Marines, Strength/Size, Push-Ups?

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]wressler125 wrote:
We think you are skinny because your profile says you are 6’1" and 160, built like Keira Knightley.
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I typed that in coz I when I read 5-11 and 270 without a picture I think bullshit straight away.

And I’ll fucking back that up. PTI’s are the fittest cunts I know. They make the course and they know better than the posters on this site. Their job is to train soldiers to become better prepared for the shit that might lie ahead of them.

Lugging all your kit, weapon and etc is far better “specific” training for their cause.

They train for their sport and they have the coaches that know best for them. Like the PTI’s do for the Military.

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And how the fuck would you know what military style training is? You have no experiance, and yet you are arguing with those that do.
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Keep talking “Cadet”. Your military experience sounds sensational. 20 minutes work for 2.5 hours on your arse.

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[quote]wressler125 wrote:
TSB?[/quote]

What the fuck is TSB?

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[quote]wressler125 wrote:
TSB?[/quote]

Indeed. sleepjin, is all kinds of lost on what he is saying. Or maybe it just seems that way because he’s so smart and we’re all stupid(I guess???).

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Pushups have their place. For example, I like to do pushups at the end of an intense chest workout. As a stand-alone exercise, I wouldnt put much stock in them…

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[quote]wressler125 wrote:
TSB?[/quote]

Absolutely!

I can’t believe it didn’t come out sooner.

Is he saying he didn’t type his real measurements in his profile because he didn’t think people would believe him?

So he lied and put tall/skinny measurements?

I don’t get it, but then, I’m not one of the smart ones here.

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[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The truth is usually that the individual who can quote Chek and random other trainers lacks any of the physical superiority that he looks down on others for lacking.

The reason that these guys are quoted in larger circles than T-Nation and you’re not is that they come out with good, bankable stuff.

I’m sure you have a lot of training experience and you know a lot about what works for you and your body, but Chek and co. are constantly improving their info in relation to not only themselves, but a host of others.

Chek, Poliquin, Gray: these are true fitness experts, you, on the other hand, are nothing but a glorified step instructor.

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“True fitness experts” are also in this to make money. What better way to appear to be the holy grail of training…than to make every other way of training that came before appear to be completely inept?

Step instructor? I don’t even train people anymore. I have also never claimed to be anything other than what I am…a bodybuilder who was once a personal trainer for a short time and who is now a doctor who does this simply because I love it.

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
TSB?

Absolutely!

I can’t believe it didn’t come out sooner.

Is he saying he didn’t type his real measurements in his profile because he didn’t think people would believe him?

So he lied and put tall/skinny measurements?

I don’t get it, but then, I’m not one of the smart ones here.[/quote]

Agreed. I let it go on too long myself.

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:

Is he saying he didn’t type his real measurements in his profile because he didn’t think people would believe him?

So he lied and put tall/skinny measurements?
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Who said I’m male?

Also, I was saying that I don’t believe any of you cunts in here with your measurements.

Except Kratos. That picture looks straight out of The Spartacus Travel Guide. But a decent physique nontheless.

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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Magarhe wrote:

oh crap now I see the numbnut has already commented on your avatar.

That hurts. [/quote]

Dude all my insults are tongue in cheek. However you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

No, what pisses everyone off is that you do not know what you are talking about, and there seem to be countless people like you coming in over the years with the same misguided beliefs.

SOME of the concepts you are struggling with are true, and that is the problem. You don’t realise that they are NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.

It is possible to train purely for size, get big, AND be clumsier, bulkier, perform worse in sports, be slower. IT IS POSSIBLE. But it is not the rule, if anything it is pretty rare.

You should read this article to do with sports-specific strength for MMA

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1034530&pageNo=0

It is the best example of outlining the differences in applied strength for a specific sport that I can remember/find.

You should educate yourself.

You should drop the attitude that just because you kind of think something and believe it, that it is true. The people responding to you here are EXPERTS telling you otherwise in every way possible.

You are not an expert.

What you are doing is the only real stupidity that exists - hanging on to a belief despite overwhelming evidence that it is wrong, with no evidence to back it up except the fact that you thought of it. I don’t call someone an idiot if they don’t know something. Not everyone has the same education. But if someone doesn’t know something, discovers otherwise and refuses to acknowledge it, then they are in fact an idiot.

Stop demonstrating stupidity.
Demonstrate some humility, re-educate yourself and get some better results.

We all make mistakes and have stupid ideas - stop doing it.

If you keep arguing everyone will call you a numbnut.

If you instead educate yourself and come back and realise and admit that you were wrong, then you’ll win a lot of friends who will admire your humility. That’s human nature.

Please realise that there are instinctive reasons why you believe what you do - but also realise they are wrong. Until you have seen a huge strong agile graceful and fast person - or in fact, until you become one - you will have trouble believing it.

Until you have done hundreds of pushups then realised it ain’t doing squat then you might think that is the way to train.

