More Crossfit Hating

JaseHxC · December 3, 2011, 12:42pm

I’ve grown to respect the serious Crossfitters (better known as not the ones we discuss on here) and what they do, I’ve even tried my hand at some of the WODs as a conditioning tool and just to see what all the commotion is.

With that being said, regardless of the merits of the Continental Clean or any other little known lift they dig up, I’d wager 80% of Crossfitters are a serious injury waiting to happen and I only hope that the gym they work out in has all their bases covered insurance wise so as not to be liable for this idiocy.

Nards · December 3, 2011, 1:46pm

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:
some of those Crossfit people are in pretty good shape, but the conditioning of this group seemed low

no one had a belt or anything

some of them looked like minors

risky stuff

three-legged dog getting-the-hell-out-of-there @ 2:22 is GIF material[/quote]

In my head this was read like a haiku as spoken by Lawrence Fishburne.

Tex_Ag · December 3, 2011, 1:49pm

I think the idea that those in the gym, even the really serious competitors, are not enjoying or having fun or intend to have fun in the competition is rather sad. Look at the powerlifting or strong man threads on how much fun is to be had at the competitions. Now, I know that training/practice is not always “fun” but the final.result should be. When I coached I would tell my players you work hard in practice so that the games can be fun. In otherwords, learning the key skills makes the whole enterprise enjoyable. I am not saying that the crossfitters should or should not learn the continental clean, though enough have mentioned its role in strongman competitions, but the idea that they or we cannot have fun learning a new lift and not be serious as well is laughable and pathetic.

Sterneneisen · December 3, 2011, 1:56pm

A continental clean requires the use of a belt. Just saying.

KrohDaddi · December 3, 2011, 2:29pm

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]KrohDaddi wrote:
some of those Crossfit people are in pretty good shape, but the conditioning of this group seemed low

no one had a belt or anything

some of them looked like minors

risky stuff

three-legged dog getting-the-hell-out-of-there @ 2:22 is GIF material[/quote]

In my head this was read like a haiku as spoken by Lawrence Fishburne.
[/quote]

i tend to think in paragraphs

Ct_Rockula · December 3, 2011, 2:30pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
It’s a continental clean. We do them when we’re repping a heavy clean and press, like in a competition. It’s not pretty, theirs look way sloppier than we try to do em, and I generally end up with weird bruises, but it is a viable lift. You do a normal clean and press as long as you can, and then you go on to continental if you must.

I will say I continental clean double overhand, but I have a friend who just placed at Nationals who does them mixed grip.

You guys sound like the YouTube commenters who tell me I’m an idiot for arching in a bench.[/quote]

I’m not sure how you can miss the obvious. There is NO value to performing this lift to that group of trainees. They are NOT training for competition.

How do you miss this rather simple risk/benefit analysis?[/quote]

Bump
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Are you really bumping this quote?

Hello. Lifiting can be fun. Learning how to lift ‘heavy’ shit over your head is empowering.

The only reason you wouldn’t want to teach a woman this, or any other overhead lift, is that you thing they are better off in the kitchen making sandwiches.

/I make an an awesome sandwich
/for me
/the ingredients are in the kitchen, go make your own
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I doubt even most pro athletes or serious bodybuilders (competitive or non-competitive) or even serious power lifters are in the gym “for fun”. I’m there to make progress. That won’t happen for long if my technique is so poor it promotes injury.

What is empowering is gaining more strength and power…not doing random movements in the gym just for the “fun of it”.

A few months ago two newbs broke the lat pull down machine. They were “having fun” with it using poor form and slamming the weights back down. Too bad we all had to suffer for their “fun time”.[/quote]

You ever do cleans for singles with bumper plates? That shit is fun.

solidkhalid · December 3, 2011, 2:39pm

Saw the video. Wheres the coaching/cuing? All I hear is you got this, you can do it, etc… but no one is trying to help anyones form or get stronger.

[quote]hurg53 wrote:
yea for cardio i just have sex all night like a frickin tweaker[/quote]

You have sex? (with other people I mean)

Professor_X · December 3, 2011, 2:47pm

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
I think the idea that those in the gym, even the really serious competitors, are not enjoying or having fun or intend to have fun in the competition is rather sad. Look at the powerlifting or strong man threads on how much fun is to be had at the competitions. Now, I know that training/practice is not always “fun” but the final.result should be. When I coached I would tell my players you work hard in practice so that the games can be fun. In otherwords, learning the key skills makes the whole enterprise enjoyable. I am not saying that the crossfitters should or should not learn the continental clean, though enough have mentioned its role in strongman competitions, but the idea that they or we cannot have fun learning a new lift and not be serious as well is laughable and pathetic.[/quote]

My fun is usually had in reaching a goal. You won’t get very far if your motivation is to just do random shit in the gym “for the fun of it” with lesser focus on that goal.

I could do 15 cartwheels everyday upon walking into the gym. I bet that would be fun.

I’ll just overlook there isn’t enough room and someone is bound to get a foot in the eye.

pbclax1 · December 3, 2011, 2:55pm

That first video is just what.the.hell.did.i.just.watch

Edevus · December 3, 2011, 2:57pm

I’m calling dibs on the 00:28 girl.

