Lol, ^^ I didnt log out of my friend’s account. Above is advice by Forevernade lol.
For now, just pick any training protocol from the beginner’s stickies, and eat enough food, and you’ll gain weight everywhere.
If you keep practicing to be fast for martial arts, you’ll stay fast for martial arts.
I study and teach Kung Fu and tai Chi, and I’ve lost fat, gained muscle, and my technique hasn’t really changed much. As long as you keep practicing, you’ll maintain your skills.
[quote]forevernade wrote:
Lol, ^^ I didnt log out of my friend’s account. Above is advice by Forevernade lol.
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I knew it had to be you by your referral to Starting Strength in the bodybuilding.com forums.
It’s been said already, however, I’ll say it again - that “starting strength” program is basic, but NOT easy! As stuward said, you are expected to increase the weight used every workout on that program. Think that’s easy?
Complexity in a program is required as you get stronger, because you can no longer just increase weight each workout. A complex program is actually one that has slower progress. As a beginner, you can make fast progress; that’s why a a basic program was recommended.
It has nothing to do with you being accustomed to “hard work.”
everybody has been so helpful already
thank you very much!
I’d suggest checking out the Physique Clinic threads. In particular USCTrojan619, he seemed to put on a lot of muscle in a short period of time. Even if you don’t follow his routine exactly, his diet/workouts might give you some ideas or even a place to start.
Hope this helps 
[quote]IronWarrior24 wrote:
forevernade wrote:
Lol, ^^ I didnt log out of my friend’s account. Above is advice by Forevernade lol.
I knew it had to be you by your referral to Starting Strength in the bodybuilding.com forums.[/quote]
Oh no! They’re on to me! -_^
Quick… to the BAT-MOBILE!
Lol, I just have had some very significant gains from doing rippetoe’s program, so why wouldn’t I suggest it for others? also the larger workload thing is true, think about it.
Yeah I gained 25lb, bench from 132lb->198lb, Dead 100lb->264lb, Squat 100lb->242lb
I’m going to try the Rippetoe. I’ve decided that is the best place to start, thanks to the forum members here.
Tommorow is Monday, and my first day on the program. I’ll start posting all my numbers, and see how much I can increase them in the coming months
gonna get strong. gonna get bigger.
thanks again T-Nation
Starting strength is amazing, I also recomend a westside template after a few months also.
First day, Starting Strength numbers
I don’t know if its because I did this so early in the morning, but I just didnt feel very strong at all today. I never workout in the mornings - but on this program I am going to have to
Anyways heres some numbers:
Squat 3x5 80lbs
Bench press 3x5 70lbs
Deadlift 3x5 70lbs
it seems my suspicions are totally right, in that my legs are weak as hell. But this is the first day, maybe things will change in the coming weeks.
My form on the deadlift is going to need a lot of work, I feel a bit wobbly, but its all new to me so I’m sure its just a matter of repetition.
actually you seem pretty thin and since you’ve done lots of martial arts you should have pretty good flexibility. you actually should have pretty good strength for your body weight. and you probably know a bunch of stuff from martial arts that new trainees dont know.
get your form as perfect as you can in compound movements. you’ll see that some things are repeated for almost all of them (Breath into your belly, not your chest, keep almost everything tight, keep your back tight even if you think the exercise has nothing to do with it, keep it straight)
keep looking around, learn stuff for the 5 exercises you have get form as good as you can. try to be explosive(which you probably already know to a point from martial arts).
after that increase the weight. the hardest 2 to get perfect form and technique should be squat and deadlift.
btw do you know what you should eat moer or less? most people are actually better off in the morning, me included.
the best thing imo is to eat protein (around 30 grams for your weight), a fruit, and some slow digesting carbs (brown rice)
drink some milk, drink ENOUGH water
then start your gym session when you’ve digested. how long that is varies on each person.
[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
actually you seem pretty thin and since you’ve done lots of martial arts you should have pretty good flexibility. you actually should have pretty good strength for your body weight. and you probably know a bunch of stuff from martial arts that new trainees dont know.
get your form as perfect as you can in compound movements. you’ll see that some things are repeated for almost all of them (Breath into your belly, not your chest, keep almost everything tight, keep your back tight even if you think the exercise has nothing to do with it, keep it straight)
keep looking around, learn stuff for the 5 exercises you have get form as good as you can. try to be explosive(which you probably already know to a point from martial arts).
after that increase the weight. the hardest 2 to get perfect form and technique should be squat and deadlift.
btw do you know what you should eat moer or less? most people are actually better off in the morning, me included.
