Confused with Weight and How I'm Feeling

Hey guys

Weird title I know but let me explain.

Basically I’ve been on the V-DIET back in May and finished in June with an end weight of 158lbs (WAS 172lbs). I now (December) weigh 160lbs so have maintained it pretty good I think - eating just Cereal for Breakfast, Cereal for Lunch and then usually a dinner with meat and vegetables, pasta and salad etc - nothing heavy but sufficient enough to keep me satisfied.

Now for the past 2 weeks I havent been to the gym, due to getting i’ll so i’ve been out of the gym for 2 weeks now. Rcently I have noticed that my pants (boxers) feel tighter, as do my jeans. I measured myself up and I am the same as I was after the V-DIET - maybe 0.25" if i move the measuring place up or down.

Can anyone understand why my clothes are feeling tighter, and I’m feeling fatter? I just cant understand it - I’m weighing myself just now, after dinner and I only weigh 161lbs.

Anyone? This is a serious thread not messing here. Any input very much appriciated.

How tall are you?

Sounds to me like that the “taste changes” in the V diet didn’t work. Cereal for breakfast and lunch? Only three meals/day? Not enough protein. Not enough veggies. unless this isn’t your real diet, or you left things out. If so, post what you’re actually eating.

Second, you need to do some reading on proper nutrition.

Third, what are you goals?

Fourth, it boggles my mind how you just don’t do any physical activity or go the gym for two weeks. I haven’t lifted since friday, and I’m ready to get the hell back in there tomorrow (or right now). Get the hell back to the gym. Work towards your goal.

Maybe you gained muscle and that’s how your clothes are tighter. If your goals were to gain weight, then success! but if not then, less success perhaps. It’s a mental game. Being fat before requires that you sort of step outside your box when you’re not dieting or trying to gain weight.

If you’re lifting, doing some cardio and eating well, it’s not as if you’ll explode back up to your former fat self. Sometimes you have to take a step back and realize that.

Sometimes, it’s hard to believe that these are actually serious posts.

With the amount of information on T-Nation, the internet and numerous books on the topics of training and nutrition, you’d think someone would have managed to progress a little further along than just eating cereal for breakfast and lunch.

Not to mention that this guy used the V-diet when he was only 172lbs to begin with. Can we say, [i]“Never go full retard?”[/i]

Do you see the stickies at the top of this forum? Read them. All of them.

Your clothes are tighter because you haven’t been lifting and all of a sudden have gained a bunch of fat. It happens. Especially when you have a shitty carb-laden diet.

Read the stickies. Develop a real diet. Good luck.

[quote] boyscout wrote:

How tall are you?

Sounds to me like that the “taste changes” in the V diet didn’t work. Cereal for breakfast and lunch? Only three meals/day? Not enough protein. Not enough veggies. unless this isn’t your real diet, or you left things out. If so, post what you’re actually eating.

Second, you need to do some reading on proper nutrition.

Third, what are you goals?

Fourth, it boggles my mind how you just don’t do any physical activity or go the gym for two weeks. I haven’t lifted since friday, and I’m ready to get the hell back in there tomorrow (or right now). Get the hell back to the gym. Work towards your goal.

Maybe you gained muscle and that’s how your clothes are tighter. If your goals were to gain weight, then success! but if not then, less success perhaps. It’s a mental game. Being fat before requires that you sort of step outside your box when you’re not dieting or trying to gain weight.

If you’re lifting, doing some cardio and eating well, it’s not as if you’ll explode back up to your former fat self. Sometimes you have to take a step back and realize that.[/quote]

Hi boyscout,

I’m 5’4’'.

Taste changes might have not worked, but I am no where eating as much as I used to be. I’ve only actually put 2lbs on from my last weighing period (which was the transition period of the V-Diet).

Second, I know about Nurtition - i’ve read forums, i’ve read stickies, i’ve read posts… the lot. So now you are probably thinking well WTF why Cereal? Well basically, its been the only thing that I can eat quickly and forget about it and continue doing what I’m doing. When eating cereal I’m no longer obsessed by food - all of this eat every 2-3 hours makes my mind completley obsessed by food and I actually think it makes me worse of because my body then looks forward to the next meal, which ovbiously leads to weight gain for me and severly disrupts my day.

Third, my goals are to be slimmer and have some muscle. I’m not looking to be no Rambo even thought I’d love to be like that ( I mean who wouldn’t?) I just want to look trim, average I suppose you could say with muscle in general.

Fourth, The reason for not having gone to the gym is down to the fact that I was ILL, very ill so I’ve not been able to. I’ve done walking for about 1.5 miles, but thats about it (every day).

[quote] Nate Dogg wrote:
Sometimes, it’s hard to believe that these are actually serious posts.

