Hey bizarre, I go to SDSU as well. Perchance before December is over we could do a squat workout together. You can do whatever Thibs has for you but, I would squat. Be interested in meeting you dude.
[quote]mithious wrote:
Come on dude…
Seems to me like you’re just making excuses. (I can imagine you raising your eyebrows and thinking “you try going to medical school a**hole…”)
But seriously, people do not succeed at these type of challenges because they will always find something that gets in the way of their goal.
If it’s not medical school, then it would have been something else, perhaps.
I have finals as well right now, which are even more challenging because I am dealing with a medical condition and an anxiety disorder. But I still have time to study, ace my exams, train like a mo’fo, log everything I do in detail, inspire my training partner, and spend extra time writing this post.
However, no offense, but I think you have your mind made up to fail, so I have no words of encouragement.
Perhaps you should step aside and let someone else take your place who is motivated.[/quote]
Sounds like someone’s jealous.
lol bizarre. If CT wanted you to eat more blueberries, he would’ve wrote that in your diet. If CT wanted you to do power cleans, he would’ve wrote that into your training schedule. If CT wanted you to take it easy on loading parameters so you could always maintain perfect form or coddle an elbow that hurts a little bit, he wouldn’t have wrote
“With this type of training you basically gotta become berserk for 40 minutes! If you intend to socialize or only give it a 90% effort, better not show up.”
I really don’t think you have the drive to succeed at this, but I’m hoping you prove me wrong. Good luck.
In fact, CT liked the fact that I ate more blueberries, and he also though that Power cleans were a good idea. I only asked b/c I am here to not only change the way I look, but also LEARN. It’s a really cool thing. And since I coddled my elbow “a very little bit”, I can now train 150%!!! And having perfect form is important no matter what you do. Imperfect form will increase the chance of muscle imbalance, posterior chain problems, injury and more(it will also make you look like an idiot in the gym).
Like I said, it’s fun to learn and read. I suggest it. And in terms of going berserk for 40 minutes, I have made it a point of bringing a bucket to the gym for the reason that I am training so hard and might puke. So yeah, if you feel that there is a problem with askiing questions or learning a little bit from this Physique Clinic, then I don’t know. The PC is not just about changing the way you look, but helping people. By teaching them how to train, how to diet. And if through my mistakes people can succeed more and train better then shit, I will make mistakes all the live long day.
However, I WANT to succeed in this Clinic more than anything, so thanks for the luck, but lets be honest, luck isn’t gonna get shit done. Sweat, blood, tears, sacrifice, and pain is what is going to get it done. And it is getting done!!!
Bizarre:
If u perform those reps with spotter help you are not performing those reps!.
Without a partner, it’s imposible to perform 7 reps after only 10’’ rest. You hardly could do 1-2 reps by yourself.
[quote]Spanish Barbell wrote:
Bizarre:
If u perform those reps with spotter help you are not performing those reps!.
Without a partner, it’s imposible to perform 7 reps after only 10’’ rest. You hardly could do 1-2 reps by yourself.
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People can do different rep ranges with different muscle fibre make ups. Just because you can’t do more than 2 reps doesn’t mean bizarre can’t.
Start being a bit more open minded on how different people do/need different things.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Spanish Barbell wrote:
Bizarre:
If u perform those reps with spotter help you are not performing those reps!.
Without a partner, it’s imposible to perform 7 reps after only 10’’ rest. You hardly could do 1-2 reps by yourself.
People can do different rep ranges with different muscle fibre make ups. Just because you can’t do more than 2 reps doesn’t mean bizarre can’t.
Start being a bit more open minded on how different people do/need different things.[/quote]
I’m following this workout plan, and I can pull 8 reps to failure, rest 10s, and hit another 7. It’s an all-out psychological war, you have got to shut out the pain and focus on form. Once the form breaks down, that’s “failure”.
If you focus on your pain, sure you’ll only get 1 or 2. Or if you go to TRUE failure, throwing and twisting yourself to cheat out another rep, you’ll just get injured, and sure you’ll only get 1 or 2.
Bottom line it’s all about going beyond your limitations, the numbers don’t mean shit.
-Sab
Bottom line: If you are going to true failure and get 8 reps, and then rest no more than 10 seconds and you get 7 reps, there is NO WAY that you really went hard on that first set.
Hey Bizarre,
keep up the good work! and guys, I think having Thibs and Shugs on your back is enough and some encouragements would probably be greatly appreciated.
Anyway, I was wondering if you could provide us with the tempos of your workout… maybe you could edit your previous postings or just copy paste the workout with the tempos…
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the tempos Biz!
On your drop sets, isn’t the weight being used adjusted as the set progresses past certain failure points? Right now, I’m only seeing a single weight mentioned. I think it would be better to list out the load used for each set, if it is indeed changing.
