Day 9: I’m now up to 213 from a starting weight of 205. However, I’ve gained a small amount of BF, which is to be expected considering the big increase in calories. I’m now at a point where a tape measure isn’t needed, because the size gain is visually obvious. Outstanding product!
Hey guys…been using MAG-10 for a week now, like it so far, great pump, energy level is up 24 hours a day. Just wondering, should you take doses of MAG-10 on an empty stomach, or should you not eat anything for a while after taking it, or does it matter?
Day 7 – I am amazed. Have been lazy for the last 10 months, since tearing r. shoulder, and gained 30 lbs of fat. Started out at 230 lbs 6.0 tall, 46 yrs old. After one week on Mag-10 I am up 5 lbs – but the fat is disappearing around my middle. The old tire is deflating like crazy. Chest and arms are noticably larger. I have been doing surge w/out protocol, and T-Dawg diet (with some extra carbs after 2nd w/out.) I have taken careful measurements, and it is going to be interesting to see where I end up after 12 weeks. BTW, I have never gotton my wieghts back up this fast after a layoff. If this keeps up, I will be ready for some PR in < one month.
Chris, do you have any idea of when we will know the halflife of this stuff? That would be a big help in knowing which dosage to take, and possibly a pocketbook saver as well.
Choad, it’s definitely OK to take two doses
of one cap as opposed to one dose of 1.5 caps.
Whether the extra half-cap will benefit you,
I’m not sure, but certainly results cannot be less. For that matter, two doses of 3/4 cap (totalling 1.5 caps) would be at least equal and possibly a little better than one dose of 1.5 caps.
The label dosing was basically set where
the maximum dose (1.5 caps 2x/day) is where we are absolute-damn-lutely sure that more could
not be beneficial. And the minimum recommended dosing is that minimum which we are still sure
will give good results for most users (possibly essentially maximal results, but time will tell) and where reducing dose yet further would be expected to reduce gains.
Tiddles, it definitely does seem the duration
of action is long enough for 1x/day dosing to work. While I also want the half-life information, I don’t see where it would save money to have it – wouldn’t change total
amount needed per day.
Since that is being determined as part of
the university study being contracted for,
I don’t know exactly when the half-life information will be available. A rough figure should be available reasonably soon.
I don’t have my MAG-10 yet (should’ve pre-ordered!) but will receive it in a few days. Currently I can only train each muscle about once a week or so using no supplements other than Surge and AP.
During a 2 week cycle, this does’nt equate to very many training sessions per muscle. I realize MAG-10 might accelerate recovery somewhat but would such a training frequency inhibit my gains?
I posted this in an earlier thread, but I guess it just got buried.
Got mine today! Will start Monday because I need to stock the fridge, order some more AP, and pile the pantry full of oatmeal! Can’t wait to get started!
I got around the making the slight adjustments to the split that I had written about a few days ago, and was wondering what you thought:
Basically, I just swapped A & C days, and changed the days that I’m resting (although I’m still training 10 out of 14). Here it is: Day 1: Workout C (Chest AM, Arms PM), 2: B (Quad-dominant AM, Hip-dominant PM), 3: A (Back AM, Shoulders PM), 4: OFF, 5: C, 6: B, 7:OFF, 8: A, 9:OFF (changed from original), 10: C, 11: B, 12: A, 13: OFF, 14: C.
Basically, it allows me to prioritize arms (my weak point) by having one additional training session for them, and never training upper body the day after I hit them. The only thing I’m worried about is: does Day 14 need to be an off day to complete the cycle with a resting day to rebuild on high calories, or was that just the way the split worked out? Thanks for all your help.
Hey guys, I’ve been training for about 5 years, and I like to think I’m fairly open minded. But does anyone else think that the two-a-day training, including squats and deadlifts, won’t throw you into and overtraining coma? I realize getting enough calories plays a huge part, but it still seems like too much to me. Comments?
A double split routine can be pretty intense but most people can make through a short time span of two weeks without getting overtrained provided you get ample rest after the two weeks and if you use Mag-10 in conjunction with a double split program you make the risk of overtraining even less.
Eric- Looks pretty good to me. Go for it.