With the amount of information on T-Nation, the internet and numerous books on the topics of training and nutrition, you’d think someone would have managed to progress a little further along than just eating cereal for breakfast and lunch.

Not to mention that this guy used the V-diet when he was only 172lbs to begin with. Can we say, “Never go full retard?”

Do you see the stickies at the top of this forum? Read them. All of them. [/quote]

Nothing constructive here.

Yes V-Diet when 172lbs, no problem - 14lbs lost and I was certainly chuffed with that. Whats wrong with me doing the V-Diet at 172lbs? I lost 14lbs didn’t I?

[quote] Otep wrote:
Your clothes are tighter because you haven’t been lifting and all of a sudden have gained a bunch of fat. It happens. Especially when you have a shitty carb-laden diet.

Read the stickies. Develop a real diet. Good luck. [/quote]

Hi Otep,

So you say I’ve gained fat… how is this possible?? from not doing any lifting??

How have I gained this fat, without gaining weight? thats what I cant understand.

Is it easy to get that fat off, or is it the same as any other fat? (I’ll have to do cardio to get it off?)

With regards to the diet, my main reason for it being shitty- yeh I agree - is like I said above… so that I can keep my mind the hell off of food, where I eat… feel full… and carry on. I just find it impossible to not become obsessed with food when I find myself making proper diets.

Replies appriciated.

[quote]D4NMAN wrote:

Otep wrote:
Your clothes are tighter because you haven’t been lifting and all of a sudden have gained a bunch of fat. It happens. Especially when you have a shitty carb-laden diet.

Read the stickies. Develop a real diet. Good luck.

Hi Otep,

So you say I’ve gained fat… how is this possible?? from not doing any lifting??

How have I gained this fat, without gaining weight? thats what I cant understand.

Is it easy to get that fat off, or is it the same as any other fat? (I’ll have to do cardio to get it off?)[/quote]

You haven’t been lifting, and you’ve been ill, so you’ve probably lost some muscle mass and gained so fat. it’ll come off like any other fat, with exercise and a good diet.

Stupid.

you’ve found the wrong web site

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Obsessed with food, gimme a break. If you are that “obsessed” then how about making all your food in the morning and not adding anything else throughout the day. I used to take 2-3 meals with me to university, where I am a 3rd Engineer in the UK, and that means I can do 6-9 hours of work, and eat at the same time if it’s a shake.

Your mind is giving you a rationalisation skull fuck at the moment. Cereal, I am assuming because you can’t be arsed to make anything workwhile is something shit like coco pops. WHO THE HELL GAINED ANYTHING BY EATING FRICKING COCO POPS 3 TIMES A DAY.

If you are looking for an “awwwwww sympathetic waawaawaa” reply then forget it. You have stated that you already have read the stickies and nutrition but the fact that you are ignoring it so blantantly makes your arrogant, ignorant and downright imature.

You will not get better in the gym
You will not get better looking
By eating shit
End of
Bloody
Arsing
Story

[quote] Shoo says:
stupid.
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[quote] malboroman says:
you’ve found the wrong web site

End Thread already
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WTF are these replies seriously?

Bunch of retards, please if you aren’t going to post a constructive post, then please DONT post at all. Stop trying to look ‘badman’ and just hit that back button. This isn’t a thread to +1 on your post count so back off.

What on earth are you talking about found the wrong website? Does no one post here about fat loss? about clothes feeling tighter? etc… yeh thought so. If every post on the same topic would be the same, a sticky would be in place at the top… but everyone has differnt posts and each thread will be different providing there is some detail/info in the original post.

So don’t tell me end the thread and I’ve found the wrong website.

Any further constructive comments would really be appriciated.

[quote]echelon101 wrote:

Replies appriciated.

Appreciate this…MAN UP YOU PUSSY

D4NMAN wrote:

Second, I know about Nurtition - i’ve read forums, i’ve read stickies, i’ve read posts… the lot. So now you are probably thinking well WTF why Cereal? Well basically, its been the only thing that I can eat quickly and forget about it and continue doing what I’m doing.

When eating cereal I’m no longer obsessed by food - all of this eat every 2-3 hours makes my mind completley obsessed by food and I actually think it makes me worse of because my body then looks forward to the next meal, which ovbiously leads to weight gain for me and severly disrupts my day.

Obsessed with food, gimme a break. If you are that “obsessed” then how about making all your food in the morning and not adding anything else throughout the day. I used to take 2-3 meals with me to university, where I am a 3rd Engineer in the UK, and that means I can do 6-9 hours of work, and eat at the same time if it’s a shake.

Your mind is giving you a rationalisation skull fuck at the moment. Cereal, I am assuming because you can’t be arsed to make anything workwhile is something shit like coco pops. WHO THE HELL GAINED ANYTHING BY EATING FRICKING COCO POPS 3 TIMES A DAY.

