[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Every tap is like a step on the way to perfecting technique as long as you let go of ego and accept it. [/quote]
Very well said. I used to get really pissed when I got tapped but now I learn from it. I am at the point in my game where I try to do alot of stuff outside of my comfort zone and if I fail, I use it as a building block to not fail doing that again.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I have the exact same experience in BJJ. I have never been tapped by someone my size apart from one dude who is crazy good and freakishly strong for our size. The only other times I ever get tapped is by dudes about 2 or three stone heavier than me.
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You are bringing up an issue but are not seeing the real problem. The fact that the only guys who can tap you are bigger and/or stronger while those your size and strength cannot (as in never) tells me that it isn’t a strength issue but a technical one. You are not getting tapped by those your size because you are using strength to avoid it but when you can’t fall back on strength you get tapped because you lack the technique to defend yourself. I am going to make an assumption, based on experience, that you have a hard time accepting “defeat” and when you feel like your technique has failed you turn to strength to avoid tapping out. Whenever I hear someone say they have never tapped or haven’t been tapped in years I know that they are not training properly and have poor technique. You will not get better if you are not tapping because it means you are not trying to perfect technique and timing and are treating sparring like it’s a life or death competition.
When you see someone who has great sweeps you know he has experienced getting his guard passed a million times. When you see someone with a great armbar defense you know he was probably armabarred a million times on the path to developing the technique to defend it. Smart trainees will give their training partner (remember partner does not = opponent) an arm or leg or a superior position in order to work on defending. At first you have to resign yourself to the fact that you will “lose” but eventually you will get better. Every tap is like a step on the way to perfecting technique as long as you let go of ego and accept it. [/quote]
I actually do not think this is the case. I just concentrate on my defensive abilities because I am always getting smashed as a beginner. The reason is the other way around. The guys my size can’t finish me, well a lot of them, because I am technical defending the last aspect of being dominated, the application of a submission. Like a worse version of john Fitch defending against maia.
There are only one or two guys my size when I used to go I was 9 stone 10 so that was hard to do anything but learn how to defend when mounted. Obviously I tapped a lot but just not from the guys my weight. A couple of stone makes a hell of a lot of difference and the heavier guys can get a tap by purely muscling techniques against me.
Also I don’t like the idea of just giving in and not fighting off the submission and letting go, many times I have fought off an armbar or got out a locked triangle by sheer will. I think it not only builds character to endure a shit situation but also, it gives your partner live training.
What good is it having your partner not fight off a submission right till the end. The great thing about jiujitsu is that there does not seem to be any of the fake weird stuff like attacking one way while your partner rehearses his part and you get the punch or kick etc.
Obviously drilling is huge but also actually putting the techniques into a realistic setting is surely beneficial. In a fight the person won’t just tap as soon as you catch an armbar. A perfect display of this is when a newbie spazzes. high belts may even have problems controlling them as they are unpredictable and just go crazy like a guy in a fight would and don’t follow the rules of the art like someone who has training will, they are not relaxed and slow and are erratic and explosive.
If you tap straight away and don’t try with all your might to get out of a choke or a lock you are denying your training mates of a realistic simulation where they can hone their techniques under realistic conditions.
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
A perfect display of this is when a newbie spazzes. high belts may even have problems controlling them as they are unpredictable and just go crazy like a guy in a fight would and don’t follow the rules of the art like someone who has training will, they are not relaxed and slow and are erratic and explosive.[/quote]
Good point. You will see alot upper level White and Blue belts get a tap on higher belts because they might not have the experience to be able to flow from a failed sub to the next sub in the transition. Higher belts know when to give up when an opponent counters and can trainsition to the next sub and if needed go right back to the original starting point where a lower belt will just go balls out just to complete what they know and it catches alot of higher belts off guard. This is especially true when higher ranked belts are used to a more free flow of a roll with another higher ranked belt.
Hey Magick. In have just been reading starting strength and he seems to say that if you are not gaining weight and eating lots of calories SS will not work, or as he puts it, YNDTP! (You are not doing the program)
I am OK with eating at a surplus and was wondering if you have to consume carbohydrate to do this as I am broke as fuck yet for under a fiver I can get 20 large organic eggs off my local farm and 650 grams of beef from the shop.
