites that I’m using). Makes it WAAAAY better. I thought it would taste nasty and would give me shitz for days, but my stomach does just fine, and it tastes just like the Metabolic Drive.
[quote]spunout wrote:
Like the BB flat bench…not a good idea by yourself so next week I may switch it to DB bench instead.[/quote]
I love BB benching solo, it reminds you that yes, you WILL get this next rep! Courting death is my motivation for going to the gym. Fear nothing, risk everything!
-Sab
[quote]Cheaptrick wrote:
Im also glad the food has been going down easier for you. I found that if I ate faster, then I could fit more into my stomache before my body tells me that I am full. I of course, feel full about 10 minutes later, but this way helps me get in the extra food.
Maybe you can try that if u are having a tough time later on when CT increases your food intake. Anyways, good luck, ill be waiting for all your updates![/quote]
Yeah, somebody brought this up too. I can eat pretty fast when it comes to the fruits and veggies, but as soon as I hit the whole protein, that’s where it gets tough (literally sometimes), unless I’m unusually hungry.
[quote]spunout wrote:
Well also being an ecto and in between workout programs I decided to follow this PC mirror the workouts and diet to see what I could accomplish. Well last night was the first workout and all I can say is FUCK!!!
By the time I got to the hammer curls I could barely lift my arms much less holding dumbells and lift my arms…I may change a few things with the workout because I workout alone. Like the BB flat bench…not a good idea by yourself so next week I may switch it to DB bench instead. So far this program is a BITCH but I kind of like it.[/quote]
I left a comment on this post earlier today, but for some reason, I don’t see it anywhere.
Congrats on trying the workouts–they are the HARDEST thing I’ve ever done. Usually, I’d only sweat the way I am now during leg days. Now, it has become every workout day!
I know what you mean about the hammer curls. It sucks to only be curling 10s and 15s, but if they only knew what I was doing before then!!!
As far as the BB flat bench goes, I’ve been fortunate enough to workout w/ my older bro here. In the next week, I’ll be working out all by myself. I’m hoping my gym at home will have a power rack as well, and that’s what I’ll use. Nothing can mimic the feeling I get from the BB, so I’d still like to use it. I’ll just set up the safety pins just outside my range of motion, but before the BB would kill me if I can’t get it up, then I can just go to town.
Try it out the next time you go to the gym to get used to it.
Like Cheaptrick, this is also my first post on a T-Nation forum, but I’ve been visiting for a little over half a year.
There’s been one question I’ve always wanted to know the answer to; should an ecto trying to gain mass sacrifice quality for quantity in single, isolated situations. For example, I play basketball, and during away trips we sometimes stop at small convenience stores or fast food restaurants as a team. During these stops, should I opt out of eating (even when I’m hungry), or should I suck it up and get something?
Even worse than the fast food, when you can often get some chicken and a potato, is when you hit the convenience store. Should I go for those processed meat subs sitting in the coolers, or should I just opt out of eating? Missing meals seems like a no-no to me, and often times it would be another hour before I could eat.
I’m not looking for a “don’t let that happen, plan ahead” type of deal, as sometimes it is unavoidable. I do pack snacks, but if you go through them and need something else, is it worth it to buy something that isn’t entirely healthy?
[quote]DaveForner wrote:
Like Cheaptrick, this is also my first post on a T-Nation forum, but I’ve been visiting for a little over half a year.
There’s been one question I’ve always wanted to know the answer to; should an ecto trying to gain mass sacrifice quality for quantity in single, isolated situations. For example, I play basketball, and during away trips we sometimes stop at small convenience stores or fast food restaurants as a team. During these stops, should I opt out of eating (even when I’m hungry), or should I suck it up and get something?
Even worse than the fast food, when you can often get some chicken and a potato, is when you hit the convenience store. Should I go for those processed meat subs sitting in the coolers, or should I just opt out of eating? Missing meals seems like a no-no to me, and often times it would be another hour before I could eat.
