LBM is anything that’s not fat, which includes water.
So not all of the weight loss was fat/muscle, the first week alone he lost a lot of water just by cutting the carbs.
Which is accounted for in the -13 pounds.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
You look good but I think after week 6 you didnt lose any more fat.
It looks like you just got smaller at that point.
The difference between week 1 and 2 is crazy. And week 9 is the best picture there. But I really cant see a difference between week 6 and 9.
But good job overall. Good proportions [/quote]
From my personal experience, I did get leaner from Week 6 to Week 10. In a larger picture, you can tell there are more striations throughout my body in the final weeks.
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That’s good then. Hard to tell from the small pics. [/quote]
No, I agree. You look good even from the beginning but even making them larger, you look nearly the same from week 6 to finish, no offense. Did you measure your BF in any way? Did your weight change?[/quote]
I did not measure bodyfat, ever. I weighed myself on occasion, but in no specific manner really.
Look at the difference in leg definition. Striations are starting to become more defined towards the end of the cut. My upper body didn’t change much, but there are also more visible striations in the chest as well towards the end.
[quote]jussplainpimpin wrote:
Can you explain more on your training whats a lift day look like? How many sets and what exercises are you normally doing?[/quote]
My training program is GST. It focuses on Pressing, Pulling, Squatting, and Lifting. Those are the four targets of the program.
Day 1: Pressing Movements, 1 core lift and 3 supplement lifts. Core lift is increased in intensity on a workout to workout basis, taking 3-4 workouts to go from 60% 1RM to 80-90% 1RM. Supplement rotate through 3 set/rep schemes on a workout to workout basis.
Day 2: Squatting Movements, 1 core lift and 3 supplement lifts. Core lift is increased in intensity on a workout to workout basis, taking 3-4 workouts to go from 60% 1RM to 80-90% 1RM. Supplement rotate through 3 set/rep schemes on a workout to workout basis.
Day 3: Pulling/Lifting Movements, 2 core lifts and 3-4 supplement lifts. Core lift is increased in intensity on a workout to workout basis, taking 3-4 workouts to go from 60% 1RM to 80-90% 1RM. Supplement rotate through 3 set/rep schemes on a workout to workout basis.
Ab work is brought in with a little during each workout and I also train my weak points with higher frequency as well.
I do a modified 3 day GST split, combinining my Pull/Lift days. I know everything about program, as I am the creator 
Thanks for the question btw. I appreciate it!
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
Why on earth would you think I started at around 12% bodyfat?! I was clearly higher than that.
Can you explain why I can’t be 6 feet tall and weight 186.5 at the moment? I lost a total of around 13lbs, some water, some fat. No matter how you stack it, I changed my appearance for the better in a short period of time.
Its not always a math problem
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
Very well said. When measuring bodyfat, it is more important to be consistent than it is to be accurate.
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
LBM is anything that’s not fat, which includes water.
So not all of the weight loss was fat/muscle, the first week alone he lost a lot of water just by cutting the carbs.
Which is accounted for in the -13 pounds.
[/quote]
Thanks for backing me up Nikki. Good to see some good members on this site 
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
Why on earth would you think I started at around 12% bodyfat?! I was clearly higher than that.
Can you explain why I can’t be 6 feet tall and weight 186.5 at the moment? I lost a total of around 13lbs, some water, some fat. No matter how you stack it, I changed my appearance for the better in a short period of time.
Its not always a math problem ;)[/quote]
I guess around 12-13% because you can see the “top four abs” in the first photo. At normal hydration, that is typically seen around that bodyfat percentage.
Even dropping water, over a ten week schedule you would gain most of it back. Yes in the first couple of weeks of a low carb diet, you drop water fast. But it is usually put back on in the following weeks. So by the end of week 4, your water has pretty much leveled off as your body has gotten used to the diet. Thus, “your” last pic is probably not some “water” weight.
As for the 6ft and 187lbs, I’ve been at this a long time, and I’ve seen guys 6ft, 187lbs. And those pics are way to filled out to be at that height and that weight. If you say that you just fill out well, that doesn’t jive with the I lost water comments.