Something like this high protein high fat no carb is something I can afford to do consistently. That is 360 grams of protein, just under 200 grams of fat. A bit of kale or broccoli and it had vitamins too.
Mendhi from stronglifts endorses the anabolic diet which I could do with this meal plan and every two weeks carb up one day.
I really want to get strong but I am on a budget. will this meal plan be sufficient in your eyes? Rippetoe does suggest “chubba hubbas” go lower carb.
Wow aparently Vince Gironda thought of this first.
That’s because SS is primarily a bulking program, and Rippetoe specifically states that it is meant to make skinny kids get big. Big being the key-term. Not necessarily stronger or more muscular. Just bigger. It’s part of the reason why people often fuck up on SS. SS requires you to be improving on squats and dead-lift by 10lb/every training day. That’s a lot, and you need to eat a lot and sleep a lot to make that even feasible.
But the programming idea behind SS and Stronglift 5x5 is what’s relevant here. Make the large compound movements the key to your program, not a bunch of random assistance lifts or isolation exercises, and do them regularly.
How long do you have till you begin BJJ? You can try SS out in its entirety if you want to while you’re not doing BJJ. I doubt you’ll be able to do SS as its written and BJJ simultaneously without seeing issues in either of the two.
The more sensible weight-increase would probably be to just choose a weight that seems blisteringly easy, then increase by 5lb a training day on everything except dead-lifts (which would be 10lb) until you reach a weight where you’re unable to finish all the required reps. Then just deload down to 60%(% pulled out of my ass) of calculated 1rm and do it again.
As for eating/physique - Just use the mirror thing I wrote earlier. You don’t want to put yourself on a limiting diet while practicing a combat sport. It’s sort of stupid to do that when you’re busting your body up everyday.
But that’s a strength program and not something you should do while practicing BJJ as frequently as you plan.
As for carbs - Why not just eat a bowl of oatmeal with each meal? Those Quakers Oats (the ones in those giant cans) are cheap, and oatmeal is good for you.
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
Also I don’t like the idea of just giving in and not fighting off the submission and letting go, many times I have fought off an armbar or got out a locked triangle by sheer will. I think it not only builds character to endure a shit situation but also, it gives your partner live training.
What good is it having your partner not fight off a submission right till the end. The great thing about jiujitsu is that there does not seem to be any of the fake weird stuff like attacking one way while your partner rehearses his part and you get the punch or kick etc.
Obviously drilling is huge but also actually putting the techniques into a realistic setting is surely beneficial. In a fight the person won’t just tap as soon as you catch an armbar. A perfect display of this is when a newbie spazzes. high belts may even have problems controlling them as they are unpredictable and just go crazy like a guy in a fight would and don’t follow the rules of the art like someone who has training will, they are not relaxed and slow and are erratic and explosive.
If you tap straight away and don’t try with all your might to get out of a choke or a lock you are denying your training mates of a realistic simulation where they can hone their techniques under realistic conditions.[/quote]
It doesn’t do any of that but rather it builds a sense of false confidence and reinforces improper technique. It is not a fight; it is training. If you get caught and are unable to escape via any means other than to use strength then just tap and give your partner credit for catching you and move on. Because, as you have noted, the bigger guys tap you regardless so your method is not working as I doubt you are taking martial arts to beat people who are physically inferior.
The fact is that people around your level should be tapping you from time to time just as you should be tapping them. If you are not tapping and you are not better than they are then it makes no sense that you are not tapping ever. It’s a sign that something is not right. There is a basic rule in BJJ: if you aren’t tapping, you aren’t learning.
The idea that defending like a madman will simulate a real situation is wrong. It is not real first of all. It is in a controlled environment which exists to facilitate learning. If you want real then let your partners drop an elbow while you struggle to escape a submission. Another thing to consider is that people are being nice and letting go before they hurt you or you hurt yourself. There is always that one guy who refuses to tap and who gets away with it because people just let their common sense override his lack of it. Then one day that person rolls with someone who doesn’t know him and/or doesn’t care if he hurts him. Some people have the attitude that if someone doesn’t want to tap then so be it, break it.