If you are looking for an “awwwwww sympathetic waawaawaa” reply then forget it. You have stated that you already have read the stickies and nutrition but the fact that you are ignoring it so blantantly makes your arrogant, ignorant and downright imature.

You will not get better in the gym
You will not get better looking
By eating shit
End of
Bloody
Arsing
Story

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Hmm…

I think a few things need to be clarified.

By obsessed, I mean that… when I did eat that often I would uncontrolably feel the urge to eat. Now if I’m eating more (in general) it will mean that I will put weight on.

The reason for eating JUST CEREAL is because I can put it in the bowl, eat it, feel full and continue doing with whatever I’m doing and have my mind kept off the topic of food - which as i’ve just explained above MAKES ME CRAVE TOO MUCH FOOD THEREFORE DRIVING ME INSANE EATING EVERY 2 FREAKING HOURS.

As far as cereal is concerned, its Bran flakes with raisins, almons, bannanas etc, or alternativley I have toast (x2).

I’m not looking for a sympathetic reply. I’m looking for something constructive. I’m CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT because they all reccomend EATING SO FREQUENTLY which I have tried in the past BUT IT MAKES ME TOO OBSESSED. Third time I’ve said that in this post.

[quote]D4NMAN wrote:

Hmm…

I think a few things need to be clarified.

By obsessed, I mean that… when I did eat that often I would uncontrolably feel the urge to eat. Now if I’m eating more (in general) it will mean that I will put weight on.

The reason for eating JUST CEREAL is because I can put it in the bowl, eat it, feel full and continue doing with whatever I’m doing and have my mind kept off the topic of food - which as i’ve just explained above MAKES ME CRAVE TOO MUCH FOOD THEREFORE DRIVING ME INSANE EATING EVERY 2 FREAKING HOURS.

As far as cereal is concerned, its Bran flakes with raisins, almons, bannanas etc, or alternativley I have toast (x2).

I’m not looking for a sympathetic reply. I’m looking for something constructive. I’m CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT because they all reccomend EATING SO FREQUENTLY which I have tried in the past BUT IT MAKES ME TOO OBSESSED. Third time I’ve said that in this post.
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Dude,

You’re getting flamed due to the fact that many will perceive your diet and lack of will as laziness.

It’s already been stated but you need to lose the cereal and increase your protein intake WHILE working out in some fashion.

Ever try eggs? How about lean turkey? Rolled oats? Fruit? There is a wealth of information on here regarding dieting and proper macro nutrient breakdown. Two helpings of cereal a day just isn’t the answer.

Use the search button a few tiomes and perhaps you’ll figure out what you are doing wrong.

[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
D4NMAN wrote:

Hmm…

I think a few things need to be clarified.

By obsessed, I mean that… when I did eat that often I would uncontrolably feel the urge to eat. Now if I’m eating more (in general) it will mean that I will put weight on.

The reason for eating JUST CEREAL is because I can put it in the bowl, eat it, feel full and continue doing with whatever I’m doing and have my mind kept off the topic of food - which as i’ve just explained above MAKES ME CRAVE TOO MUCH FOOD THEREFORE DRIVING ME INSANE EATING EVERY 2 FREAKING HOURS.

As far as cereal is concerned, its Bran flakes with raisins, almons, bannanas etc, or alternativley I have toast (x2).

I’m not looking for a sympathetic reply. I’m looking for something constructive. I’m CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT because they all reccomend EATING SO FREQUENTLY which I have tried in the past BUT IT MAKES ME TOO OBSESSED. Third time I’ve said that in this post.

Dude,

You’re getting flamed due to the fact that many will perceive your diet and lack of will as laziness.

It’s already been stated but you need to lose the cereal and increase your protein intake WHILE working out in some fashion.

Ever try eggs? How about lean turkey? Rolled oats? Fruit? There is a wealth of information on here regarding dieting and proper macro nutrient breakdown. Two helpings of cereal a day just isn’t the answer.

Use the search button a few tiomes and perhaps you’ll figure out what you are doing wrong.

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Hi,

Just would like to thank you for a constructive post towards my thread. I can understand to the majority that they will think that my diet is due to laziness. Its not belive me. I’ve tried many things, including the V-DIET which was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done.

The only thing that seems to work for me, is by eating less frequently - just so that I can get full quick and forget about a meal until it is next due.

Dinners I have been eating varying stuff, sometimes beef, chicken, pasta, vegetables etc - its only the breakfast and lunch where I’ve been having cereal. So I guess you could say my ‘nutrients’ are only really comming from the evening meal rather than all three.

My quick advice is to eat 5-6 small meals spread throughout the day. This will help your body not feel as full during feedings, but also rev up your metabolism to a point where you will start burning calories naturally.

