[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
What you guys fail to realize, and yes this is a discussion x and I have had before, is just because Guy A holds the world record, doesn’t mean he is the best at it.
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Surely you can understand the skepticism when someone is claiming they are stronger than a world record holder, no? You don’t think it’s reasonable to ask for video proof if someone claims they are stronger than one of the strongest men in the world (regardless of lift)?
We make fun of underdeveloped people claiming ridiculous lifts on this forum ALL the time! We shouldn’t automatically believe a posters lifts simply because they are well developed if the lifts being claimed are similarly outrageous.
FTR, I probably wouldn’t go video taping my lifts, either. Then again I’ll probably never incline press 495 pounds 15 times so I won’t get that type of skepticism, either. :)[/quote]
Yeah, the difference is, he is like 5’8" or shorter and weighs damn near 300lbs. If he can’t at least do 405 easily, something is very fucking wrong. That is why this makes no sense.
Yes, hounding some 150lbs newb who claims they can squat 600lbs makes sense.
Hounding a 40 year old man who has muscles bigger than most here doesn’t unless you just have something to prove.
You also don’t know his condition when he did it either and I doubt he can go back in time for vids.
Yes, if this were the powerlifting forum, then critique his form, his gear and everything else. [/quote]
Newb claims 300 pound bench press, we all laugh and flame. Developed guy claims 495 inclines for 15 reps, we all accept and move on.
Does that make sense? They seem equally dubious to me.
Like I said, I wouldn’t post videos, either, unless I was already planning to record them. But I don’t think anyone here should be surprised if most people don’t believe those claims.[/quote]
I love the logic. You all use the fact that someone ELSE can’t do something (usually yourselves) as proof that it can’t be done. Good thing Roger Banister didn’t think that way. Or Einstein. Or the first guys on the moon. Or the slaves and abolitionists who believed black people shouldn’t be slaves. Or Tesla. Or Edison. Or…
Get my point? But X is right, THIS is why I STOPPED posting numbers when people asked questions. The whole thread gets derailed by a KID who hasn’t even been alive as long as I have lifted. I DON’T hide my face, my name or where I am from. Yet, I get challenged by nameless, faceless people on here all the time. This is the type of BS that made me lay off of here for a good 4 months or so after I first joined and is why a good number of the posters on here who actually have something to contribute stopped talking. It’s also why I was reluctant to put any numbers up. I am fucking DONE with assholes in a thread, where people are asking ME questions, who don’t even have the fucking balls to talk TO me. You run to X or some one else like he is your fucking father to try and get him to co-sign and do third party faggot shit. And then they tell you to shut the fuck up so you whine and bitch to each other because he isn’t listening to your bullshit, either. I am older than just about all you bastards on here and judging by the stupidity and shitty attitudes of MOST will still be alive and lifting long after you all have bitched up and turned into the women you really are.
If someone wants to ask a question or make a suggestion they think will help, I am all for an exchange of ideas, but if all you want to do is nitpick and bitch, start another thread and you can all feel free to have one big circle jerk and suck each other off in one big happy bitch-filled orgy. [/quote]
Lol, was this directed at me? I directly quoted and wrote to YOU, X decided to jump in and write to me, so I responded…
I’ve never once stated you didn’t incline rep 495 x 15. Not ONCE. All I’ve wrote is that YOU SHOULD EXPECT PEOPLE TO DOUBT A CLAIM LIKE THAT! If the 4 minute mile were never broken and Roger Bannister logged in on a forum as (essentially) an anonymous guy with a runner’s body and claimed he had broken a 4 minute mile, you can damn well believe everyone on that forum would doubt those claims.
Jesus Christ, halfway through that rant I didn’t even know what the hell you were talking about…