One more thing about an observation you have made that is wrong. A spazzing newbie does not present an “unpredictable” situation for an experienced person. On the contrary, by the time someone gets to a more advanced level he has seen it all. “Spazzing” is not unpredictable and uncontrollable. It is predictable as people tend to spazz in predictable ways. It is actually one of the principle ideas behind BJJ and probably most MAs. If you mount someone he is either going to go crazy and try to push you off, exposing an arm. He will roll over, exposing his back. In certain positions and situations untrained people will do certain things, which are usually the wrong things.
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
Hey Magick. In have just been reading starting strength and he seems to say that if you are not gaining weight and eating lots of calories SS will not work, or as he puts it, YNDTP! (You are not doing the program)
I am OK with eating at a surplus and was wondering if you have to consume carbohydrate to do this as I am broke as fuck yet for under a fiver I can get 20 large organic eggs off my local farm and 650 grams of beef from the shop.
Something like this high protein high fat no carb is something I can afford to do consistently. That is 360 grams of protein, just under 200 grams of fat. A bit of kale or broccoli and it had vitamins too.
Mendhi from stronglifts endorses the anabolic diet which I could do with this meal plan and every two weeks carb up one day.
I really want to get strong but I am on a budget. will this meal plan be sufficient in your eyes? Rippetoe does suggest “chubba hubbas” go lower carb.
Wow aparently Vince Gironda thought of this first.[/quote]
Where the hell are you that you can get organic eggs and grass fed beef from a local farm, but still get terrorised by local estate thugs? Your life sounds like a cross between The Wire and The Wind in the Willows.
You say you are broke, but you train BJJ? BJJ is a relatively expensive sport to train in regularly in the UK, to my knowledge. By contrast, a sport like boxing will cost you £2-3 a session, less than a tenner a week to train properly.
It’s completely your decision what you decide your priorities are. However, the whole of your original post was about training another MA so that you didn’t get your arse kicked all the time. Now you’re all about the weights. I don’t want to smash any illusions, especially on a site like this where there are a lot of big guys who think that being able to bench press some arbitrary weight automatically makes you a stone cold killer, but in my experience, it goes like this: Big accomplished fighter > smaller accomplished fighter > big > small. You’ll notice how far down the list being just big comes. It’s only really useful when you’re fighting a girly man. Otherwise, it’s just going to give you a false sense of security that someone small and mean is going to disabuse you of very violently.
Just food for thought I guess.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
Hey Magick. In have just been reading starting strength and he seems to say that if you are not gaining weight and eating lots of calories SS will not work, or as he puts it, YNDTP! (You are not doing the program)
I am OK with eating at a surplus and was wondering if you have to consume carbohydrate to do this as I am broke as fuck yet for under a fiver I can get 20 large organic eggs off my local farm and 650 grams of beef from the shop.
Something like this high protein high fat no carb is something I can afford to do consistently. That is 360 grams of protein, just under 200 grams of fat. A bit of kale or broccoli and it had vitamins too.
Mendhi from stronglifts endorses the anabolic diet which I could do with this meal plan and every two weeks carb up one day.
I really want to get strong but I am on a budget. will this meal plan be sufficient in your eyes? Rippetoe does suggest “chubba hubbas” go lower carb.
Wow aparently Vince Gironda thought of this first.[/quote]
Where the hell are you that you can get organic eggs and grass fed beef from a local farm, but still get terrorised by local estate thugs? Your life sounds like a cross between The Wire and The Wind in the Willows.
You say you are broke, but you train BJJ? BJJ is a relatively expensive sport to train in regularly in the UK, to my knowledge. By contrast, a sport like boxing will cost you �£2-3 a session, less than a tenner a week to train properly.
