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Im done with my 2 week cycle. And here is the verdict: “GOOD GOD! IT IS THE SSHIITT!!” Ok, now that’s out of the way.

I am an 18 year old male training for close to a year. Before the cycle, I was 182 at about 14% BF. Now, 14 days later. I am 194 at about 15% BF. Visually, I am considerably more muscular and vascular. I had very good strength gains.

My training and diet consisted of about 4000 calories average (I didn't follow the Massive eating protocal). But I did eat quite a bit more than I am used to. I took one dose a day, but did a double dose on my first rest day. I increased my volume by 5 sets for an average total of 20 sets per workout. I trained each muscle group once a week, 5 days a week at a very high intensity. And I did NOT follow the Growth Surge Project.

I used Muscle Milk by CytoSport, Advanced Protein, Surge, protein bars... and MAG-10 of course. And I generally followed the "What foods Make You Look Good Naked" advice on foods to eat. I averaged 400 grams of protein per day.

The pumps were outstanding. You can feel the blood burning. However, it tasted like shit and burned like a bitch. And I did notice that I was not sleeping at well at night. But who cares?

I am going to follow up with a 2 week cycle of Tribex and M. Then start my next cycle.

Thanks Biotest!

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Free M was only for those who pre ordered before a certain date.

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Not many people have told us how much strength they have gained while using Mag-10. C’mon guys, have the poundages been going up dramatically?

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Are your gains based on the one dose a day or two dose a day protocol?

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As I mentioned in my post, I took one dose per day but did a double dose on my first rest day about 4 days into the cycle.

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Since you asked…my squats have gone up by about 20 pounds (and that’s in addition to the 20 pounds I’d already added just from bulking calories in the last 2 months). But I don’t look different, and my pumps are the same as they always were, so I’m not having the extraordinaty immediate visual response like the rest of you.

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I’m right on par with Akicita…max squat increased 20 lbs in my two weeks to 405…bench increased 7.5 lbs, weighted chins increased 2.5lbs. (but then again, my weight also went up by 10lbs.), deadlift up 15 lbs., list goes on…this was with one dose per day (two one Day 1 to load), one training day per bodypart with 4 training days per week (did not follow growth surge project). Increased calories from 3700 to about 5000 at 40% carb, 40 pro, 20 fat, seven meals a day . Started at 5’10", 199lbs, 12% BF…am now 209, 13% BF after two weeks…definitely was a bit skeptical at first, but not any longer…

Quick question for anyone who can help: After one more two week cycle of Mag-10, I am thinking of possibly cutting some fat, and therefore saving my third bottle of Mag-10 for the Summer (I think someone mentioned that it would be better to use Androsol or something to retain LBM when cutting as opposed to Mag-10 which should be saved for bulking). How long will one of the bottles retain its potency? Will it be good to use 5 months from now?

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Would there be any value in using androsol the two weeks leading up to the Mag-10 cycle?

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Stu, I’d make sure every meal had a good
amount of carbs.

As for using Androsol beforehand, I’d only
do it if the MAG-10 cycle were longer than
2 weeks and this Androsol phase were for
heavy dieting; or if the MAG-10 phase
were for only 2 weeks, then morning-only
use for the Androsol (and again, this would
be a heavy-cutting situation not a bulking
situation.)

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In a recent message Bill Roberts talked about using androsol in the morning after a 2 week cylce of Mag-10. I have half a bottle of androsol left from a month ago and would like to fit it in somehow. Could somebody explain using the androsol for cutting, etc? Also has my androsol lost any potency sitting half used in my closet the last month or so?

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does anybody know when i should eat P&C meals as apposed to P&F meals. and also if my calories are 4500 a day and i aet six times aday do i split them up to be the same calories at every meal. what is the breakdown… thanx for any help… just ordered my mag-10 and tribex,m and i am ready. just need to figure out diet issues. thanx for any help.

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Has anybody noticed a period of rapid weight gain after getting off Mag-10? I gained 4 pounds apparently YESTERDAY and it continues today.

