[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I didn’t insult you. I told the truth. Why is that seen as an insult? I’ve seen your pics and I can tell by looking at them you are not as serious as some others here…which you would HAVE TO BE in order to look like the guys you mentioned.
Mentioning this out loud is now an insult?
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I’m not speaking FOR Sky, but I am real life friends with the guy. He DOES take this much more seriously than most (one of the few people I’ve met who is ULTRA-passionate about nutrition and lifting). However, he might take this whole thing on in a different form than you do because he has three or four SERIOUS responsibilities in his life that he tends to with great care, two of which you don’t have and therefore allows you to engulf yourself far more in the gym than he or many other people. [/quote]
How does that change what I wrote?
Brick, you aren’t serious so of course you see nothing wrong with constantly bringing up how you don’t like how someone looks.
I don’t have any goals to look like Ronnie either…and it doesn’t matter because I doubt I could look like that even if I wanted to. My goals are different…and I feel zero need to put down the big guys or mention it.
My whole point is, if you are going to complain about how much you would rather look like the smaller guys of the “Golden Age”, then I would hope you are getting damn close to that look if you have been training fr a long time…otherwise those words mean much less.
The above pic is Rusty Jeffers. That guy is fucking huge and would cause a commotion most places he goes if he wore a tank top. I see few guys here getting close to that…and that was my point.
When do we get to see all of these guys who love the “Golden Age” get close to that themselves? Or is it just more random mental masturbation?
I applaud any man who can take care of his own family…but that doesn’t mean I somehow give more credit in bodybuilding for it.
That would be like making excuses for me being small because I went to school or the military, two big issues that cause many others to quit lifting so seriously.[/quote]
Fair points.
However - and I say this not to eternally argue with you - I don’t see why levels of “seriousness” have to be brought up when simply talking shop about bodybuilding… or nutrition… or conditioning… or whatever. I don’t have to and shouldn’t be expected to watch my every word (as long as I have some decency or class) in the conditioning forum because I don’t run a sub-10 second 100 meters; the nutrition forum because I’m not some high falutin’, world-reknowned nutrition scientist (despite the fact that I work in nutrition); in the powerlifting forum because I don’t squat a grand; or in the SAMA forum because I’m not Peter North.
To me, lifting at this point is a necessary hobby - necessary because I need it for physical and mental health and to not look like a slob - and a hobby because I’m never going to get socioeconomic reward from it. And it’s the same shit for most of the folks here, regardless if some are so damn serious (whaetver this means) and some are casual or some are downright puzzled and retarded with it.
I consider anyone who goes to a gym REGULARLY to be “serious”, regardless of what their physical or health goals are.
I see nothing wrong with not wanting to look like some people, but I agree with you in that it is strange and uncalled for to constantly bring it up.
Although I am somewhat private on here (FAR MORE private in the frequent SAMA posters), I do admit that if I could somehow manage my life in a way in which I could still be SERIOUS (serious in the manner you use) AND also have gotten the things I wanted in my life (which I now mostly have), then I would have remained hardcore. After several attempts to remain hardcore (lack of a better word) AND get other things I wanted and FAILING, I decided to tone shit down, trade in bodybuilding for “general fitness”, and voila, I got what I wanted within a short amount of time. I really don’t give a shit if this comes across as “pussy”, “soft”, or “sellout”. For those that remain hardcore while tending to all other necessary areas of life, you have my utmost respect (and I mean this)! I’m aware of what I’m good at and what my limitations are, and I admit that I ain’t good at being hardcore and getting other shit I want.
This isn’t gonna stop me from discussing bodybuilding or following it or going to a show.