It’s completely your decision what you decide your priorities are. However, the whole of your original post was about training another MA so that you didn’t get your arse kicked all the time. Now you’re all about the weights. I don’t want to smash any illusions, especially on a site like this where there are a lot of big guys who think that being able to bench press some arbitrary weight automatically makes you a stone cold killer, but in my experience, it goes like this: Big accomplished fighter > smaller accomplished fighter > big > small. You’ll notice how far down the list being just big comes. It’s only really useful when you’re fighting a girly man. Otherwise, it’s just going to give you a false sense of security that someone small and mean is going to disabuse you of very violently.
Just food for thought I guess. [/quote]
My uncle works on a local farm (northerner here)I get 20 eggs off him for 2.20.
The steak is tesco frying steak, 3.00 for 650 grams.
I don’t get my ass kicked all the time but I used to get beat up a lot, mainly because I always stuck up for myself in a rough area. My thing now is I want to be able to stick up for myself and win and not be afraid of getting beat down. I am not scared of the beatings as much as I am of the humiliation of being beaten.
By the way, I think you and a few others misunderstood. The police found my motorbike that had been stolen and recently I found out one of the guys who was involved but I havent got the balls to go and fight him because he is like 200 pounds on steroids and a great fighter and I would just end up getting smashed.
I want to be able to defend myself and be a man who can fend for himself. I am ashamed I have not been round to this guys house and dragged him out but what will getting my ass whooped do for me and I won’t go to the police.
And yeah you are right training>being big, but while I am not at jiu jitsu i might as well get stronger right?
Also I have been to the local boxing gym to talk to the bloke who runs it. considering going for classes twice a week. it made me laugh there were 4 lads in there, one on a bad and 3 lifting weights. three were drug dealers, two were wearing tap out shirts. Made me chuckle.
Out of interest what is most coaches moral viewpoint on training criminals how to beat people efficiently. Is there not some ethical code not to train smack dealers how to hurt people lol?
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
[quote]sharkOnesie wrote:
Hey Magick. In have just been reading starting strength and he seems to say that if you are not gaining weight and eating lots of calories SS will not work, or as he puts it, YNDTP! (You are not doing the program)
I am OK with eating at a surplus and was wondering if you have to consume carbohydrate to do this as I am broke as fuck yet for under a fiver I can get 20 large organic eggs off my local farm and 650 grams of beef from the shop.
Something like this high protein high fat no carb is something I can afford to do consistently. That is 360 grams of protein, just under 200 grams of fat. A bit of kale or broccoli and it had vitamins too.
Mendhi from stronglifts endorses the anabolic diet which I could do with this meal plan and every two weeks carb up one day.
I really want to get strong but I am on a budget. will this meal plan be sufficient in your eyes? Rippetoe does suggest “chubba hubbas” go lower carb.
Wow aparently Vince Gironda thought of this first.[/quote]
Where the hell are you that you can get organic eggs and grass fed beef from a local farm, but still get terrorised by local estate thugs? Your life sounds like a cross between The Wire and The Wind in the Willows.
You say you are broke, but you train BJJ? BJJ is a relatively expensive sport to train in regularly in the UK, to my knowledge. By contrast, a sport like boxing will cost you �??�?�£2-3 a session, less than a tenner a week to train properly.
It’s completely your decision what you decide your priorities are. However, the whole of your original post was about training another MA so that you didn’t get your arse kicked all the time. Now you’re all about the weights. I don’t want to smash any illusions, especially on a site like this where there are a lot of big guys who think that being able to bench press some arbitrary weight automatically makes you a stone cold killer, but in my experience, it goes like this: Big accomplished fighter > smaller accomplished fighter > big > small. You’ll notice how far down the list being just big comes. It’s only really useful when you’re fighting a girly man. Otherwise, it’s just going to give you a false sense of security that someone small and mean is going to disabuse you of very violently.
Just food for thought I guess. [/quote]
My uncle works on a local farm (northerner here)I get 20 eggs off him for 2.20.
The steak is tesco frying steak, 3.00 for 650 grams.
I don’t get my ass kicked all the time but I used to get beat up a lot, mainly because I always stuck up for myself in a rough area. My thing now is I want to be able to stick up for myself and win and not be afraid of getting beat down. I am not scared of the beatings as much as I am of the humiliation of being beaten.