Post a pic with a shoe, I will start to believe.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.
Why would it be substantially different? If he lost 3-4 pounds of water (and I’m thinking that’s too little), he would have just needed to drop a pound of fat each week thereafter.
A pound a week isn’t going to give “substantially different” results.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
Why on earth would you think I started at around 12% bodyfat?! I was clearly higher than that.
Can you explain why I can’t be 6 feet tall and weight 186.5 at the moment? I lost a total of around 13lbs, some water, some fat. No matter how you stack it, I changed my appearance for the better in a short period of time.
Its not always a math problem ;)[/quote]
I guess around 12-13% because you can see the “top four abs” in the first photo. At normal hydration, that is typically seen around that bodyfat percentage.
Even dropping water, over a ten week schedule you would gain most of it back. Yes in the first couple of weeks of a low carb diet, you drop water fast. But it is usually put back on in the following weeks. So by the end of week 4, your water has pretty much leveled off as your body has gotten used to the diet. Thus, “your” last pic is probably not some “water” weight.
As for the 6ft and 187lbs, I’ve been at this a long time, and I’ve seen guys 6ft, 187lbs. And those pics are way to filled out to be at that height and that weight. If you say that you just fill out well, that doesn’t jive with the I lost water comments.
Post a pic with a shoe, I will start to believe.[/quote]
Whats up with the shoe comment? Would you like me to stand next to my squat rack so you can compare height so I can prove my point?
Really man, why the hate?
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
Why would it be substantially different? If he lost 3-4 pounds of water (and I’m thinking that’s too little), he would have just needed to drop a pound of fat each week thereafter.
A pound a week isn’t going to give “substantially different” results.[/quote]
Exactly. When I cut previously, I would lose around 1lb/wk, and this time was no different. I don’t see why there is anything unrealistic about my photos. Only someone with a lack of experience would see something wrong with them.
I have no reason to lie. I’m simply introducing myself to this site in a way that shows that I’m NOT a troll. I’m showing that I have a respectable physique and have put in plenty of work to obtain it.
So far I’ve only seen one hater in this thread, which is a good sign for this site!
Thanks again Nikki.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
lulz
You tried to refute numbers that YOU MADE UP
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
Why would it be substantially different? If he lost 3-4 pounds of water (and I’m thinking that’s too little), he would have just needed to drop a pound of fat each week thereafter.
A pound a week isn’t going to give “substantially different” results.[/quote]
Exactly. When I cut previously, I would lose around 1lb/wk, and this time was no different. I don’t see why there is anything unrealistic about my photos. Only someone with a lack of experience would see something wrong with them.
I have no reason to lie. I’m simply introducing myself to this site in a way that shows that I’m NOT a troll. I’m showing that I have a respectable physique and have put in plenty of work to obtain it.
So far I’ve only seen one hater in this thread, which is a good sign for this site!
Thanks again Nikki.[/quote]
No one thinks youre a troll man. You posted 12 pictures lol.
The shoe comment is a running joke. If you have an hour of your life to completely waste and feel like laughing find a thread by “eliteballa3” the title is something about guessing bodyfat %. Do a member search and find it through the post history. Its funny.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
Explain how it doesnt jive?
Caliper tests can be done by any schmuck with a pair of hands attached to their arms. 3, 5, 7, 12 site tests. Fuck “typical” that doesnt make anysense. We arent talking about a general situation, this is one guy posting his pics. General and typical dont mean anything when dealing with a specific person.
How dense are his bones btw? You forgot to guess what that number is.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
Explain how it doesnt jive?
Caliper tests can be done by any schmuck with a pair of hands attached to their arms. 3, 5, 7, 12 site tests. Fuck “typical” that doesnt make anysense. We arent talking about a general situation, this is one guy posting his pics. General and typical dont mean anything when dealing with a specific person.