For example, your current format of:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Wt. 100 lbs
Set1 reps: 8,5,6,6,6,6
Set2 reps: 7,4,6,6,5,5
DROPS
Would become something like:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Set1 wt(lbs)Xreps: 100x8,100x5,50x6,50x6,25x6,25x6
Set2 wt(lbs)Xreps: 100x7,100x4,50x6,50x6,25x5,25x5
DROPS
Or:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Set1 reps: 8,5,6,6,6,6
Set2 reps: 7,4,6,6,5,5
Set1 wt(lbs): 100,100,50,50,25,25
Set2 wt(lbs): 100,100,50,50,25,25
DROPS
[quote]distinctMurMur wrote:
On your drop sets, isn’t the weight being used adjusted as the set progresses past certain failure points? Right now, I’m only seeing a single weight mentioned. I think it would be better to list out the load used for each set, if it is indeed changing.
For example, your current format of:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Wt. 100 lbs
Set1 reps: 8,5,6,6,6,6
Set2 reps: 7,4,6,6,5,5
DROPS
Would become something like:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Set1 wt(lbs)Xreps: 100x8,100x5,50x6,50x6,25x6,25x6
Set2 wt(lbs)Xreps: 100x7,100x4,50x6,50x6,25x5,25x5
DROPS
Or:
A. T-Bar Rowing Chest Supported 2 sets 120 secs rest
Tempo: 2-0-1-2 6-8 reps
Set1 reps: 8,5,6,6,6,6
Set2 reps: 7,4,6,6,5,5
Set1 wt(lbs): 100,100,50,50,25,25
Set2 wt(lbs): 100,100,50,50,25,25
DROPS
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Yes, I absolutely agree with your methodology, I belive it will clear up some misconceptions of Bizarre’s training.
[quote]Sabastian525 wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
Spanish Barbell wrote:
Bizarre:
If u perform those reps with spotter help you are not performing those reps!.
Without a partner, it’s imposible to perform 7 reps after only 10’’ rest. You hardly could do 1-2 reps by yourself.
People can do different rep ranges with different muscle fibre make ups. Just because you can’t do more than 2 reps doesn’t mean bizarre can’t.
Start being a bit more open minded on how different people do/need different things.
I’m following this workout plan, and I can pull 8 reps to failure, rest 10s, and hit another 7. It’s an all-out psychological war, you have got to shut out the pain and focus on form. Once the form breaks down, that’s “failure”.
If you focus on your pain, sure you’ll only get 1 or 2. Or if you go to TRUE failure, throwing and twisting yourself to cheat out another rep, you’ll just get injured, and sure you’ll only get 1 or 2.
Bottom line it’s all about going beyond your limitations, the numbers don’t mean shit.
-Sab[/quote]
Even talking about a guy with slow-twitch dominant physique, it’s IMPOSIBLE to recovery enough muscle fibers after only 10’’ to perform the same (or almost) reps that in the 1st “set”.
When u go to real failure it takes much more time to CNS and metabolic recovery.
[quote]Spanish Barbell wrote:
Even talking about a guy with slow-twitch dominant physique, it’s IMPOSIBLE to recovery enough muscle fibers after only 10’’ to perform the same (or almost) reps that in the 1st “set”.
When u go to real failure it takes much more time to CNS and metabolic recovery.[/quote]
Yup. Check out my training log. In pullups for example, I was able to do 8, 1, 1 and 2 partials on the first set making sure I go to failure on every leg (think Arthur Jones failure). Even after 2 minutes of rest, my second set went 3, 1, 1 and 3 partials. Just by going all out on that first leg of the first set, I lost it.
EDIT**
just wondering how things are going?
It was gorgeous here in San Diego today
I didn’t post the drop weights just b/c I thought it was evident as to the weight being used. Just as you described it would go something like:
100x8, 100x5, 50x6, 50x6, 25x6, 25x6
I didn’t think it required much explanation, but if you like I will start posting every weight that I use.
[quote]bizarre wrote:
I didn’t post the drop weights just b/c I thought it was evident as to the weight being used. Just as you described it would go something like:
100x8, 100x5, 50x6, 50x6, 50x6, 50x6
I didn’t think it required much explanation, but if you like I will start posting every weight that I use.
[/quote]
Please don’t take umbrage.
Speaking for myself, I was under the impression you would be posting your ACTUAL diet, weights, reps/sets in detail daily as your part in participating in this Clinic. I thought that was the give and take of you being given this opportunity, it is giving us a chance to follow your daily progress.
Not just saying, “same as yesterday” or I lifted.
I am completely unfamiliar with drop weights so thank you for posting them.
detail will be better starting tomorrow. Last final!!! Sorry for the lack of details people. I just needed these past few days. I know most of you don’t approve of me in this clinic, but I will prove to you that I do belong here.
Hey man,
Hope your finals all went well. Talk to you soon.
[quote]bizarre wrote:
I know most of you don’t approve of me in this clinic,[/quote]
Prove us wrong.