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I just finished my 2 weeks of Mag-10 and I am up 4lbs.  I feel like I put on more.  My pumps at the gym are great.  What was more impressive was my strength gains.  Bench press went from 10 reps at 225 to 15 reps at 225.  I didn't bother to max out at 1rep.  I did 3/4 cap in the morning and evening.  174-178lbs.
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I’d say it’s best to do your P+F meals either before workouts or just before bed (to keep blood sugar in check), while P+C meals are definitely best upon waking and after workouts, when your body is most in need of quick replenishment.

ps Day 11 is tomorrow, and I've gained 6-7 pounds. I've been getting unsolicited comments on broader shoulders and more thickness, so it actually seems to be working beyond expectations! I'll do some bnodyfat measurements at the end of my first recovery phase to be absolutely sure it's working (I'm still skeptical)...

You guys let us know what happens during your recovery phases. Does anybody else think the Massive Eating guidelines might be a bit too much for a recovery phase? I would think the goal here would be to maintain weight, but I think I’ll probably be gaining (fat?) at that calorie level if my natural hormone production is somewhat repressed as expected.

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I have 4 bottles of Nandrosol left. Would it be of any benefit to stack it with MAG-10. (40? 70? sprays 2x/day) Or save it, and just use it with an Androsol stack?

Everyone has been talking about whether using Androsol with MAG-10 would be of benefit, but I don’t think I have seen a similar discussion about the use of Nandrosol.

Thanks!

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It’s very interesting you mention that… because I had the exact same thing happen to me TODAY. I jumped from 185 to 189 in one day. Also, today I felt my pumps more than ever. I have never felt that huge in my life. Here is how the weight gain occured. Day 1 - 182 (Day 1 evening - 183.5), Day 2- 185, Day 3 - 189. The only thing I can think of is that the first two days was the extra calories. And last night and during the day today, the MAG-10 hit. Maybe it has something to do with the half-life. Not sure. I know I did not eat any more today than I had been the past few days. And even if I had eaten extra calories. It was certainly not enough to make me gain 4 lbs in a 24hr period.

I think it's true. Mag-10 is everything they hyped it up to be... actually even better than expected in my opinion. Several people have already noticed the gains I have made already. Let me remind everyone. I have been on this stuff for a total of 3 days now (today is Wed... I started Mon morning...yep that makes three) and I have already gained 7lbs. Also, I have only increased my calories by 1500. All I can say is that I am very impressed so far. If I keep it up, I'll have gained 20lbs in 2 weeks not 8. Here is an interesting point to add: I have noticed very little strength gain. I guess I need to give a while longer... I mean heck 3 days...what was I thinking... Anyhow, I will keep you posted on how my cycle ends.

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ps Your post-workout meals should definitely be the largest. If you’re eating every 3 hours, you should have about four 675 cal meals, and two 900 cal meals (post-workout) on workout days to equal 4500 cal. Non-workout days the meals should be more evenly divided. It also probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to make your first meal of the day larger than your last to prevent fat gain.

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Bill - I don’t know what you put in that bottle, but it scared the hell out of me! Holly Hell!..I think that might be an oxymoron.

Anyway, how can I put this…if they were giving out Academy Awards for supplements, they’d rename it the Roberts award. I don’t know how much Biotest is paying you, but you need a raise. Give that man a raise Biotest! And get back to work Bill, I’m ready for your next brainchild…I think. And by the way Biotest, when can I buy some stock?

Look, I don’t hand out praise readily, in fact I’m a lot better at tearing shit up, that’s why I’m a good lawyer. So a compliment from me is a big deal.

The bottom line is you’re a freak Bill, and I mean that in a good way. Hell, I’m used to people getting out of my way in a gym, but if I see you in a gym I will bow.

O.K., not that I’ve blow your ego to geometric proportions (hell, you seem like a humble guy), let me tell you about my experience with your silver bullet this evening.

