[quote]greatgro wrote:
FairDo wrote:
I realize that there are some REALLY GOOD guys out there. I only wish there were more of them.
Problem is that industry does not encourage knowledge and real professionalism. Very often Instructors and Personal Trainers are recruited for the certain “type of personality” (read: willingness to kiss members’ bums maintaining a big grin on their faces) and NOT for their knowledge, expertise and skills.
Put it differently, these guys are in demand and searched for.
Sad state of affairs.
Regards,
Actually, the reason why most trainers in gyms suck, is because they get paid peanuts. One of the big chains in my area charges $70-80 per session depending on the package size. How much do you think the trainer gets? $30? $25? Try $12. That’s right, $12 to start!!! I think if they are there a bunch of years and get X number of certification and degrees they can get $20 per hour.
So the reality is, if you are any good, you’re going to work for a high-level private facility or you’re going to work on your own and train in people’s homes. The better trainers do this and that’s why you never see them. They’re not in the commercial gym b/c most trainers in the gyms are only making $15-30k a year. I know in Jersey, you can’t even afford a one-bedroom apartment on less than $30k a year!
The only people that are trainers in gyms are either just starting out (not experienced or very knowledgeable), not very good (if they were good they’d have a large following and work for themselves charging $70 or more per hour) or they’re just doing it until they find something else or until they graduate from school (which again means they aren’t very good or knowledgeable).
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Beleive it or not…but some gyms give awards or kudos to the personal trainer of the month, year based on sales. I personally think that this is a joke…I have seen pt’s who do the dumbest shit but they can sell, and are in high demand ,while the pt with the best sense is out the door. I find this absolutley laughable. Welcome to the fitness industry. Sorry for the spelling mistakes
You’re exactly right. Even with it’s not steroids, many trainers are bodybuilders who compete and are genetically gifted in which case, EVERYTHING works for them. They become trainers b/c 1) They think they know everything about working out since everything they do works, and 2) they can make money doing something they love doing - hanging out in a gym all day.
Many times (most times actually) the best teachers can’t do it as well themselves. That’s how they became so knowledgeable b/c the things that work for most people didn’t work for them. So they had to study and learn about the body, read about every type of training and learn everything there is to learn about nutrition b/c without it, they couldn’t make any gains. Those are the guys that are the best instructors/trainers. That’s how I got my start.[/quote]
Yeah, those big bodybuilding guys don’t know shit! They don’t have to be knowledgeable because everything works for them! It’s all genetics…
Is anyone else sick of this bullshit excuse or is it just me?
That’s a new and definitely good point here!
Totaly agree, PT’s are supposed to be “THE ONEs” within any centre (or rather are allegedly), those with greater and more thorough knowledge - in comparison to ordinary instructors (at least this is the way it works in UK). And that “status” makes them cocky and arrogant to say the least.
However, what REALLY bugs me, is the fact that they (majority of them) totally ignore everybody who is not their “prospect”.
It does not matter that that someone is wracking his/her shoulders on lat pull-down or screws up something else performing some crazy, not seen before movement, but NO way PT is going to stop by, have a chat, correct, help out (for free).
Not in a million years!
Thanks for bringing this one!
It’s been years since I worked in a commercial facility, but I remember people being particularly rude because they thought they knew what they were doing.
Besides, does your doctor operate on you for free?
With full respect, but this is BS!!!
according to the Socrates oath, “every effort should be made to keep a patient alive regardless of his physical ailment or condition”
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Nice Hanley I glanced by Socrates Oath and it didn’t click. OK I am going to ponder the rest of the site using the Hippocratic Method. I’ll let you know what I come up with
[quote]gojira wrote:
slotan wrote:
“Badness” #3
Being a complete retard.
Couldn’t resist But most of them really are!
Badness #4 - having all clients do the same workout regardless of their goals.
Badness #5 - Not pushing clients hard enough. I’m sorry, but if you’re able to hold a conversation while doing your set, you’re not working hard enough.
collars?
Badness #6 - Falling for trends and having everyone use the new gimmick piece of equipment instead of squatting or deadlifting.
Badness #7 - Not using collars. WTF is it with trainers never using collars?
Badness #8 - (I’m on a roll now) Trying to train four clients at once and using six different pieces of equipment while doing it.
[quote]FairDo wrote:
vroom wrote:
Big rude and ignoring everyone that isn’t paying them.
I’m not looking to get into a conversation, and I don’t want any advice, but since I see these people more than I see my family, a nod or a “hey” wouldn’t be out of place.
That’s a new and definitely good point here!
Totaly agree, PT’s are supposed to be “THE ONEs” within any centre (or rather are allegedly), those with greater and more thorough knowledge - in comparison to ordinary instructors (at least this is the way it works in UK). And that “status” makes them cocky and arrogant to say the least.
However, what REALLY bugs me, is the fact that they (majority of them) totally ignore everybody who is not their “prospect”.
It does not matter that that someone is wracking his/her shoulders on lat pull-down or screws up something else performing some crazy, not seen before movement, but NO way PT is going to stop by, have a chat, correct, help out (for free).
Not in a million years!
Thanks for bringing this one!
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i trained at a public gym… i hate those cookie cutter programs… i always did different shit and was known as the circus act because i was able to do squats on the swiss ball… and the funniest shit was that they had a glute ham raise machine and everybody used it as a hyperextension machine… well i taught a couple people what it was used for… the head trainer heard about this and says “chris doesn’t know what he’s talkin about, thats not what its used for” fuckin hilarious… i was fired two weeks later
i trained at a public gym… i hate those cookie cutter programs… i always did different shit and was known as the circus act because i was able to do squats on the swiss ball… and the funniest shit was that they had a glute ham raise machine and everybody used it as a hyperextension machine… well i taught a couple people what it was used for… the head trainer heard about this and says “chris doesn’t know what he’s talkin about, thats not what its used for” fuckin hilarious… i was fired two weeks later
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yeah, that’s another one!!
you’ll get a sack when they see that you actually know something, train people in a good, innovative (comparred to them ) manner, and . . . are liked by members.
Haha i had something similar, with a deadlift hex bar, “its used for shrugs”
i work as an S&C coach but i train a few clients at a near by fitness first gym for convience, and the trainers have all these certs from WABBA, BWLA, BLABA, ASSA and godknows how many more, you tell them anything that was’nt on their ?300 quid course and its instantly wrong. the day i rolled in 3 200Kg tires for flipping outback, i got some interesting looks.
As was said before you get a good few, a mediocre many and worrying number that are dangerously under qualified
You’re exactly right. Even with it’s not steroids, many trainers are bodybuilders who compete and are genetically gifted in which case, EVERYTHING works for them. They become trainers b/c 1) They think they know everything about working out since everything they do works, and 2) they can make money doing something they love doing - hanging out in a gym all day.
Many times (most times actually) the best teachers can’t do it as well themselves. That’s how they became so knowledgeable b/c the things that work for most people didn’t work for them. So they had to study and learn about the body, read about every type of training and learn everything there is to learn about nutrition b/c without it, they couldn’t make any gains. Those are the guys that are the best instructors/trainers. That’s how I got my start.
Yeah, those big bodybuilding guys don’t know shit! They don’t have to be knowledgeable because everything works for them! It’s all genetics…
Is anyone else sick of this bullshit excuse or is it just me?
But most of them really are!