How dense are his bones btw? You forgot to guess what that number is. [/quote]
The bodyfat % argument is a red herring. I’m saying look at his 6ft 200lbs week one photo. Then at his 6ft 187lbs photo. If he lost fat, water, and a little muscle, you would expect him to be extremely leaner looking. He doesn’t look it. Thus, his post numbers are made up.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
Explain how it doesnt jive?
Caliper tests can be done by any schmuck with a pair of hands attached to their arms. 3, 5, 7, 12 site tests. Fuck “typical” that doesnt make anysense. We arent talking about a general situation, this is one guy posting his pics. General and typical dont mean anything when dealing with a specific person.
How dense are his bones btw? You forgot to guess what that number is. [/quote]
The bodyfat % argument is a red herring. I’m saying look at his 6ft 200lbs week one photo. Then at his 6ft 187lbs photo. If he lost fat, water, and a little muscle, you would expect him to be extremely leaner looking. He doesn’t look it. Thus, his post numbers are made up.[/quote]
You’re telling me you don’t see a difference from Week 1 to Week 9-10? Now I just think you’re messing with me, so I’ll probably just refrain from paying attention to your posts anymore.
Three blind mice could see a noticeable difference… have a good one McG.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
Explain how it doesnt jive?
Caliper tests can be done by any schmuck with a pair of hands attached to their arms. 3, 5, 7, 12 site tests. Fuck “typical” that doesnt make anysense. We arent talking about a general situation, this is one guy posting his pics. General and typical dont mean anything when dealing with a specific person.
How dense are his bones btw? You forgot to guess what that number is. [/quote]
The bodyfat % argument is a red herring. I’m saying look at his 6ft 200lbs week one photo. Then at his 6ft 187lbs photo. If he lost fat, water, and a little muscle, you would expect him to be extremely leaner looking. He doesn’t look it. Thus, his post numbers are made up.[/quote]
You’re telling me you don’t see a difference from Week 1 to Week 9-10? Now I just think you’re messing with me, so I’ll probably just refrain from paying attention to your posts anymore.
Three blind mice could see a noticeable difference… have a good one McG.
[/quote]
Should I just ignore him too? Because I don’t understand how he’s assuming that you’re losing fat AND muscle. At a pound weight loss a week, it’s safe to say that it’s coming from fat.
I might just leave this thread to God.
Welcome to TN OP.
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]McG78 wrote:
Batman, my troll alert is going off.
One, there is no way that guy is 6ft and only weighs 190ish. Two, he says he lost around 13 lbs. If he started at around 12.5% bodyfat he would have had about 175lbs of lean body mass. If he lost 10lbs of fat and 3lbs of muscle, his final bodyfat % would have been about 8%. There is no way that week 10 pic is at 8%.[/quote]
You do know that the only thing caliper numbers are good for is measuring change, right? The actual numbers aren’t particularly accurate, no matter who does them. [/quote]
While your posts are usually spot on, this one doesn’t jive. My point is that based on his starting visual leanness it is hard to believe that he lost 13 pounds because his final visual leanness would be substantially different. The numbers were for illustration only.[/quote]
Explain how it doesnt jive?
Caliper tests can be done by any schmuck with a pair of hands attached to their arms. 3, 5, 7, 12 site tests. Fuck “typical” that doesnt make anysense. We arent talking about a general situation, this is one guy posting his pics. General and typical dont mean anything when dealing with a specific person.
How dense are his bones btw? You forgot to guess what that number is. [/quote]
The bodyfat % argument is a red herring. I’m saying look at his 6ft 200lbs week one photo. Then at his 6ft 187lbs photo. If he lost fat, water, and a little muscle, you would expect him to be extremely leaner looking. He doesn’t look it. Thus, his post numbers are made up.[/quote]
Yea youre right. This is all a big scam. This isnt even real life. Youre in the matrix
quote] Yea youre right. This is all a big scam. This isnt even real life. Youre in the matrix[/quote]
I don’t understand why it is so hard to believe that this world isn’t real.
In truth, I still think this guy is a troll.