[quote]Professor X wrote:
This argument just passed up stupid and ran straight into dumbfuck.[/quote]
Yet you’re still in the thick of it.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
TSB
This thread is dead…[/quote]
Not yet.
[quote]Kratos wrote:
You on the other hand, are going in circles, and not making much sense.[/quote]
Circles? This thread has made 4 pages when it should not have made one. Anyone who honestly thinks that push ups alone get Marines big is a dickhead.
Obviously they all lift weights. They generally have fuck all to do and live in a high Testosterone environment.
Me going in circles and typing the opposite to your beliefs has kept it going.
6 tsb replies.
Thread is officially dead.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Kratos wrote:
What the Hell is the Spartacus Travel Guide?
Your old beach shot looked similar.
Google it.[/quote]
Yeah, I totally look like that blond white guy.
But, you’re the second one to say something like that. Unless you and “jjay” are the same person. He/you actually pm’d me about that shit. It’s time for a new 'tar.
Anyway, the “thread is dead” means that there is no hope left for it. Waitaminute are you sure you’re not Tim Phoenix?
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Kratos wrote:
You on the other hand, are going in circles, and not making much sense.
Circles? This thread has made 4 pages when it should not have made one. Anyone who honestly thinks that push ups alone get Marines big is a dickhead.
Obviously they all lift weights. They generally have fuck all to do and live in a high Testosterone environment.
Me going in circles and typing the opposite to your beliefs has kept it going.
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It’s amazing what one troll can accomplish sometimes…
[quote]wressler125 wrote:
6 tsb replies.
Thread is officially dead.[/quote]
TSB. I agree.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
Dude all my insults are tongue in cheek. However you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Was that tongue in cheek?
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No, you really do not know what you are talking about. It wasn’t an insult, it was a statement made based on the ridiculous statements you have put forward as facts.
Would that guy be Andre by any chance?
I also used to play basketball and I agree 100% when I started getting bigger and stronger I really sufferred at bball. But that was part of how I trained etc… and getting used to it. Nevertheless, you will never see enormously muscled guys playing bball professionally, it just doesn’t help. There are always tradeoffs at the elite level … or even at the junior level.
BULLSHIT. Flexability should go up. Muscles never get in the way of movement except perhaps thighs which can rub together. Lats, especially, don’t.
Except in many people’s cases their own personal experience disproves your opinions, so it is pretty hard to think your sweeping statements are true.
Are you saying that you have served in the military and that in your experience pushups alone have made anyone very big/strong? That they don’t lift weights? And that somehow you have proof that lifting weights makes someone clumsy/bulky and that you have seen that?
Dude I don’t think anyone is saying you CANNOT get good development through doing bodyweight exercises.
What people are disagreeing with (as I see it) are your statements and implications that
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bodybuilders a big clumsy slow etc…
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lifting weights is inferior to bodyweight work
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the military big guys did it with pushups etc… and don’t lift weights
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that people here who have achieved what you are saying is impossible (bulk, speed, agility and military competance), don’t know what they are talking about
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that some of the pain in the ass trainers out there are greater experts than people here
finally, you cannot prove people here wrong, because they have already achieved and seen what you are saying is impossible.
I mean, what the fuck?
[quote]CU AeroStallion wrote:
in all honesty, a couple hundred pushups a day is probably a good thing as it aids in increasing training frequency as well as creating increased blood flow (active recovery).
Besides, the only training equipment you need for this is the floor, or some ground.[/quote]
My LA fitness has neither. could u do them on top of a crowd of fat chicks?
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Kratos wrote:
You on the other hand, are going in circles, and not making much sense.
Circles? This thread has made 4 pages when it should not have made one. Anyone who honestly thinks that push ups alone get Marines big is a dickhead.
Obviously they all lift weights. They generally have fuck all to do and live in a high Testosterone environment.
Me going in circles and typing the opposite to your beliefs has kept it going.
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AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!