First, I should give you some background. I’m no stranger to working out. I’ve been training since I was 10, with some of the best powerlifters and bodybuilders around. My point is, I pretty much know what I’m doing…I’m as hardcore as they come. So, I have had some incredible workouts.

Hell, I was competing with men in meets when I was 14, squatting and deading 500, and benching 300. And I’ve always done it clean. Too many look for shortcuts, and aren’t willing to pay the price…I have. I train, and train intense…and have shed blood, sweat and tears for every last ounce of my muscle, and consider it a compliment when people look at me and think I achieved what I did through steroids (doesn’t say much about them).

But recently, I felt like I was really starting to top out, reaching my genetic potential, if you will. I'm 29, and I think the old natural testosterone is starting to slow up. So, I've been looking for that edge, so I put my faith in your product. And I mean faith, because I started to question myself, after reading some real bullshit on other website message boards (even though everything else I’ve used by you guys has been incredible...I know, I know, I'm sorry. Never again. Once, bitten, twice shy...you know).

All right so back to my experience. Although, I caught a cold recently (a rarity), I’ve been going stir crazy not having worked out for a week and a half. And for the last two weeks or so, those bottles of Mag 10 have been starring at me, calling my name. But I had made the decision to wait till next year to take them for a test drive when things slowed down a little at work.

But tonight, I said fuck it! I'm training...let's just try it once (I had been reading about too people's experiences). So down the hooch (and whoever's bitching about the taste are a bunch of pussies. That's right! I said it. The day you put taste, form over function, is that day that you become EAS. Suck it up T-"Men"). Right away, I felt that warm blanket come over me, that surge of power and confidence. All I can say is, I'm glad that kid that picked on in second grade wasn't standing there in front of me when I felt that (actually I was the school bully), and I'm that there was a gym close by to unleash the beast!

Alright so I roll into the gym, and slap on my headset and there it was, Rage Against the Machine. I was ready…or so I thought.

First, pull-ups. I felt strong baby. Then came the test beat my last workout …three 45’s between the legs. I got five last time. I felt pretty good about that. Then, I got seven, and remember I’m still sick. I would have been happy with getting 5 again.

Next, incline dumbbells (on a 70 - 75 degree). I got up to my weight from last time 125’s. And that’s when I felt it… total insanity. Blood just pumping through the veins, total rage like no one’s business. And my forearms were so pumped already; I almost couldn’t close my grip around the dumbbell. Then, I took my normal three deep breaths, kneed up the weights, and I almost blacked out. Yep! Then, I put down the weights, composed myself, and then took one only one deep breath and blew out a solid six. I have never felt that strong…ever, especially sick. Once, I got up from the bench, I looked the guy next to me and he immediately looked away. I then looked in the mirror and said, “Holy Shit!” I saw my veins in face, and the rest of my body for that matter, just about to explode. Jesus! I have never had a pump like that. Hell…I’m having a hard time typing this email.


And that’s pretty much how my workout went…insanity, and I loved it! Thank God for straps, and even then those almost didn’t work. I’m definitely going to do the prep training over the next couple of weeks, especially with my forearms before I start my cycle for real next year.

All I can say is dreams do come true. Thanks Bill and Biotest. Now get back to work!

P.S. By the way, I don’t think that I can call my self natural anymore, what do you think Bill?

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After reading so many of these posts and all of the articles on MAG-10, I still want to go for six weeks straight (Personal reasons, not because I don’t trust your opinions). Is six weeks too long to notice continued gains? How would I come off; the same as if only on two weeks (3 M and 6 Tribex per day for two weeks, Longer, more of each?) What are the Major disadvantages of staying on long, what advantages can I notice staying on? The big question, how long after six weeks on does testicular function normalize with the use of both M and Tribex? Thanks

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I have my Mag 10 but not using it yet, I need to get back into shape after a few month layoff due to the birth of my son. Anyway, I am curious to see when everyone takes their Mag 10. Pre-workout, 1st thing in the morning, post-workout… you get the picture. In faith - Matt