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[quote]Kratos wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
TSB?

Indeed. sleepjin, is all kinds of lost on what he is saying. Or maybe it just seems that way because he’s so smart and we’re all stupid(I guess???).[/quote]

Spot on Spartacus. Way to come in and throw your support behind X. It’s almost like high school. People want to be ‘in’ with the local tuff guy.

Maybe you will be lucky and he will put you on as a friend.

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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
We think you are skinny because your profile says you are 6’1" and 160, built like Keira Knightley.

I typed that in coz I when I read 5-11 and 270 without a picture I think bullshit straight away.

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So you went through other poster’s profiles to determine what you should put in yours? Allllrighty then. As for “5’11” 270 with no pic?" I know mundane tasks must be very tedious for one so intelligent as you, but in each person’s profile there is a link titled"Photos." Nice bike, by the way, Prof. The proper color, too. Nobody said that all military personnel are skinny and weak, just that those who aren’t don’t JUST rely on their PT to getbigger and stronger. Also, I don’t think anybody thinks that all soldiers need to be massive and huge, and inflexible(on that note, google Flex Wheeler, and maybe Patrick Lynn as well.), but that a little bodybuilding-type training could help some of them maintain better bodies.

 A dude who can easily handle 100 lb. dumbbells is going to load ordinance a lot faster and more easily than a 6'1" 160 lb. stick.  What about hauling heavy gear under fire?  Better get the skinny badass, I guess.  They are known for being able to haul a lot of cargo.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Agreed. I let it go on too long myself.[/quote]

No I let it go on too long. I’m sorry for your lack of understanding.

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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:

Also, I was saying that I don’t believe any of you cunts in here with your measurements.

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Umm, NO.
In response to:

You said:

You’re saying the reason you typed that (fair to presume “that” was in reference to “6’1 and 160”, meaning what is written in your profile) was because you think bullshit when you read 5-11 and 270.

And we’re the clueless ones here right?
eye-roll

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Magarhe wrote:

Dude all my insults are tongue in cheek. However you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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Was that tongue in cheek?

They are fucking facts in my eyes. Bodybuilders make shit anything. This guy I used to play basketball with over in Austrlia on exchange took up bodybuilding. He did it so well that he won a Natural title. His basketball suffered immensely. He used to dunk, run fast, be agile and almost the complete package. You should see the sad cunt now. Cant even make his way up and down the court. Despite squating over 500 lbs he can’t dunk.

He can’t even perform a simple movement such as passing a ball around his back due to his gigantic lats and limited flexability.

Fuck me. That could be written for half the people on this site. Proffessor X for one!

Who makes them an expert? You? Who said I haven’t served. Maybe you would be surprised to hear the extent of my military service and my current occupation.

No. What I might do is prove you all wrong. How about I start a Training Journal. I will do hundreds of push ups, pull ups and etc. Take before and after photos and then prove all you mofo’s wrong.

You guys can even set the diet. I’ll follow it to the letter.

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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Kratos wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
TSB?

Indeed. sleepjin, is all kinds of lost on what he is saying. Or maybe it just seems that way because he’s so smart and we’re all stupid(I guess???).

Spot on Spartacus. Way to come in and throw your support behind X. It’s almost like high school. People want to be ‘in’ with the local tuff guy.

Maybe you will be lucky and he will put you on as a friend.[/quote]

What the Hell is the Spartacus Travel Guide?

I happen to agree with what the Prof is saying. If I thought otherwise I’d say so. I’m no fanboy. You CAN disagree with someone without attacking them. At least he’s basing what he’s saying on some sort of logic and sense. You on the other hand, are going in circles, and not making much sense.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
TSB?

Absolutely!

I can’t believe it didn’t come out sooner.

Is he saying he didn’t type his real measurements in his profile because he didn’t think people would believe him?

So he lied and put tall/skinny measurements?

I don’t get it, but then, I’m not one of the smart ones here.

Agreed. I let it go on too long myself.[/quote]

TSB

This thread is dead…

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[quote]Kratos wrote:
Nice bike, by the way, Prof. The proper color, too. [/quote]

That bike brought tears to my eyes … and I mean that literally.

http://www.T-Nation.com/myTNation.do?id=2310

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[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
You’re saying the reason you typed that (fair to presume “that” was in reference to “6’1 and 160”, meaning what is written in your profile) was because you think bullshit when you read 5-11 and 270.

And we’re the clueless ones here right?
eye-roll[/quote]

Nobody likes a 5-11, 270 female so I had to make myself sound good.

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[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:

Who said I’m male?

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LOL!!

So you are lying about your measurements and now lying about your sex? Mind you, you are doing all of this lying because you saw some stats and didn’t see a picture so you thought it was bullshit?

This argument just passed up stupid and ran straight into dumbfuck.

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[quote]Kratos wrote:
What the Hell is the Spartacus Travel Guide?
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Your old beach shot looked similar.

Google it.