I don’t seem to be making any progress lately in both strength and muscle gains and believe its because during the night where I am without food for many hours my body is breaking down my muscle for fuel. It’s not like I am losing all my gains during 1 night BUT a couple nights of muscle loss puts me at nothing gained so when the next workout comes round, I am unable to add weight to the bar or do more reps.
I have a naturally VERY fast metabolism and need about 5000 calories a day to make gains and I’m thinking that while its somewhat slowed when I’m asleep its still going alot faster than the normal person. So when The last meal before bed big (cassein/milk/fat combo) has digested and been used up I am then in a catabolic state losing muscle at an accelerated rate.
The pattern I am noticing is I have a decent workout a few meals after I feel and look fuller/bigger and stronger then waking up next day whilst I am still bigger some has gone and I feel and look smaller and weaker, another sleep tonight will put me back to where I was before that workout it seems. So frustrating.
It’s like I take a step forward from a good workout and enough of the right foods afterwards then half a step back each night while I’m asleep. I have tried setting my alarm for the middle of the night and waking up to down a shake but I can’t seem to wake up properly and just turn my alarm off and go back to sleep. The couple of times i did manage to wake up I then couldnt fall back to sleep and felt like **** the next day.
Would really like to hear from anyone else with a naturally fast metabsolism do you have the same problem? Or just any advice anyone has about this would be good.
I am eating enough through the day, did you not read my post? I said I am noticing changes through the day. I am putting on a tiny bit of fat so obviously I am in enough of a calorie surplus when awake.
[quote]e55ex_b0y wrote:
I am eating enough through the day, did you not read my post? I said I am noticing changes through the day. I am putting on a tiny bit of fat so obviously I am in enough of a calorie surplus when awake. [/quote]
If you’re eating enough each day to gain fat, then you’re eating enough to retain muscle. The problem lies either in your training or in your expectations - not in your caloric intake.
you’re making it a lot more complicated then it needs to be. Stop looking for hourly changes in your physique. stick to monthly, or yearly. You’re not going to be able to add weight to the bar every session unless you just started lifting. Also don’t discount the change the post workout pump can make, esp. if you’re on the lean side. If you’re really worried about it have a casein shake before bed.
Chin ups
incline dumbell bench press
DB rows
Military press
Skull crushers
Squats
Monday- wednesday -friday
I do 3 sets in the 4-8 rep range, with great form none of tha swinging the weight around ego lifting bullshit.
Previously I was doing an upper lower split 2 on 1 off, but felt like the workouts for a body part were too far apart to retain gains so switched to the above, but still no progress.
What do you mean by my expectations are wrong? Are you telling me that the difference I see in the mirror and feel sevral hours after training when ive eaten a shit load of food are not gains?
[quote]matsm21 wrote:
you’re making it a lot more complicated then it needs to be. Stop looking for hourly changes in your physique. stick to monthly, or yearly. You’re not going to be able to add weight to the bar every session unless you just started lifting. Also don’t discount the change the post workout pump can make, esp. if you’re on the lean side. If you’re really worried about it have a casein shake before bed.[/quote]
If i cannot add weight or reps to the bar from workout to workout where is the stimulas for my body to grow? I take a cassein shake before bed, I have for years. Im not talking about that pump you get the 30 mins or so after a workout im talking like 6-9 hours after my workout when Ive eaten a crap load of food to promote growth…the changes I have then are what I dont seem to be able to retain through to the next day…then am smaller again the next day. ;(
“If i cannot add weight or reps to the bar from workout to workout where is the stimulas for my body to grow?”
by doing it again. that is the stimulus. If everyone was always able to add weight to the bar every session, everyone would be benching 600 lbs and squatting a grand. Unless you are an alien you are not losing muscle at night. It could be water weight, but most likely is in your head. stop looking in the mirror every day.
“If i cannot add weight or reps to the bar from workout to workout where is the stimulas for my body to grow?”
by doing it again. that is the stimulus. If everyone was always able to add weight to the bar every session, everyone would be benching 600 lbs and squatting a grand. Unless you are an alien you are not losing muscle at night. It could be water weight, but most likely is in your head. stop looking in the mirror every day.[/quote]
Sure its a stimulas, but one your bodys already adapted to, so how is doing what its already adapted to going to give your body a reason to adapt further (get bigger?) That makes no sense to me. :S
And when I say adding weight to my lifts, I mean microloading small increments, obviously I’m not expecting to add 5lbs a session or like you say I would be worlds strongest man in a couple of years lol.