I’m not looking for a “don’t let that happen, plan ahead” type of deal, as sometimes it is unavoidable. I do pack snacks, but if you go through them and need something else, is it worth it to buy something that isn’t entirely healthy?[/quote]
In my opinion if you are real slim your first goal should be getting extra calories. I was once super thin as well, and I ate like a pig to gain weight. I wouldn’t recomend eating complete junk all the time, but I think if you have to choose between eating a hamburger or missing a meal I would choose a hamburger.
Though common sense must be used as well. Eating chocolate bars for calories is not a good method (though if you are super slim I would say a candy bar here and there wouldn’t kill you).
Anyhow I went from about 150 to 220, now I’m cutting down because I did pack on too much body fat. Now I really have to watch what I eat.
I had a question about your leg day workout. How do you go to failure on excercises like the hack squat? Do you have to routinely climb out of the sled, take off plates, then push it back up? The only way I see it possible to fail is “in the hole.”
Also, on the romanian dl’s, since there are so many muscles involved, do you just have to pay attention as to when the hamstrings fail and the back starts to take over most of the load? or do you use enough wait to where you cant possibly lift the bar at all by the end of the set?
Just wanted to know before I start the workout myself. Thanks and good luck!
Hey man, I noticed you’re a big fan of Mrs. Dash, so I picked some up at the grocery store today. I kinda sauteed some lean chicken breast in oil and some Mrs. Dash (original) in a frying pan. It was alright, but do you have any favorite recipes or tips on how to cook with it? Keep in mind that as a college student I have two burners and a microwave, no oven.
great progess so far, USC!
one quick question, what’s the macronutrient breakdown of your diet? you seem to really struggle with getting a ton of calories in each day–was just wondering how many calories you’re actually ingesting to get the kind of good progress you’re seeing.
usctrojan,
just wondering how long your rest periods between your sets were?
thanks,
teebone2223
[quote]ravell wrote:
I had a question about your leg day workout. How do you go to failure on excercises like the hack squat? Do you have to routinely climb out of the sled, take off plates, then push it back up? The only way I see it possible to fail is “in the hole.”[/quote]
I’ve always had to literally push with everything I’ve got left on every last rep I make. I pretty much know I’m done once I even start the motion to go down again that I can’t make it.
[quote]ravell wrote:
Also, on the romanian dl’s, since there are so many muscles involved, do you just have to pay attention as to when the hamstrings fail and the back starts to take over most of the load? or do you use enough wait to where you cant possibly lift the bar at all by the end of the set?[/quote]
I do it until I can’t do anymore; I literally cannot pick up the bar w/o puking my guts out. By this time, my stomach is so full of SURGE and water that doing this exercise at the very end is damn near torture.
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
Hey man, I noticed you’re a big fan of Mrs. Dash, so I picked some up at the grocery store today. I kinda sauteed some lean chicken breast in oil and some Mrs. Dash (original) in a frying pan. It was alright, but do you have any favorite recipes or tips on how to cook with it? Keep in mind that as a college student I have two burners and a microwave, no oven. [/quote]
That’s pretty much all you’re going to get IMHO, is alright. I have a George Foreman grill, and all I do is put Mrs.Dash on both sides of the chicken breast, and grill it on the GF. It just adds a little flavor to it (better than a plain chicken breast), but w/o any calories, salt, carbs, etc, which I can’t do.
For recipes or other tips, Coach Shug posted on my PC about ways to liven up chicken with spices and such, and a crock pot as well.
[quote]teebone2223 wrote:
usctrojan,
just wondering how long your rest periods between your sets were?
thanks,
teebone2223[/quote]
It states exactly how long the rest periods between sets should be on the workout plans Coach Thibs made for me. They’re either 90 or 120 seconds long. I actually time myself w/ a stop watch as well.
If you’re talking about between exercises, I’d say its pretty much the same. By the time I get to the next exercise and get set-up, I hit it right away, and is usually within 90-120 seconds, maybe a little longer if what I need is being used.
BTW, the entire workout plan I’m on has been posted w/ all those numbers you need.
Why one the home page does it say Physique Clinic Counselors Shugart and Waterbury? Is Waterbury taking Thib’s place or has anyone else noticed this?
And now it says Thib again…