My Bulking Begins Now!

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[quote]krstphr wrote:
Professor X wrote:
dankid wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
So…

Does this mean you want to bench 405 now?

Oh, and no i still dont want to bench 405. My current goal would be my current BW (190) for 20+ reps. And then when I get to 215, my goal would be 215-225 for 20+ reps.

LOL!!!

Wow. No Einsteins in this generation.

Haha. So true Professor X.

Just read “The Dumbest Generation” by Mark Bauerlein if anyone here doubts just how retarded the “Millennials” or “Generation Y” or “Generation DotNet” (whatever you want to call us) truly are. Makes me sad sometimes to be included in this generation.

No wonder the majority of '09 contributors on this site suck.

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quit the ethug bullshit. dankid good luck with your program, and if it doesn’t work, you’ll figure something out that does. keep on truckin’.

P.S. according to my calculations, 225x20 equates to something like a 375 single. that’s the equation from the Wendler e-book for comparing rep maxes btw. take it for what it’s worth.

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Thanks for the support Therizza

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225X20 is about a 360 1RM, according to this, and I don’t believe that all that much. I think if you all you do is rep work up to 225, you’ll get really good at lifting 225. Higher than that, not so much.

http://www.nsca-lift.org/fly%20solo%20program/onearm.asp

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Reynolds et al (2006), in J Strength Cond Res for predicting 1RMs from different rep max ranges concluded that anything above a 10RM is inaccurate for prediction of a 1RM.

HOWEVER their equation for a 20RM at 220lbs (100kg) came out at 350lbs. Moot point, since the accuracy of that equation for predicting a 1RM wasn’t that good.

5RM was most accurate,

1RM = 1.1307*(5RM weight(kg)) + 0.6999

How would you use? Do your 5RM, work out your 1RM, and make sure all your training rep ranges were at a good intensity (at least 70% 1RM for hypertrophy gains).

Then again, just make sure you are always lifting heavy, and even if you’re aiming for 10/12 reps make sure that’s about the last one you can do, and you’ll be in the right training range.

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I think you guys are really missing my point. My goal isn’t to lift 225x20 so that I can say “i have a 405lb bench” I just want to lift 225 for a ton of reps. Sure when it gets to 20+ reps, i’ll probably up it to 245lbs and build back up. And i’ll be doing the same thing with pullups, as mentioned above.

Here is the way im planning on this:

*Pick a weight that is about a 8-12rm
*Do as many sets as it takes to reach 20 reps (stopping 1-2 short of failure)
*When you can get 20 reps in less than 3 sets, up the target to 30 reps.
*Keep going until you can get 20 reps on your first set
*Increase the weight fairly significantly to a new 8-12 rm.
*Repeat.

Not anything really different than what most people do. Its a little different than keepign the reps the same and adding 2.5’s each time, but overall really the same thing.

As of right now, its been pullups or Pushups for this. I do it at the END of my workout after ive done my “strength” exercises. I may stick with pushups and pullups, although im temped to go to bench. Pushups are better on my shoulders, but less directly related to getting me to repping 225 on bench. I suppose though if I can do 20+ pushups with 90lbs added to my pushups then I may be on the way to this goal. Chain pushups would be nice, but I dont have access to them. Either way though.

But my point is… Im not trying to be a bodybuilder and im not trying to be a powerlifter. Sure, my training should somewhat resemlbe what they do, because my goals are similar, just not one or the other. But you cant argue that if I were continually work in the 3-20 rep range, with most of my time in the 8-15 range, and eat enough to gain 25lbs that I wouldn’t gain muscle. This is the advice that almost everyone recommends to every person coming on here for advice. Show me a 215 lb person that can do 20+ dead hang pullups with a 45lb’er and i’ll be impressed. Sure they may not be a bb’er but this is pretty damn impressive, and they would be fairly muscular.

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I just found this for anyone that doesn’t think deloads are necessary.

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[quote]dankid wrote:
*Pick a weight that is about a 8-12rm
*Do as many sets as it takes to reach 20 reps (stopping 1-2 short of failure)
*When you can get 20 reps in less than 3 sets, up the target to 30 reps.
*Keep going until you can get 20 reps on your first set
*Increase the weight fairly significantly to a new 8-12 rm.
*Repeat…

Not anything really different than what most people do. Its a little different than keepign the reps the same and adding 2.5’s each time, but overall really the same thing…[/quote]

No, it’s not really the same thing at all.

[quote]dankid wrote:
But my point is… Im not trying to be a bodybuilder and im not trying to be a powerlifter. Sure, my training should somewhat resemlbe what they do, because my goals are similar, just not one or the other. But you cant argue that if I were continually work in the 3-20 rep range, with most of my time in the 8-15 range, and eat enough to gain 25lbs that I wouldn’t gain muscle. This is the advice that almost everyone recommends to every person coming on here for advice. Show me a 215 lb person that can do 20+ dead hang pullups with a 45lb’er and i’ll be impressed. Sure they may not be a bb’er but this is pretty damn impressive, and they would be fairly muscular.[/quote]

You’re not being one or the other, and you’re going to end up with nothing. But I’m quite sure in 3-4 weeks you’ll get bored of this and switch onto something else.

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Whatever dude.

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How’s the bulk coming along?

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[quote]latestartoldfart wrote:
How’s the bulk coming along?[/quote]

In all fairness, I think you’d have to give someone more than two weeks to do anything astounding.