Ct_Rockula · December 3, 2011, 3:26pm

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
I think the idea that those in the gym, even the really serious competitors, are not enjoying or having fun or intend to have fun in the competition is rather sad. Look at the powerlifting or strong man threads on how much fun is to be had at the competitions. Now, I know that training/practice is not always “fun” but the final.result should be. When I coached I would tell my players you work hard in practice so that the games can be fun. In otherwords, learning the key skills makes the whole enterprise enjoyable. I am not saying that the crossfitters should or should not learn the continental clean, though enough have mentioned its role in strongman competitions, but the idea that they or we cannot have fun learning a new lift and not be serious as well is laughable and pathetic.[/quote]

You’re wrong fool.

Anyone who smiles in the gym or the two hours. Efore or after training is a god damn loser…and will never make any gains.

Even though laughing loosens you up and helps you perform better.

Tex_Ag · December 3, 2011, 3:29pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
I think the idea that those in the gym, even the really serious competitors, are not enjoying or having fun or intend to have fun in the competition is rather sad. Look at the powerlifting or strong man threads on how much fun is to be had at the competitions. Now, I know that training/practice is not always “fun” but the final.result should be. When I coached I would tell my players you work hard in practice so that the games can be fun. In otherwords, learning the key skills makes the whole enterprise enjoyable. I am not saying that the crossfitters should or should not learn the continental clean, though enough have mentioned its role in strongman competitions, but the idea that they or we cannot have fun learning a new lift and not be serious as well is laughable and pathetic.[/quote]

My fun is usually had in reaching a goal. You won’t get very far if your motivation is to just do random shit in the gym “for the fun of it” with lesser focus on that goal.

I could do 15 cartwheels everyday upon walking into the gym. I bet that would be fun.

I’ll just overlook there isn’t enough room and someone is bound to get a foot in the eye.[/quote]

My examples.were.all.goal.oriented and I do not think that randomness is the way to achieve specific goals. We do not.know what the goals of the people in the videos are so let’s leave that there.

Your post did get me thinking about the role of play in learning. For.children like most young mammals play is very important as a way of learning important life.skills. I am not sure that play as a way of developing skills and knowledge should be any less important for adults, especially those trying to learn more about their bodies and what they can accomplish with them (yes, I know.that labeling something like rape.is play and the road of furthest exaggeration can take us but let’s.stick to a.reasonable discussion).

Cliff.notes:
Goals.are.important
There is a place.for.play as well.

DixiesFinest · December 3, 2011, 3:37pm

[quote]hurg53 wrote:
yea for cardio i just have sex all night like a frickin tweaker[/quote]

test_driven · December 3, 2011, 3:59pm

I didn’t read all the replies, so if someone’s mentoned this they’re CORRECT. This shit is retarded. The full extension is excruciating to watch. Letting a non-strongman competitior, without a belt, continental clean a weight they cannot put overhead ONCE is insane. At best, this shit should be used as a progression for teaching a proper clean, with MUCH lighter weight of course.

U can disagree: u would be wrong.

killerDIRK · December 3, 2011, 4:02pm

“It doesn’t have to be fun…to be fun” Mark Twight American badass Alpinist
“Running tempo’s on Green Church road (elevation 7,000ft) kicks your ass, so that the Marathon doesn’t”
Deena Kastor American Marathon Record Holder

Yeah, they may or may not be enjoying themselves but like the kids in “extreme” sports (snowboarding, downhill mountain biking Et Al) they are not going to neccessarily feel the fucked up form today or tommorow but somewhere down the road, without the insight into the fact that they brought it upon themselves through poor form.

Thats for the video’s as well. LMMFAO !

Are you the police ?
NO ma’am, where musician’s : )

malonetd · December 3, 2011, 4:54pm

Where are people getting this belt-is-mandatory idea?. Sure you can use a belt, but in a competition, if the bar rests on the belt at all during the lift, it’s a no-lift. If you let a bunch of rookies use a belt, bars are going to be sitting on belts all day and they’ll never learn how to pull and hold the weight against the body.

big_nurse · December 3, 2011, 5:48pm

Enjoying the insights on play being a valuable part of learning.

I remember coach Dan john talking about going into the gym (or even better getting outside) and just playing around with some different exercises–being a bit experimental etc.

My example of this is messing around in the woods doing all sorts of lifts with forest debris and seeing what i can do with bodyweight out there as well eg pull ups on high branches etc.

And i remember that quote by Mark Twight too…sometimes the very serious can be ‘fun’ too.

HeavyTriple · December 3, 2011, 6:13pm

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]hurg53 wrote:
yea for cardio i just have sex all night like a frickin tweaker[/quote]
[/quote]

I already posted that meme on page 3…GO FIND YOUR OWN MEME!

HeavyTriple · December 3, 2011, 6:16pm

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I’m calling dibs on the 00:28 girl.

[/quote]

Most people on this site aren’t attracted to girls who look 12, so I think you’ll be fine.

TheBodyGuard · December 3, 2011, 6:20pm