By the way, I think you and a few others misunderstood. The police found my motorbike that had been stolen and recently I found out one of the guys who was involved but I havent got the balls to go and fight him because he is like 200 pounds on steroids and a great fighter and I would just end up getting smashed.
I want to be able to defend myself and be a man who can fend for himself. I am ashamed I have not been round to this guys house and dragged him out but what will getting my ass whooped do for me and I won’t go to the police.
And yeah you are right training>being big, but while I am not at jiu jitsu i might as well get stronger right?[/quote]
Fair enough on the meat and eggs. Sounds like a good deal. Have at it.
Fear of humiliation of losing is something that drives most of us who fight,to an extent, I imagine. I have never been afraid of getting hurt before a fight, but I have puked for days before hand worrying about looking bad, or not doing what I’m capable of. It’s natural to be proud and hold yourself to high standards.
Also, what is sticking up for yourself? You want to push back when you’re pushed? Hit back when you’re hit? That right there is a losing mentality, because everything you do is reactionary. The point some of us were trying to make is that being a winner is about mentality. I don’t lose fights these days, not because I’m a hard nut, but because I pick my battles. Someone gets in my face over nothing? I walk away. Go to the nick for a stranger? Face charges? Undo the hardwork I’ve put in to get ahead in life? No fucking way, not for some nobody, scum-bag low life, who is just looking for a victim. They won’t leave it alone AND ARE A GENUINE THREAT, NOT SOME DRUNK IDIOT FULL OF HOT AIR? ‘I’m gonna slit you bruv’? ‘Me and my boys gonna find you and fuck you up’? They are getting knocked out while they are still talking. No sticking up for myself, no posturing or chatting shit about how bad I am and how they don’t want none of it. Just immediate violence until they aren’t a threat any more, AND WONT BE A THREAT IN THE FUTURE.
As far as what to do about the guy who nicked your bike, that’s really up to you. I would encourage you to do nothing anytime in the near future, cos you can’t do what needs to be done until you’ve developed the mind-set, and you’re a long way from being able to handle yourself by the sounds of things. That said, I have read on the internet, and in no way have any real world experience of this, but even great fighters tend to come off very badly when they come up against a committed group, or against an individual who knows how to effectively equalise physical differences.
Moral issues with teaching criminals how to fight? A lot of guys turn their lives around in boxing gyms, guys who have done bad things, mixed with bad crowds, and done plenty of time for it. So on the surface, nothing against trying to teach the criminally inclined discipline and hardwork. If the guy is a thug anyway, he’s going to be a thug whether he learns how to box or not.
^ The point I’m trying to make is you sound like a decent lad, but you’re focusing on the wrong details in my opinion. If you want to be able to fight, you have to fight, and you have to develop a fighters mindset. Weights will make you bigger and stronger, but if you live in a hard area, they’ll only make you a bigger stronger victim, until you are able to handle yourself.
you need to stop being a pussy and gain some self respect.
real life fighting is largely about mentality.
stop thinking like a victim and be a man.
learn to box and dont concern yourself with anything else.
your friend got bashed up because he wanted to use his killer ufc moves against someone who just punched the fuck out of him. if he had been boxing he wouldnt have been thinking about his ground and pound transition into a rear naked choke he would have just smashed him in the face.
if you know who has stolen your motor bike grow a set and get tooled up and go and get it back. bring some mates. once you’ve got it back do him badly so he knows not to do it again.
read geoff thompson’s book watch my back will help with mentality alot.
dont bother with weights they mean nothing.
literally just join a boxing club and fuck the rest.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
you need to stop being a pussy and gain some self respect.
real life fighting is largely about mentality.
stop thinking like a victim and be a man.
learn to box and dont concern yourself with anything else.
your friend got bashed up because he wanted to use his killer ufc moves against someone who just punched the fuck out of him. if he had been boxing he wouldnt have been thinking about his ground and pound transition into a rear naked choke he would have just smashed him in the face.
if you know who has stolen your motor bike grow a set and get tooled up and go and get it back. bring some mates. once you’ve got it back do him badly so he knows not to do it again.
read geoff thompson’s book watch my back will help with mentality alot.
