[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
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Every person you just mentioned has been almost exclusively known for raw lifting. Lilly and Bell both got their starts in multiply, but have transitioned away from it in favor of raw in recent years. Greene, Efferding, and the Lillibridges are all exclusively raw lifters. Are they all on drugs? Almost certainly, but they lift in non-tested federations so its a moot point. High squats? Bell, Efferding, and occasionally Green (maybe depending on whether he’s squatting in wraps or not) have squatting styles that are reminiscent of multiply squatters, so they cut it awfully close, but none of them are in the ballpark of someone like Dave Hoff.
I appreciate European lifters -especially someone who is more than likely clean and a very nice kid based on the documentary I watched on him a while back- but you don’t appear to know what you’re talking about regarding the current state of American powerlifting.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
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You just called out Americans for not understanding the culture of a sport in another country and in the next sentence spouted your own biased and ignorant views about the culture of a sport you obviously don’t understand in America.
As an aside. No one here has any freaking idea if or what he uses. He could be married and his wife wouldn’t know, but you think by living in the same country you know?
Not only are you a hypocrite with little knowledge about American powerlifting, but you are also full of shit about what you “know” about your own country.
As always I’m in awe of his squats.
I’d love to see him lift without the gear. But it seems Norwegian powerlifting is obsessed with the cheater gear, from what I hear.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[/quote]
Drugs is the OPPOSITE of my main point. It was an afterthought in my first post, and my second post was to explicitly state that I DIDN’T CARE ABOUT IT.
You could not have misread me any worse.
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges ALL KNOWN FOR RAW LIFTING! What planet are you on lol? Bell and Lilly were pretty into gear in the past, but their big rise to fame was when they were lifting raw. They do all use drugs. If you find that reprehensible then fine. They do not all squat high. Carl Yngvar’s relative impressiveness is an opinion, so that’s totally fine if you feel what he’s doing is the best. I will say though, in my opinion, given that he competes in single ply gear I find Andrey Malanichev, Eric Lilliebridge, and Dan Greene much, much more impressive with their raw squats.
You seem incredibly out of touch with American powerlifting.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
As always I’m in awe of his squats.
I’d love to see him lift without the gear. But it seems Norwegian powerlifting is obsessed with the cheater gear, from what I hear. [/quote]
Hahaha. But seriously, it seems as though most European countries have very few opportunities to compete raw. Most comps here are single-ply.
[quote]kgildner wrote:
But seriously, it seems as though most European countries have very few opportunities to compete raw. Most comps here are single-ply.[/quote]
Ahem, ever heard of IPF World classics?
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]kgildner wrote:
But seriously, it seems as though most European countries have very few opportunities to compete raw. Most comps here are single-ply.[/quote]
Ahem, ever heard of IPF World classics?[/quote]
Yes indeed. As I said, it seems as though there are very few opportunities to compete raw (not “there are no opportunities…”).
and that derek kendall guy with his kevlar multiply carbon fiber rubberband sui…oh wait.
Very easy 320 kg squat with wraps.
315 ATG, in underpants, from 2011:
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges.
None of these guys squat high
[quote]Zen Taco wrote:
and that derek kendall guy with his kevlar multiply carbon fiber rubberband sui…oh wait.[/quote]
Yea, only 5 meter wraps and no walk out to shit depth
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[/quote]
Drugs is the OPPOSITE of my main point. It was an afterthought in my first post, and my second post was to explicitly state that I DIDN’T CARE ABOUT IT.
You could not have misread me any worse.
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges ALL KNOWN FOR RAW LIFTING! What planet are you on lol? Bell and Lilly were pretty into gear in the past, but their big rise to fame was when they were lifting raw. They do all use drugs. If you find that reprehensible then fine. They do not all squat high. Carl Yngvar’s relative impressiveness is an opinion, so that’s totally fine if you feel what he’s doing is the best. I will say though, in my opinion, given that he competes in single ply gear I find Andrey Malanichev, Eric Lilliebridge, and Dan Greene much, much more impressive with their raw squats.
You seem incredibly out of touch with American powerlifting.[/quote]
Wraps that can add 200lbs on ur squat is not raw
[quote]Rubsu wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[/quote]
Drugs is the OPPOSITE of my main point. It was an afterthought in my first post, and my second post was to explicitly state that I DIDN’T CARE ABOUT IT.
You could not have misread me any worse.
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges ALL KNOWN FOR RAW LIFTING! What planet are you on lol? Bell and Lilly were pretty into gear in the past, but their big rise to fame was when they were lifting raw. They do all use drugs. If you find that reprehensible then fine. They do not all squat high. Carl Yngvar’s relative impressiveness is an opinion, so that’s totally fine if you feel what he’s doing is the best. I will say though, in my opinion, given that he competes in single ply gear I find Andrey Malanichev, Eric Lilliebridge, and Dan Greene much, much more impressive with their raw squats.
You seem incredibly out of touch with American powerlifting.[/quote]
Wraps that can add 200lbs on ur squat is not raw
[/quote]
Actually, it is. Its not Raw Classic, but its still raw.
As for CYC, his lifting is nothing short of awesome!