Hey Bill I have a question for you- For the past three months I have been on a mass phase but it took me about a month to get my diet dialed in correctly. Once I got my diet figured out I put on 11 lbs and dropped my bodyfat from approx 8% to approx 6.5% (with skin calipers). Since I seemed to be on a roll I decided to just continue the mass phase and add Mag-10 right into the middle of it. However since starting the Mag-10 I have only gained about 1.5 lbs (I am currently 5’6 tall 179 lbs 6.5%bf)but I have had a slightly noticable strength increase and GREAT pumps so I know the Mag-10 is doing something. But anyway my question is- Do you think the reason I didn’t gain much muscle after starting the Mag-10 has to do with the 11+ lbs I put on in the previous month? Thanks for your time- AKIRA
Normally, I always make a point of including whole eggs in my diet. Since Mag-10 works best with a higher carb, moderate fat intake, should I lay off the egg yolks for a while? The reason I ask is that I’m already eating lean red meat, flaxseed oil, and fish oil and CLA capsules, and I’m already at 20% of daily intake (which is the most I want fat to be). I realize that cholesterol is important for creating hormones, but do you think I’ll have enough without egg yolks? Right now, my last meal of the day is 3/4 casein, 1/4 whey, with 10 fish oil caps and 2 CLA. Would it be a bad idea to toss in a few whole eggs in addition to or in lieu of these things? Any input from those already on their cycles would be appreciated. Thanks.
When prepping the MAG-10 FAQ article, I had written that you should not limit any macronutrient when on MAG-10. My fear was that someone would go on a drastic low carb diet (not smart when really looking to add mass of course) and then complain about the product’s results. Bill corrected me a little on that and said that of all the macros, fat should be limited in favor of getting more protein and carbs. Since he knows more than me about “anabolic eating” I took his word for it and ate that way during my last Androsol cycle. Results were good and despite all the carbs (I ate AP mixed with oatmeal three or four times per day) I didn’t gain much fat. I lowered the dietary fat, but I still took my usual 15 caps of fish per day and had a little flax or Flax-O-Meal.
So, based on Bill’s advice and my experience, I would suggest that everyone get more P+C meals and not as many P+F meals if using Massive Eating and/or the Growth Surge guidelines.
As for your specific question, do you need those calories from egg yolks to meet your daily caloric goal? Would those calories you use up for eggs be better “spent” on complex carbs and protein? If it were me, I’d have a yolk or two, no big deal, but would put most of my digestive powers toward protein and carbs. Still, get your good fats as usual. Fish oil caps should be a staple supplement, regardless of whether one is bulking or cutting.
i was wondering if i went on mag-10 and bumped up my food intake soooo much would i get fat at first? i am very small framed and put on fat easy and muscle very hard. i want to try mag-10 but i am skeptical about products that claim so much. i have tried andro and creatine with no real results… i would be prime example for mag-10. if it works on me then i know it will work on everybody… i am 5-6 132pounds. anyone with any advice? im sitting here with credit card in hand, but i have been fooled before and iam skeptical… someone please change my mind, i want to order… 
What is your bodyfat? At 5’6 and only 132 lbs. I have a very hard time believing you put on fat easily when increasing your calories if you are below 15% bodyfat. MAG-10, like other anabolic/androgenic agents will allow you to put more muscle on than fat when on a hypercaloric diet. It’s that simple. Whether you should use it depends on a lot of factors and bodyfat % and bodyweight are definitely two of them.
Craig, give Mag-10 a shot. I was very skeptical too, but, and I’m sure I’m speaking for lots of people here, I have definitely noticed results after only a week of using it. A little gain in bodyfat should be expected, but what you will probably gain in lean weight (provided your diet and training is right) will make that little bit of fat seem insignificant.
Akira, absolutely. While I don’t think anyone knows the mechanism, how the body “keeps track” so to speak of the fact that it’s recently grown a great deal and therefore concludes that it’s time to rest from growing for a while, this definitely seems to be how it operates.
Good thing too, or else kids might have growth spurts running right into the next growth spurt right into the next one, etc. and gain a foot in a few months.
I would still expect you can over the course
of 2 weeks make a quite noticeable further gain,
but it would certainly be much less than
someone who hadn’t gained much muscle in a while.
It might be “only” 5 lb.
Of course, 5 lb in two weeks is still quite
a rate. If continued, it would for example
be 20 lb in 8 weeks. So it’s not slow at all.
The infrequent training can work fine. When “on-cycle” with serious androgens, a single day’s work for a bodypart – preferably two workouts in that day though – can yield amazing results, provided there hasn’t already been a lot of recent growth in that bodypart.
My preference for that is 20 or a little more
sets for biceps+back, or triceps+chest+shoulders, or 20 for legs+abs,
or similar workloads differently split. That’s assuming weights of about 75-80% 1RM and
slow negatives.
thanks scott and steve… my bodyweight is 132 pounds and my bf% is around 7%. i think iam going to try the mag-10 with tribex and m cycle. i am going to try two weeks mag-10 and then two weeks tribex and m then another two on of mag-10 then to finish two of tribex and m.i am going to figure out my diet exactly before starting and my training also. thanx for the advice. if anything else please let me know… thanx again.