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So you are saying that I, at 5’6" with tyrannosaurus rex arms, could beat a man who was a foot taller and 50 pounds heavier if only I trained some boxing? Neither Pacman nor Mayweather are beating a college linebacker.
And who cares about a motor bike? It isn’t worth going to jail over. That’s what cops and insurance are for.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
^ The point I’m trying to make is you sound like a decent lad, but you’re focusing on the wrong details in my opinion. If you want to be able to fight, you have to fight, and you have to develop a fighters mindset. Weights will make you bigger and stronger, but if you live in a hard area, they’ll only make you a bigger stronger victim, until you are able to handle yourself.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more. And one of those things he’s focusing on is revenge, which consumes people and leaves them bitter and angry. Why? Because revenge is not always feasible but it ALWAYS has consequences. One thing I learnt watching monsters heave ho at each other in clubs and pubs - if they are lifting weights to get big, and are using that size to muscle others, then their weakness is evident to the rest of us who can handle ourselves.
Skarkie: If the cops got your bike back, then leave it be mate. If the thug who took it isn’t pushing an agenda against you, then leave it be mate.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
you need to stop being a pussy and gain some self respect.
real life fighting is largely about mentality.
stop thinking like a victim and be a man.
learn to box and dont concern yourself with anything else.
your friend got bashed up because he wanted to use his killer ufc moves against someone who just punched the fuck out of him. if he had been boxing he wouldnt have been thinking about his ground and pound transition into a rear naked choke he would have just smashed him in the face.
if you know who has stolen your motor bike grow a set and get tooled up and go and get it back. bring some mates. once you’ve got it back do him badly so he knows not to do it again.
read geoff thompson’s book watch my back will help with mentality alot.
[/quote]
So you are saying that I, at 5’6" with tyrannosaurus rex arms, could beat a man who was a foot taller and 50 pounds heavier if only I trained some boxing? Neither Pacman nor Mayweather are beating a college linebacker.
And who cares about a motor bike? It isn’t worth going to jail over. That’s what cops and insurance are for. [/quote]
I don’t like your Linebacker analogy despite me agreeing with your final point.
What makes a big guy think he can handle everyone he meets? Do you think Pacman or Mayweather waste their time entertaining the thought of playing NFL? No. They stick to their strengths, they excel at boxing, they set their terms. That’s what London was talking about when he mentions “picking battles”. And that’s the key to victory.
For some reason size replaces common sense and hubris. Either in the ‘Linebacker’ or his sycophants. And this size makes seemingly anyone without serious fight training/experience think that size trumps skill like it’s all a game of numbers. Sorry mate, but if you left a poor Linebacker in the ring with Pacman, we’d be carrying the big lug out on the XXXL stretcher.
Sharkie should not be led astray. If he wants to become a good fighter, he needs to train constantly in the discipline of fighting.
Size matters to most people because size just psychologically intimidates people and because it genuinely matters unless there’s another great factor involved.
Zecarlo’s example is flawed in that Mayweather and Pacquiao are two of the greatest boxers alive today. Their sheer experience will give them an edge against an individual like an NFL linebacker, simply because the linebacker has not been trained to fight. And yet, place a random welterweight fighter up against the very same linebacker, and the linebacker may very well win. Why? Simply because the random welterweight fighter may not have the same experience and training that Mayweather and Pacquiao has.
That’s why yolo84’s comments are nonsensical. You place a 5ft7 140-150lb boxer up against a 6ft, 200lb+ individual who is not a tub of lard. The boxer may not even able to reach the guy’s face, and his punches are significantly less effective against someone who weights 50+ more lb than him.
Ultimately though, it does come down to mentality. If someone is out for blood, then it is incredibly difficult to stop them with mere punches. All the stories individuals with actual combat/police-work experience have posted on this forum before come to mind. But if a person is a large man with a weak heart and untrained(combat-wise mind you, all the fucking lifting in the world won’t make you good at taking physical damage) then it may very well be possible to stop them by punching or submitting them or what have you.
sharkOnesie-
Defending yourself is incredibly simple. Just have a big knife on hand. Or a metal bat. Hell, I tend to know where my big potential weapons is at in relation to where I’m sleeping just in case a random burglar decides to come into my house at night.