Finally realizing you were wrong, and trying to turn it around as if you knew it all along.
Yea, right.
It’s obvious to you now because you got schooled 1000 times on this thread.
I’m glad to see you’re learning though.
LOL
Damn it, I missed getting in on a thread about Marines! This thing has been beaten to death.
Semper Fidelis, happy Independance Day.
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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
His basketball suffered immensely.
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Poor thing. Did he dribble it harder than what it was used to?
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
It makes you functionally strong but doesn’t necessarily make you big and clumsy like a bodybuilder.
I know a few guys in the Military and they are hard & fit bastards. Getting under a barbell only makes you look tuff. Push ups and military style training will make you the real deal.
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What are you kidding me? I was at a Marine base a month ago for 8 months and those guys are like most of America fat and sloppy weak as piss. I’m on an Army base now and the same thing. The Marines all wanted to be as strong as me and wanted to look like me. Except this skinny kid that said, “Your big but I’ve got tone.” I laughed at him then I cleaned and jerked him over my head on a bet. He still thought he was the shit though. The armed forces mirror our pathetic society. I’d say their may be a 5 percent advantage to the military vs civilian as far as fitness goes. Even the infantry here is a bunch of weak bastards. Those guys work their asses off and we should support them but they are not living up to the idea most have of them. It is sad because if I were in their shoes I’d make sure I could get out of the shit if I were ever in it. I feel depressed when I see them. Now the civilians that are here as mercinaries, most of those guys are jacked.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
What people are disagreeing with (as I see it) are your statements and implications that
- bodybuilders a big clumsy slow etc…
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Someone said TSB and you keep going.
You know this statement is true. Show many any pro bodybuilder and I’ll show you someone that can’t move for shit.
No Military style PT is better than sitting in a gym doing a bodybuilders workout.
Someone actually agreed with me earlier in the thread. Someone who served outside the US. We know our Military are pretty soft.
Yeah right. Show many any big guy on this site that can run a decent 40, or doesn’t look at a 400m sprint as a cardio session.
There are your obvious exceptions. IE NFL players, but… I doubt any of the big guys on this site could do anything other than look good on stage.
I’m not talking about any of the authors on this site because they are great. But the forum people, please. It’s just like being in a gym and copping free advice off all the guys who think they know best.
The only trainer I have quoted was Peter Twist who has seen more than any of you guys out there. He’s S&C coached NHL teams, development leagues and etc. I’m sure he knows the negative effect traditional bodybuilding has on performance.
And how is he annoying. Probably because you have not heard of him.
Who has proved it? Who is huge and can actually move their body in a graceful manner. I know this pisses every bodybuilder off but they can’t do anything other than pose. Once they take to any sporting field they look like ridiculous.
[quote]NealRaymond2 wrote:
Poor thing. Did he dribble it harder than what it was used to?
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Funny guy. No he just sucked in every aspect. I’ve never seen a more coordinated person sabotage their talents.
Good bodybuilder though.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!
Finally realizing you were wrong, and trying to turn it around as if you knew it all along.
Yea, right.
It’s obvious to you now because you got schooled 1000 times on this thread.
I’m glad to see you’re learning though.
LOL[/quote]
Schooled? You idiots just get narky over anyone bagging out bodybuilders.
Clearly push ups won’t make you huge. But the numerous examples I have seen have shown me that huge typical bodybuilding guys suck at all sports.
I’ve never seen a knuckle-dragger play any sport well. NFL aside, but they work on their SAQ. None of you bodybuilders would do anything outside the gym except a morning power walk.
I wasn’t schooled once, because I don’t respect any of you guys or your advice.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
None of you bodybuilders would do anything outside the gym except a morning power walk.
I wasn’t schooled once, because I don’t respect any of you guys or your advice.
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Don’t forget their morning testosterone booster…
http://www.T-Nation.com/jumpLast.do?id=1139982
Wasn’t this TSB anyway?