Huck, I took Mag-10 for 2 weeks. My nuts got huge during the cycle, have shrunk since even with Tribex and M. Mag-10 is exponentially the strongest supplement I’ve ever taken. I won’t even consider more than a 2 week cycle because it is so strong…
pnfdog, that doesn’t sound good. I did a 10 day cycle, using 2 caps/day and got great results, with no appreciable shrinkage, though my libido seems to have been truncated since coming off. I am sure it will bounce back. I am most concerned with the possibility of any long term or permanent shrinkage. Please can I have a response from Bill or someone else with formal experience in this area?
I think bill has said there’s no risk of shrinkage if you stick to the guidelines suggested. And even if you don’t, then any shrinkage is temporary, just like with “real” steroids.
Another datapoint – I’m 35, been training 4 years. Sunday I was 5’9" and 163# at 9% BF. Started 2 doses a day on Monday, eating 4600-4800 calories a day. Thursday morning I was still 5’9" :-), but at 171#. This blows my mind … it has to mostly be fluid and fat (I’ve gained about 1mm on the waistline skinfold measurement).
The twice a day training is kicking my butt … in particular my legs are still real sore but tomorrow is the next leg day. So I’m wondering if I should listen to my body and insert an extra rest day, or trust in the chemicals. 
Personally, I think you should listen to your body and take the extra day off. You’ve had great gains (as have I - about 9 lbs). I started feeling sick with sore throat, fever, etc. I took an extra day off and started feeling much better. I have 2 training days left.
I have never felt so pumped in all my life. This stuff is truly amazing.
Bill, about theoretical improvements in other products or Mag-10 itself, what about if Biotest found an ester even more effective than the EC ester? The ester is the only part of Mag-10 I still have questions about.
I want to try MAG 10, but Im confused on which essential supplements Im going to need. There are so many! Will using MAG 10, Tribex, M and Surge be sufficient? Will I need Advanced Protein and Grow! as well?? Please help!
Sunday I was 5’9", now I’m 6’1"! This stuff is great! I hope it’s not all water. Anyone had similar gains?!
I took 1.5 caps of Mag-10 2x a day. I am quite happy with the results and gains. But I unfortunately had to quit the 2 week cycle early. I became very moody and angry and even broke some items in my home due to being frustated over nothing.I could control the anger but needed to release it as well. As soon as I quit Mag-10 I lost that “bad sense of well being feeling” right away. If I deceide to try another cycle maybe I should only use 1 cap a day instead. All I know is my hormones went wacko and even my sex drive died but did come back after the cycle! I’ve used most Biotest products but never had this kind of reaction. Fortunately, my body fat remained the same but my weight went up about a good 6lbs. I didn’t eat the calories I should of but I did consume good quality protein and food. Also I lost size off my waist. My strengths went up quite a bit the week after my cycle! I am also using “M”.I feel really good on it! I don’t really understand why I did so much better after the cycle and felt bad during it. Either way, it did more than I expected and am impressed!
Ok, sounds like Mag10 is great stuff and so ive bought a bottle today. My query is that I am about to go on a cutting cycle, so should I wait until Ive completed that before using it, use it first and then start my cutting cycle, or just use it during the cutting cycle? To be honest after reading everyone elses experience with the stuff im not sure I can wait to use it! If I use it will trying to lose bodyfat will I still be able to put on ANY lean muscle or would it just be a waste of the Mag10?
I was wondering if Bill or anybody had information or anecdotes about aerobic performance and Mag-10. Not aerobic performance as in watching the ladies in skimpy outfits dance, but things like running, swimming, rowing, biking, etc. I’m interested in the strength and size gains from Mag-10, but worried about the impact on my endurance and speed. Obviously bulking up will slow me down a little, but are there any direct effects on anarobic theshold, endurance, fat metabolism, etc?
Thanks a lot, I’m really looking forward to getting on this stuff!
