Hi,
I have a question:
People often say push-ups will not make one relatively big and strong, yet I have met many Marines/Army soldiers who have gotten relatively big, and quite strong, simply from doing hundreds of push-ups all day long??
If your goal is to be relatively big and strong, are push-ups really a bad way to train?
Thanks,
Max
while there are many other ways to train, why not try doing a shit ton of pushups every day and see what happens?
You just might get better at doing pushups, and maybe some muscle might start to take shape. who’d’ve thunk it?
in all honesty, a couple hundred pushups a day is probably a good thing as it aids in increasing training frequency as well as creating increased blood flow (active recovery).
What I’m saying is that it probably wouldn’t hurt to be doing them.
Besides, the only training equipment you need for this is the floor, or some ground.
[quote]madmaxs wrote:
Hi,
I have a question:
People often say push-ups will not make one relatively big and strong, yet I have met many Marines/Army soldiers who have gotten relatively big, and quite strong, simply from doing hundreds of push-ups all day long?
If your goal is to be relatively big and strong, are push-ups really a bad way to train?
Thanks
Max [/quote]
I know some big and strong Marines myself but they are no strangers to lifting iron. Most members of the military, regardless of the branch, usually have access to well-equipped weightrooms.
Most marines I know still get in the gym 2-3 times weekly. I went to military school for just over a year, and looking back now, PT served more as a feeder workout than anything.
[quote]madmaxs wrote:
doing hundreds of push-ups all day long[/quote]
Read that statement again and decide for yourself if it’s really worth it. All day long doing hundreds of push-ups versus a few minutes in the gym?
And to echo the others, most big guys I know in the military are ironheads.
Do you really think Marines just do pushups? Try strapping a 100 pound pack on your back and running all day. Try picking up a box of ammo. Try loading a howitzer. Just because you’re not in a gym doesn’t mean you’re not “working out”.
Dude, in my experience, Marine PT is generally a joke. You normally only run as fast as the slowest man, and then you do SOME pushups, pullups, and crunches. In all honesty, the only other Marines that I know of who were “big” or “cut” or whatever spent 3-5 days in the weightroom and that’s how they became “PT Studs”.
DD
PS: This whole “we do pushups all day long” thing generally ends in bootcamp.
Now everybody be honest, how many of you viewed this thread because you thought the title was:
How can marines get strong from pus…sy!
I can vouch for the fact that doing a bunch of pushups doesn’t make you big.
I mean growing up, we all knew the kid that was huge…I mean nice pecs, well-rounded shoulders, a v-tapered back, arms that made you feel like a girl…and all he did was pushups…well, I’m betting he’d look the same without ever having done any pushups.
I actually gave this a shot about a year ago. I didn’t have a gym membership, and money was really tight. I started at like 3 sets of 20 which was all I could do. I worked myself up to doing sets of 100 no problem. I bet the guys at work one day that I could do 150 in a row…and I did.
Anyway, I did this for like 2 months straight…I worked through soreness, just like I assumed the guys in boot camp would have to…and I gained a total of nothing the whole two months. Now, I mean if it’s all you have, then by all means, do the pushups…I felt great about myself. There’s nothing like dropping and doing 100 pushups on command if need be…but as far as getting big, or strong, pushups definately aren’t the answer, by themselves.
As someone pointed out, the folks in boot camp are doing much more than just pushups. They’re doing push ups, chin ups, climbing, running with weights, and probably lifting a lot of equipment that would be like deadlifting and curling, and so on. They’re definately doing full-body and compound movements.
Not to mention, they come out fully shredded…so any muscle they did have that wasn’t visible before going, and any muscle they did happen to build while in boot camp, will then be visible.
[quote]helga wrote:
Now everybody be honest, how many of you viewed this thread because you thought the title was:
How can marines get strong from pus…sy!
[/quote]
Me.
My bro used to do pushups and run and had a great physique. First time he went to the gym he could bench 180 pounds, weighing 160. I think it gives a good base especially if you are weak at the start. But he also did stuff like one hand pushups, clapping pushups, pushups with weight etc. I don’t think only pushups can work for a long period of time unless you weigh a lot. Personaly I think it’s a good stamina exercise that can help your benchpressing and is sometimes fun to substitute with.
Also I see some people respond to pushups differently then others who get nothing out of it. It could be nutrition, genetics and all kinds of things, but try it and see what happens. It won’t hurt you to try.
PS. I suggest you train the back part of your shoulder if you do that program…
It makes you functionally strong but doesn’t necessarily make you big and clumsy like a bodybuilder.
I know a few guys in the Military and they are hard & fit bastards. Getting under a barbell only makes you look tuff. Push ups and military style training will make you the real deal.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
It makes you functionally strong but doesn’t necessarily make you big and clumsy like a bodybuilder.
I know a few guys in the Military and they are hard & fit bastards. Getting under a barbell only makes you look tuff. Push ups and military style training will make you the real deal.
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The sad thing is, you actually wrote this crap with a straight face.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The sad thing is, you actually wrote this crap with a straight face.[/quote]
Let’s see you do an obstacle course with that cumbersome 270 pounds.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The sad thing is, you actually wrote this crap with a straight face.
Let’s see you do an obstacle course with that cumbersome 270 pounds.[/quote]
Let’s see you ignore the many scrawny guys in the military who can do a ton of pushups but have no real strength to speak of. There are many people in the military who are big and who lift weights primarily as they form of training.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The sad thing is, you actually wrote this crap with a straight face.
Let’s see you do an obstacle course with that cumbersome 270 pounds.[/quote]
My money’s on X
[quote]madmaxs wrote:
Hi,
I have a question:
People often say push-ups will not make one relatively big and strong, yet I have met many Marines/Army soldiers who have gotten relatively big, and quite strong, simply from doing hundreds of push-ups all day long?
[/quote]
I was in the Army and I hate to admit that the most impressive physiques I have ever seen were on a couple of SAS guys who claimed to have never lifted a BB or DB.
Their PT consisted of the simple things in life such as obs courses, run-dodge-jump, lugging 40kg packs along with weapons for 25+ km, push ups, pull ups, burpees, bayonet assault courses and just general hard living.
I have worked in bodybuilding gyms and I rate the typical bodybuilding physique highly, but these guys were something else. Massive, in proportion, less than 8% fat, can run like greyhounds, gorilla strength, and so on.
I know I will never see anything more impressive than those Diggers.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The sad thing is, you actually wrote this crap with a straight face.
Let’s see you do an obstacle course with that cumbersome 270 pounds.[/quote]
Do you know how many scrawny Marines I’ve seen puss out on the rope portion of the O-Course because they’re too weak to make it more than 2 feet off the ground?
Do you know how many EXTRA times myself and other Marines who lifted had to climb the rope in order for our squad not to get disqualified on a squad comp?
ANSWER: Out of a 13 man squad, 6 made it up on their own. Three of us had to climb the rope 7 more times to make up for the guys who couldn’t get to the top. Shitty ratio.
DD
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Let’s see you ignore the many scrawny guys in the military who can do a ton of pushups but have no real strength to speak of. There are many people in the military who are big and who lift weights primarily as they form of training. [/quote]
That might come from the fact that they only eat their 3 square meals a day and don’t give a shit about getting huge.
What is real strength for the military? Surely it is being able to carry a weapon and kit, haul ass when needed, and to support their rifle when shooting. I’m tipping they can do that.
[quote]deapee wrote:
My money’s on X[/quote]
Oh that’s sweet. X has got a groupie. Even tried to rip the style of avatar off.