Unless you’re SmallToBig, the ass.

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Has smalltobig put up any pics yet?

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[quote]Zackgsc wrote:
Has smalltobig put up any pics yet?[/quote]

No, but he has some videos in the T-Cell. I believe he said he would soon, within a week or two.

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SO hows it going DK? Still runnin strong?

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[quote]SSC wrote:
latestartoldfart wrote:
How’s the bulk coming along?

In all fairness, I think you’d have to give someone more than two weeks to do anything astounding.

Unless you’re SmallToBig, the ass.[/quote]

I didn’t realize I needed your permission to ask the man a simple question. But I appreciate your random lashing out.

And I also didn’t see where I was asking or implying that something “astounding” should have happened.

It was a straight forward request for information regarding how the OP felt he was progressing.

But continue on with the stellar attitude.

/latestartoldfart

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[quote]latestartoldfart wrote:
SSC wrote:
latestartoldfart wrote:
How’s the bulk coming along?

In all fairness, I think you’d have to give someone more than two weeks to do anything astounding.

Unless you’re SmallToBig, the ass.

I didn’t realize I needed your permission to ask the man a simple question. But I appreciate your random lashing out.

And I also didn’t see where I was asking or implying that something “astounding” should have happened.

It was a straight forward request for information regarding how the OP felt he was progressing.

But continue on with the stellar attitude.

/latestartoldfart

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jump the gun much? I don’t think SSC was being rude in any way,

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
latestartoldfart wrote:
SSC wrote:
latestartoldfart wrote:
How’s the bulk coming along?

In all fairness, I think you’d have to give someone more than two weeks to do anything astounding.

Unless you’re SmallToBig, the ass.

I didn’t realize I needed your permission to ask the man a simple question. But I appreciate your random lashing out.

And I also didn’t see where I was asking or implying that something “astounding” should have happened.

It was a straight forward request for information regarding how the OP felt he was progressing.

But continue on with the stellar attitude.

/latestartoldfart

jump the gun much? I don’t think SSC was being rude in any way,

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Maybe he wasn’t. Maybe I misinterpreted his post. If so, I’ll be the first to apologize.

I just couldn’t see what the point was in his reply to my post/question. I asked the OP how his bulk was coming along.

Nowhere did I demand to see astounding results or any other such thing. And nowhere did I imply that after only 2 weeks I was expecting to see some major transformation.

Again, it was a simple question. One that was “bumping” a relatively quiet thread, in hopes of hearing from the OP and his impressions thus far of his plan & progress.

It wasn’t a question that I expected someone else to respond to by basically telling me I shouldn’t be asking the OP questions.

Again…if I’m in the wrong here…sorry…just seemed like a weird reply.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
Zackgsc wrote:
Has smalltobig put up any pics yet?

No, but he has some videos in the T-Cell. I believe he said he would soon, within a week or two.[/quote]

im curious to see his progress, it seems like the guys is really busting his ass.

(just in chase someone saw my other post and thought it was a call out)

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[quote]latestartoldfart wrote:
How’s the bulk coming along?[/quote]

Things are going pretty good. My weight is about 195-197 right now, so ive gained about 5-7lbs. Its taking a lot more food than I thought it would. I did weigh in at 199 one day and this was after going to the bathroom. I was pretty excited, but it went back down to 195 the next day.

I think I took in a lot of carbs the day before and this was mainly water/glycogen. Im not doing carb-loads at the moment but they will come soon, so I’ll eassily get5-10 lbs of glycogen/water gain in me when I start to carb load, but im saving that for when I get back to my complexes.

Right now is my “recovery/deload” period and im experimenting with a higher fat, lower carb diet. It by no means is low carb though. Im not counting calories, but my estimates are that im taking in between 3-4k. The macro breakdown now would be protein 30%, Fat 50% and Carbs 20%.

Ive pretty much had no limits on any foods though. Ive been drinking a lot of whole milk, peanut butter, meat, etc. But I need to turn things up a notch…

Im switching back to complexes starting on sunday. When that happens, i’ll be adding in a lot more carbs. Ive decided to try a few things that I read about from Berardi’s website.

  1. I’ll be buying bags of bagels, and making an entire bag of PB&j’s with the bagels in the morning. I’ll be setting a timer, and eating these in between my meals as a snack. So three of these a day, in addition to my other food.

  2. Im going to up my whole milk even further, and add chocolate syrup to it. I’m going to check for a chocolate syrup with real sugar if possible, and i’ll be aiming for up to a gallon a day.

Other than this, im going to add some carb-loads throughout my cycles. I haven’t planned these yet, but they’ll either be 3-hour carb feeding frenzies, or i’ll follow another typical method.

So my current goal is to hit 200lbs by next wednesday (7/22). Im pretty comfident that i’ll make it even before then.

As for my training, things have been good. During this phase, my workouts have been higher volume heavy sled pulls/pushes. Previously the heaviest I went on these was my tire +70lbs, but this past week ive been doing the tire +110lbs and for a lot of pulls. Yesterdays workout was 14 pushes, and 10 pulls all for 100 ft.

My gym workouts haven’t been so special since this is where I am deloading, but I still have been working on low-end strength on bench and pullups, and im also working on upping my hamstring strength with sumo-rdls.

And my backup plan, if I cant get to 200+ as fast as I plan, then i’ll start to cut down on my workout durations and volumes until my weight starts to climb again.

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chocolate milk powder will have real sugar in it.