Dave
Hi guys I thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.I have another one, I understand when you say that you will probably not add anything else to Mag10 but rather might have something to go along with it,but is there a chance you could increase the concentration of the compounds already in MAG10 in future batches thus making a stronger product or is that unlikely?
Akicita, as you know, what particular ester is introduced systemically (as opposed to orally) isn’t important in terms of potency but only in terms of half-life. So the question of whether a different ester of androst-1-ene would be better or not really hinges only on whether a higher percentage reaches the bloodstream intact, or whether the half-life is more favorable for the purpose.
I wouldn’t be adverse to using a different member of the carbonate series of esters should it happen that our research reveals better absorption for another member, combined with adequate chemical stability and appropriate half-life. The ethyl is certainly quite satisfactory and on physicochemical data currently available (which does not include quantitated oral absorption data however) seemed the best, hence the choice for MAG-10.
Sung you really dont “need” any other supplements although protein powder, surge or mrps will help with your nutrition. I’d say the best thing to do is make sure you have enough $$ to purchase all the food you’re gonna need to consume. Nothing worse then being in the midst of a bulking cycle and running out of food
d.t. dawg you’ll most likely find the mag 10 will enhance your endurance and sporting performance. Red blood cells usually increase when on a cycle (not sure if mag 10 does this but I assume it would) and with the extra blood comes extra oxygen as well therefore enhancing cardiovascular capacity. Any anabolic will definitely increase speed and explosiveness as well through neural and muscular stimulation.
i just started my second week of mag-10 and the new bottle, while properly packaged and sealed, tastes different than the first–as if there’s some kind of flavoring to it. and the consistency is a bit different. i know that biotest is too busy meeting the demand to apply exacting QA, but i just wanna be sure that this second bottle has all the sugar and spice and everything nice a bottle of mag-10 should.
anyone else notice inconsistency between bottles?
I have just received my bottle of Mag-10. Working in research, I have a DEXA in my office. So before I started this supp, I had a DEXA done. I will repeat a DEXA after I finish my “cycle” and post the before and after numbers. I plan on a front load followed by once-a-day Mag-10 and eating more than adequately.
Day 3: Weight is up 3 pounds. No noticeable fat gain. Two doses on first day, one per day thereafter. Training twice per day. No changes in terms of strength or pump yet. With the exception of arms, each of the muscle groups that I’ve worked have been very sore the next day. I have found it very easy to get in all the extra calories, so it is obviously having an effect on my appetite.
Geo, by no means is it a lack of quality
assurance that the current taste is different
than the initial taste. Instead, what it
is is that we decided to release the product
at a point where taste was deemed acceptable
but still where more work was required to
get where we really wanted to be. (Rather
than delaying release another couple of months.)
So, there may be some further taste changes
as well. They don’t affect efficacy and
at the current time, we’ve had no reason
to change amounts of active components. (If
we do make such a change in the future, it
will be for the better: but right now,
since we’re optimized so far as we know,
neither direction of possible change is
known to be an improvement, hence, we’re
making no change now.)
Thanks for the reply. My other concern is this…Ive always been taught steroids and the like are lethally dangerous, and that they are in the same category as crack cocaine (health risk factor) Also all this hysteria and skeptisism over supplements ranging from ephedrine causing heart failure to anything bought in GNC is a total waste of money, has created alot of anxiety in me about sports supplements. Bottom line…I want to get big! Im just a regualr joe working out and thinking to myself, what the heck is it going to take?? Im hearing all these great testimonials about MAG 10 and Biotest products. I want to try it, but im worried that ill die or my liver will breakdown or something from taking them. Should I be worried?? What are the health risks associated with products like Mag 10? And is Mag 10 really just a legal form of juice? Thank you all for your help… Its greatly appreciated!!
Geo, I’m also on my second bottle and was thinking lately that that it doesn’t taste nearly as bad as it used to. When I first started I really thought I was going to throw up, and couldn’t believe that people were saying that it didn’t taste so bad. I assumed that I must be getting used to the taste, but thinking about it, it’s the second bottle that’s much more pleasant than the first.