The Norwegian powerlifter Carl Yngvar Christensen, also known as CYC, made a new world record total in the IPF European championship today. He squatted 485 kg, beating his own world record, he benched 337,5 kg and deadlifted 375,5 kg for a 1200 kg total. IPF is a single ply, WADA sanctioned federation.
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This is totally insane… But the americans will still not mention him when talking about records; they prefer multiply gear, steroids and high squats.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
This is totally insane… But the americans will still not mention him when talking about records; they prefer multiply gear, steroids and high squats.[/quote]
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Since we already piss and moan about gear vs raw, maybe we could do single vs multiply here?
Or…we can do American vs international.
Or…we can do that this guy is lifetime drug free (100% natural) and that he has never touched a PED in his life because WADA (or whatever) said so.
So nice to see a world record total with solid, clean lifts. The sky seems to be the limit for this guy.
My coach has been following and talking about this guy. Thanks for sharing.
Insane. That squat was enormous… And the guy squatting, too.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
This is totally insane… But the americans will still not mention him when talking about records; they prefer multiply gear, steroids and high squats.[/quote]
Maybe 10 years ago. I don’t know if you’re in America or not, but the powerlifting community here has seen a MASSIVE shift toward raw lifting.
Your conclusion is still correct, a lot of us don’t give a shit about his record. But it isn’t because he isn’t in multiply gear rofl; it’s because it isn’t raw. Most of the scene goes nuts over Andrey and Eric and Derek Kendall these days when it comes to squats. And I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you if you think ol’ Yngvar’s never touched steroids lol.
[quote]csulli wrote:
And I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you if you think ol’ Yngvar’s never touched steroids lol.[/quote]
Actually, I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
And I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you if you think ol’ Yngvar’s never touched steroids lol.[/quote]
Actually, I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
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Reason?
[quote]csulli wrote:
Your conclusion is still correct, a lot of us don’t give a shit about his record. But it isn’t because he isn’t in multiply gear rofl; it’s because it isn’t raw.[/quote]
This is unfortunately true. Here in Germany we only truly have a single federation, which competes according to IPF single-ply rules. This means that those who in fact wish to compete raw either have to accept the inherent disadvantage in going up against people with equipment or learn to compete single-ply. I’d personally go the single-ply route if the gear weren’t so damned expensive.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
And I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you if you think ol’ Yngvar’s never touched steroids lol.[/quote]
Actually, I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
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Reason?[/quote]
They have a great team with proper coaching there (incl. technique, proper use of equipment, etc.), has been training “professionally” for a long time, the “clean” vibe you get from the whole Norwegian team there, he gets tested (hardly perfect but still), a 360kg raw squat (if you translate his singleply sq) for an extremely talented shw is not completely insane, etc.
Wouldn’t be gutted if he uses or has used in the past, but for the moment I personally would give him the benefit of the doubt.
I´m pretty sure he is clean. He is subject to the same testing that top olympic athletes are, i.e. random unannounced WADA-testing. Also there´s no real culture for using drugs inside organized sports in most of Scandinavia, unlike most of the eastern european nations. And it´s not like he makes any real money powerlifting. So if he wanted to cheat, he would be totally on his own, with no support structure helping him to hide the cheating.
Having said that, I do understand that some people will doubt this. Solely based on his performance. If he was Russian, I probably would think the same thing.
Norway is really big on clean lifting.
Their top athletes get tested multiple times per year.
Besides they have really good powerlifting training methods.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is done natural.
[quote]burt128 wrote:
So nice to see a world record total with solid, clean lifts. The sky seems to be the limit for this guy.[/quote]
Agreed. Was awesome to watch.
Maybe he’s natty; who knows? Only him. The real answer is I could not care less about it. I find the whole nature of testing in strength sports incredibly asinine.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Maybe he’s natty; who knows? Only him. The real answer is I could not care less about it. I find the whole nature of testing in strength sports incredibly asinine.[/quote]
agreed. I’m not doubting, and it doesn’t matter anyway. I was just curious why infinite shore felt like he was likely clean. As for the comparison that was made to Olympic athlete testing… kinda made me lol.
It’s hard to accept that CYC is drug-free when he is competing (and beating) guys who we can be fairly certain are not drug-free. I mean Testsov and Konovalov.
It’s unheard of taking steroids in the norwegian powerlifting community. It’s just not a topic. It would be nearly impossible for him to get away with it anyway.
With the culture and frequent testing I would say there’s a very, very little chance.
[quote]ahnz wrote:
This is totally insane… But the americans will still not mention him when talking about records; they prefer multiply gear, steroids and high squats.[/quote]
Silly comment. I don’t know how anybody could not be impressed with this guy. He’s been hitting huge numbers for the past couple of years and only seems to be getting stronger.
Strong is strong.