[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
[quote]Mutu wrote:
Looooooooooooooooooooool the bitch at :35 is trying to use a mixed grip[/quote]
Not defending Crossfit but with an axle clean and press mixed grip is not improper form.
Just because you can do it that way doesn’t mean that you should. Why on Earth would a mixed grip be a desireable start point on a clean and push press?
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
[quote]Mutu wrote:
Looooooooooooooooooooool the bitch at :35 is trying to use a mixed grip[/quote]
Not defending Crossfit but with an axle clean and press mixed grip is not improper form.
Just because you can do it that way doesn’t mean that you should. Why on Earth would a mixed grip be a desireable start point on a clean and push press?[/quote]
It’s an axle. It’s much thicker than a regular bar.
It’s really hard to clean double overhand, nearly impossible at heavy weights.
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Just because you can do it that way doesn’t mean that you should. Why on Earth would a mixed grip be a desireable start point on a clean and push press?[/quote]
I haven’t seen someone clean and press an axle that didn’t use a mix grip to start.
[quote]JLone wrote:
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Just because you can do it that way doesn’t mean that you should. Why on Earth would a mixed grip be a desireable start point on a clean and push press?[/quote]
I haven’t seen someone clean and press an axle that didn’t use a mix grip to start.
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I think the point is that these people don’t need to be doing a continental clean. Heck I’d say there was one guy there who weighed over 200lbs. It doesn’t make any sense to do them at that level and I’d wager my car that the movement was only chosen because it’s not very common and Crossfitters have to do everything differently
The mixed grip version is called the ‘Continental Clean’.
Look at all the videos showing it, they all use a thick bar making a regular clean almost impossible.
I’m guessing that once you get the bar to your chest you only have one grip to rotate for the press??
I would also assume that the mixed grip is used not only because the bar is thick but because it doesn’t rotate like a regular Olympic or power lifting bar. I could be wrong about that though. Still, unless you’re training for a strongman comp I can’t see why you would ever choose that lift over a clean and press.
So what they’ve decided to do is install a limiting factor in the exercise which has almost nothing to do with the exercises point.
By using the mixed grip with the thick bar they’ve turned this into a forearm exercise with a back crushing component.
The limiting factor of an exercise should be the muscle groups which are the protagonsists, not the supporting muscles. Consider doing bicep curls on Bosu ball. What is the limiting factor? It aint the biceps. I put this exercise into the same category.
[quote]naxis wrote:
Where do these crossfitters find such light weights that look so big? They have 5’s that look like 45’s.[/quote]
They are bumper plates. Almost all 5lb bumpers look like they are heavier than they are. They need to be so that they don’t bend and warp and crack under the weight of the bar if someone throws them down. They also need to be the same diameter as the heavier plates because they are for training technique.
[quote]dcb wrote:
Still, unless you’re training for a strongman comp I can’t see why you would ever choose that lift over a clean and press. [/quote]
I could be wrong but it looks like they are just screwing around for fun.
Is there something so terrible about trying something new? Perhaps some of them do have an interest in strongman and they brought in someone to show them some stuff.
I had a cross fit trainer dude in my lab group last semester and he was such a stereotypical douche it was unbelievable. You name it, he had the short shorts, shirt a size too small to show off the guns, a shitload of dumbass bands on his wrist, and of course the vibram 5 fingers.
Also he told me how he has his group of cross fit sheep doing a bunch of sets of 20 rep deadlifts. 20 rep deads wtf!!?1/1/1
its a legit strongman lift, but some of these people have like 0 muscle coordination. its like having some one do board pressing or benching with chains before they even know how to bench press
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
So what they’ve decided to do is install a limiting factor in the exercise which has almost nothing to do with the exercises point.
By using the mixed grip with the thick bar they’ve turned this into a forearm exercise with a back crushing component.
The limiting factor of an exercise should be the muscle groups which are the protagonsists, not the supporting muscles. Consider doing bicep curls on Bosu ball. What is the limiting factor? It aint the biceps. I put this exercise into the same category.[/quote]
Who is they?
This movement was not invented by crossfitters.
Since it was originally for use with an axle, the mixed grip is to reduce the limiting factor of the forearms.
And I assume you mean agonist?
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]dcb wrote:
Still, unless you’re training for a strongman comp I can’t see why you would ever choose that lift over a clean and press. [/quote]
I could be wrong but it looks like they are just screwing around for fun.
Is there something so terrible about trying something new? Perhaps some of them do have an interest in strongman and they brought in someone to show them some stuff.
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Don’t you know… You should never do something as serious as lifting heavy shit solely for enjoyment.
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]dcb wrote:
Still, unless you’re training for a strongman comp I can’t see why you would ever choose that lift over a clean and press. [/quote]
I could be wrong but it looks like they are just screwing around for fun.
Is there something so terrible about trying something new? Perhaps some of them do have an interest in strongman and they brought in someone to show them some stuff.
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Don’t you know… You should never do something as serious as lifting heavy shit solely for enjoyment.
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No. Training should always be absolutely fucking miserable, painful, and borderline injurious…oh wait, they’ve got that last one locked down.
My comments were just that the mixed grip may make more sense if they’re lifting a bar without rotating collars. I wasn’t sure if that had been pointed out. My other thought was that programming that lift into a WOD does seem odd to me.
They could be playing around with a new lift. I’m just going from what my wife tells me about her CF workouts. Basically she goes in and does the WOD and gets out.
[quote]Christine wrote:
lifting heavy shit solely for enjoyment.
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They’re not lifting heavy shit.
They’re lifting light weight foam.
(and they’re at a nearly orgasmic level of enjoyment… you can see it in they’re faces!)
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]naxis wrote:
Where do these crossfitters find such light weights that look so big? They have 5’s that look like 45’s.[/quote]
They are bumper plates. Almost all 5lb bumpers look like they are heavier than they are. They need to be so that they don’t bend and warp and crack under the weight of the bar if someone throws them down. They also need to be the same diameter as the heavier plates because they are for training technique.
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Surprised they don’t take some inflatable rings from the beach and use them in-between the plates. That would ‘look’ really heavy!
Maybe T-Nation could run a crossfit article including such elements as:
That bodybuilding clique hating on the crossfit clique is some serious high school shit, the small obscure group hating on the new, incredibly popular kid.
There isn’t a single person on this site (or in the bodybuilding universe) who could hang with those dudes at the Reebok Crossfit tournament.
Different goals people.
[quote]naxis wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]naxis wrote:
Where do these crossfitters find such light weights that look so big? They have 5’s that look like 45’s.[/quote]
They are bumper plates. Almost all 5lb bumpers look like they are heavier than they are. They need to be so that they don’t bend and warp and crack under the weight of the bar if someone throws them down. They also need to be the same diameter as the heavier plates because they are for training technique.
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Surprised they don’t take some inflatable rings from the beach and use them in-between the plates. That would ‘look’ really heavy!
Maybe T-Nation could run a crossfit article including such elements as:
Hating on bumper plates, really…?
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
[quote]naxis wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]naxis wrote:
Where do these crossfitters find such light weights that look so big? They have 5’s that look like 45’s.[/quote]
They are bumper plates. Almost all 5lb bumpers look like they are heavier than they are. They need to be so that they don’t bend and warp and crack under the weight of the bar if someone throws them down. They also need to be the same diameter as the heavier plates because they are for training technique.
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Surprised they don’t take some inflatable rings from the beach and use them in-between the plates. That would ‘look’ really heavy!
Maybe T-Nation could run a crossfit article including such elements as:
Hating on bumper plates, really…?[/quote]
Well, if crossfitters use them, they must be useless.