You can throw chairs at people. You can get a book and smash people’s noses with it. You can use your backpack as a simultaneous shield and weapon if you have some books in it.
You do not need anything beyond the ability to have your muscles do what you want it to do for about 10-20 minutes to defend yourself. This is actually why I’m strongly encouraging you to become stronger. Just enough so that you can have your muscles act in the way you wish it to for some period of time. You do not need BJJ. You do not need boxing. You certainly do not need some mystical energy force that those idiots in the video over at the fraud thread has. All you need is the willingness and desire to truly act on your intentions.
Please note that if you lack this then you can have the skills of any Gracie or GSP or Mayweather or whoever and you’ll still lose to anyone who’s grown up with the willingness to truly act. It’s what separates random people who say “Oh, I want to do X but can’t because of Y or Z” from those who actually do it. It’s also what separates normal people from bat-shit insane murderers.
I don’t want to encourage people to have this mentality. Because it’s fucking scary and dangerous. It can very well veer from being perfectly harmless (Oh, I want to be a chef and no one will stop me!) to being incredibly destructive (Osama Bin Laden).
Just know that skill and knowledge does not give you the power to defend yourself. The act of training may give you time and “strength” to develop this power, but you won’t find it until you realize that you can very well kill someone with a pencil if need be.
I lift weights because I used to be fat and I don’t want to be that fat kid anymore. I did (can’t do it right now because of a recurring thumb tendinitis)judo because friends back in college got me into it and it was really fun to do intense physical work.
But I really don’t harbor any illusions that my judo skills will let me beat someone up. I keep my old kendo wooden sword around next to my bed for that shit =) No, I keep judo purely as a sport that I enjoy doing, and I really never wish to be in any physical encounters. Ever.
To end all this spiel- If you really think that lifting and BJJ will help you defend yourself. It won’t. Again, nothing will help you defend yourself until you develop an extreme awareness of your surroundings and the knowledge and intent to do what you truly wish to do. Keep in mind, a fucking pencil in the eye will stop even the greatest fighter of all time.
Shark,
A couple of suggestions:
Read the entire “2 vs 1 Road Rage” thread at the top of this forum. I believe you will gain a more indept understanding of real violent encounters.
I am not an expert on weight training, so, I cannot offer anything useful, However, I can state that you will have to “get tougher” mentally and develop a combat mindset, or all the weight training in the world will not save you from a determined attacker.
From reading the discussion, You are living in the UK, but, whereever you live, going to someone’s house and “dragging them out to beat their ass” is just stupid. In the US , that would either be called, 'Simple assualt" or “aggravated assault” and will get up up to 20 years in prison. I would suggest you review your local self defense laws and ask Londonboxer for his advise on surviving the British court system, because, if you are dumb enough to seek that kind of remedy to your bike situation, then you better be smart enough to survive the British justice system.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
you need to stop being a pussy and gain some self respect.
real life fighting is largely about mentality.
stop thinking like a victim and be a man.
learn to box and dont concern yourself with anything else.
your friend got bashed up because he wanted to use his killer ufc moves against someone who just punched the fuck out of him. if he had been boxing he wouldnt have been thinking about his ground and pound transition into a rear naked choke he would have just smashed him in the face.
if you know who has stolen your motor bike grow a set and get tooled up and go and get it back. bring some mates. once you’ve got it back do him badly so he knows not to do it again.
read geoff thompson’s book watch my back will help with mentality alot.
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So you are saying that I, at 5’6" with tyrannosaurus rex arms, could beat a man who was a foot taller and 50 pounds heavier if only I trained some boxing? Neither Pacman nor Mayweather are beating a college linebacker.
And who cares about a motor bike? It isn’t worth going to jail over. That’s what cops and insurance are for. [/quote]
both Pacman and Mayweather could beat a college linebacker in a street fight get real
yes you could beat someone 50lbs heavier if you know how to punch hard and accurately