Add some resistance training and/or cardio and your pants will fit better in no time.

It requires planning, but can be accomplished even in the busiest of schedules.

May I ask how old you are?

This is not the website for sympathy, people here try to give you honest advice that gets results.

Here’s mine:

  1. Start lifting
  2. clean up you diet.
  3. cut down cereal to none or once/twice a week.
  4. Try to sleep properly.
  5. Re-read the stickies, particularly regarding #2

Once you’ve attempted these things, then post questions. Until then, everyone will just keep telling you to do what I’ve written here.

Use a little will-power if you start thinking about eating more during your next meal. Try and realize that it’s not that your body needs it, but it’s a psychological response to an increase in your metabolism.
Eat a little, more often, plan out your meals, and exercise some will-power. And go back to lifting

Jeez, you all are giving this guy way too hard of a time over what appears to be nothing. Yeah the cereal twice a day may not be the best choice, but it certainly isn’t THAT bad; Polishing off 4 Sausage Mcgriddles every day? Bad. Two bowls of cereal a day? Not that big of a deal.

D4NMAN, at the risk of sounding like a jackass, have you ever thought that you might just be imagining that you’re fatter? You sound like someone who is obsessive compulsive and the mere thought of weighing more on the scale is causing you to obsess over it, which is perhaps making you think that the clothing you are wearing feels tighter than usual. Heck, if the clothing had just been washed and dried, it probably shrunk a bit in the dryer, and that might be a reason that the clothes feel tight again. I just don’t think that you’d feel a 2 lbs weight increase in the fit of your clothing.

2 lbs really means nothing on the scale; honestly, I’m thinking that you just put on water weight. If you haven’t been working out for the last two weeks and you’ve been sick, chances are you have been retaining water, and that’s OK. Obviously if the trend continues then it might be a problem, but just hit up the gym whenever you start feeling better and I think you’ll be perfectly fine.

[quote]D4NMAN wrote:
I know about Nurtition - i’ve read forums, i’ve read stickies, i’ve read posts… the lot. [/quote]

It’s this statement that gets me.

Lets run some metaphors.

Doctor - I am afraid you have cancer and you need chemotherapy right away!
Patient - Shit really, my calenders booked till christmas
Doctor - Oh, that’s ok we can wait till later

Coach - In order to win next years Superbowl/NCAA/race we need to put in 2000 hours of training before next Summer
Athlete - Shit really, I am holiday with my girlfriend till the 2nd semester
Coach - That’s ok, we’ll just do less training

Nutrition Posts - In order to grow you need a balanced diet with 5-6 meals a day with carbs, protein and fats.
D4nman - Shit really, I can only really have 3 meals a day 2 of which are bowls of cereal
Nutrition Posts - That’s ok you’ll still be at CT’s level soon

Now do you see?

So what if you did the V-Diet, it’s not a badge of honour.

If it makes you too obsessed go and see a psychiatrist. The difference between us and mice is that we have self-control. You don’t have to eat every TWO HOURS just eat EVERY THREE HOURS. My timing during workout days are, 630-900-1200-1500-1800-2000, not really that hard. In fact those are pretty much the times that normally people eat at so you can go have a munch with your buddies. Hell eating the 1200 meal at 1300 is not going put you into catabolism.

That’s not even a got any protein in it, assuming you don’t put whey in it. Unless you are eating 100g of almonds that bowl is going to be less that 800kcals easily.

@ Sex the only reason I giving this guy a hard time is because he says that he knows about nutrition yet do Berardi, Jen Heath, Cassandra Forsyth, CT, Bowden, Nate Green, Lyle McDonald, etc etc who all know about nutrition NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER recommend even on a fat loss diet let alone a growth diet that you eat THREE TIMES A DAY let alone 2/3 OF YOUR MEALS BEING CEREAL. If they do obviously I am doing the wrong thing.

It really sounds like you’re not willing to change anything with your diet, and since it’s obviously not working for you from what you’re saying then there’s nothing anyone here can do for you.

[quote]echelon101 wrote:
@ Sex the only reason I giving this guy a hard time is because he says that he knows about nutrition yet do Berardi, Jen Heath, Cassandra Forsyth, CT, Bowden, Nate Green, Lyle McDonald, etc etc who all know about nutrition EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER recommend even on a fat loss diet let alone a growth diet that you eat THREE TIMES A DAY let alone 2/3 OF YOUR MEALS BEING CEREAL. If they do obviously I am doing the wrong thing. [/quote]

You’re most certainly right, there are much much much better ways of eating and if the OP is serious about lifting and developing a quality physique then he should radically change his diet; however, I don’t think he’s out for an impeccable physique judging by his posts, so he honestly might be fine with cereal twice a day, assuming that he gets back into the gym as soon as he can.