the best thing imo is to eat protein (around 30 grams for your weight), a fruit, and some slow digesting carbs (brown rice)
drink some milk, drink ENOUGH water
then start your gym session when you’ve digested. how long that is varies on each person.[/quote]
Yes I’m pretty strong for as skinny as I am - at least I feel that way. I can wrestle guys bigger than me and give them trouble, and I can move things that average people dont move. I feel strong compared to others my size I guess is what I’m getting at.
the only compund movement I’m having trouble with is the deadlift…it just feels really awkward to me. My knees feel a bit wobbly. I suppose with time that will fix itself. My form is pretty good on that pull - Ive had people watch me and correct a few things so far. I think I’m still very far from having proper form though.
My legs are extremely explosive when it comes to kicking, but thats because I’ve been doing that for years, and my legs are light enough to get good speed behind them. As far as putting an extra 100lbs on my legs and still making them to explode, thats another story.
For the most part my diet is pretty good, lots of chicken and brown rice. I eat fruit all the time. Lots of vegies. I dont eat out very much so I know everything I’m eating. No fast food. I dont have a sweet tooth at all so not much processed sugars either. Ive recently started making 2 different kinds of shakes in the morning:
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2 or 3 gobs of peanut butter, 1/2 can pumpkin puree, 1 bannana, 1 scoop of whey protein powder (25g), a bunch of milk, a cup or so of oatmeal, and some honey to sweeten it up a bit
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2 bannanas, a cup or so of oatmeal, a bunch of milk, a scoop of strawberry protein (25g), a little honey
sometimes I put other fresh fruit in them, sometimes not. It all depends on what I have
I don’t really want this to be about my diet, as I think I eat well. My main problem is that I dont think I’m eating enough of what I eat now, as I’m always hungry now…
But thats a good thing!
[quote]tueighty wrote:
First day, Starting Strength numbers
I don’t know if its because I did this so early in the morning, but I just didnt feel very strong at all today. I never workout in the mornings - but on this program I am going to have to
Anyways heres some numbers:
Squat 3x5 80lbs
Bench press 3x5 70lbs
Deadlift 3x5 70lbs
it seems my suspicions are totally right, in that my legs are weak as hell. But this is the first day, maybe things will change in the coming weeks.
My form on the deadlift is going to need a lot of work, I feel a bit wobbly, but its all new to me so I’m sure its just a matter of repetition.[/quote]
This is a great program. You’re going to enjoy watching the weight increase. With Rippetoe, its better to start off a little low then, well, too high. It will be difficult the first two weeks to get used to all the squats. After the “break-in” period you will start to love squatting so much (at least I do). I look forward to each and every session. I have a log in the Beginners section as well, The Dude’s Rippetoe Log.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
This is a great program. You’re going to enjoy watching the weight increase. With Rippetoe, its better to start off a little low then, well, too high. It will be difficult the first two weeks to get used to all the squats. After the “break-in” period you will start to love squatting so much (at least I do). I look forward to each and every session. I have a log in the Beginners section as well, The Dude’s Rippetoe Log.
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Is that the program you are working now?
By the way - I love the Big Lebowski, and the Tick…dude you already rock hahaha
I’m glad I’m starting low with my weight in squat and deadlift, cuz well its dangerous if you do it wrong, and by the time I start adding weight, I’ll have gotten the tecnique down better!
I’m pretty excited to see how much my squat goes up, I don’t really like the deadlift, but because of my martial arts training, I know that the one I don’t like, is the one I’m going to have to focus harder on
[quote]tueighty wrote:
Is that the program you are working now?
[/quote]I have a log in the Beginners section as well, The Dude’s Rippetoe Log.
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By the way - I love the Big Lebowski, and the Tick…dude you already rock hahaha
[/quote]Couldn’t agree more. The Dude’s lifestyle and the Tick’s wit, deadly combination.
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I’m glad I’m starting low with my weight in squat and deadlift, cuz well its dangerous if you do it wrong, and by the time I start adding weight, I’ll have gotten the tecnique down better!
I’m pretty excited to see how much my squat goes up, I don’t really like the deadlift, but because of my martial arts training, I know that the one I don’t like, is the one I’m going to have to focus harder on[/quote]
I struggle with the deadlift as well. It’s a wonderful growth exercise, but if done incorrectly can really mess up your back. I’ve had lower back problems (nothing serious) so I take it easy as far as weight increases. My squat is becoming too close to my deadlift numbers. When you are strong in the deadlift, you will be strong in the squat.