[quote]Rubsu wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[/quote]
Drugs is the OPPOSITE of my main point. It was an afterthought in my first post, and my second post was to explicitly state that I DIDN’T CARE ABOUT IT.
You could not have misread me any worse.
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges ALL KNOWN FOR RAW LIFTING! What planet are you on lol? Bell and Lilly were pretty into gear in the past, but their big rise to fame was when they were lifting raw. They do all use drugs. If you find that reprehensible then fine. They do not all squat high. Carl Yngvar’s relative impressiveness is an opinion, so that’s totally fine if you feel what he’s doing is the best. I will say though, in my opinion, given that he competes in single ply gear I find Andrey Malanichev, Eric Lilliebridge, and Dan Greene much, much more impressive with their raw squats.
You seem incredibly out of touch with American powerlifting.[/quote]
Wraps that can add 200lbs on ur squat is not raw
[/quote]
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not, but wraps cannot add anywhere near 200lbs. FYI Andrey usually uses 2m wraps. The maximum allowed in any raw competition to my knowledge is 2.5m. We haven’t even mentioned Ray Williams, a big American favorite, who has squatted 940 without knee wraps.
How do you know so little about powerlifting?
[quote]csulli wrote:
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not, but wraps cannot add anywhere near 200lbs. FYI Andrey usually uses 2m wraps. The maximum allowed in any raw competition to my knowledge is 2.5m. We haven’t even mentioned Ray Williams, a big American favorite, who has squatted 940 without knee wraps.
How do you know so little about powerlifting?[/quote]
Dan Green also squatted 783 in sleeves at RUM7. I suppose someone will say sleeves aren’t raw next, or at the very least that he used trash bags to get them on.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Rubsu wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ahnz wrote:
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.[/quote]
No thoughts on the rest of what I said? I didn’t really expect so lol[/quote]
Your main point was drugs. You mentioned it in both your replies, so I wanted to make it clear how the culture & testing is in Norway.
Anyway, I’m sorry if my first reply seemed harsh. It’s just that when I browse American PL forums, I always see big words of Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Mark Bell, Brandon Lilly, the Lilliebridges etc. What they all have in common is either high squats, drugs or multiply gear.
What Carl Yngvar is doing is way more impressive.
[/quote]
Drugs is the OPPOSITE of my main point. It was an afterthought in my first post, and my second post was to explicitly state that I DIDN’T CARE ABOUT IT.
You could not have misread me any worse.
Dan Greene, Stan Efferding, Brandon Lilly, Mark Bell, the Lilliebridges ALL KNOWN FOR RAW LIFTING! What planet are you on lol? Bell and Lilly were pretty into gear in the past, but their big rise to fame was when they were lifting raw. They do all use drugs. If you find that reprehensible then fine. They do not all squat high. Carl Yngvar’s relative impressiveness is an opinion, so that’s totally fine if you feel what he’s doing is the best. I will say though, in my opinion, given that he competes in single ply gear I find Andrey Malanichev, Eric Lilliebridge, and Dan Greene much, much more impressive with their raw squats.
You seem incredibly out of touch with American powerlifting.[/quote]
Wraps that can add 200lbs on ur squat is not raw
[/quote]
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not, but wraps cannot add anywhere near 200lbs. FYI Andrey usually uses 2m wraps. The maximum allowed in any raw competition to my knowledge is 2.5m. We haven’t even mentioned Ray Williams, a big American favorite, who has squatted 940 without knee wraps.
How do you know so little about powerlifting?[/quote]
He knows everything. He’s 18. Duh.
Actually, I’m truly surprised that he’s so dumb on this stuff. I figured when I looked over his post history, I’d see some twerp with a 250 lb squat or something. This kid is actually strong, trains hard, is very familiar with strength sports, etc. It sounds like he just hates America, really. I’d bet if this conversation was about anything else American, he’d be taking the same shitty attitude.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
It sounds like he just hates America, really.[/quote]
Can you blame him, though?
haha J/k.
But, seriously. Can you?
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Rubsu wrote:
Wraps that can add 200lbs on ur squat is not raw
[/quote]
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not, but wraps cannot add anywhere near 200lbs. FYI Andrey usually uses 2m wraps. The maximum allowed in any raw competition to my knowledge is 2.5m. We haven’t even mentioned Ray Williams, a big American favorite, who has squatted 940 without knee wraps.
How do you know so little about powerlifting?[/quote]
He knows everything. He’s 18. Duh.
Actually, I’m truly surprised that he’s so dumb on this stuff. I figured when I looked over his post history, I’d see some twerp with a 250 lb squat or something. This kid is actually strong, trains hard, is very familiar with strength sports, etc. It sounds like he just hates America, really. I’d bet if this conversation was about anything else American, he’d be taking the same shitty attitude.[/quote]
I know! He’s actually a strong guy. I’m baffled that he has gotten this into powerlifting without learning a little more about others in the sport. And it’s not just America. I mean half of my favorite lifters are Russian. He has some weird aversion to knee wraps I guess.
Rubsu, do us a favor and try on a pair of knee wraps. Get the biggest, most hardcore ones you can find. Give me your address and I will buy you a pair and mail them, anywhere in the world. Let me know if you get 200lbs out of them. I would be shocked if you even managed to get 50lbs out of them.