Lewhitehurst, What's Your Story?

SSC · March 8, 2011, 5:53am

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Usually this is where a few powerlifters and forumites claim the lift isn’t real because it isn’t full ROM or some bullshit.[/quote]

X - it’s not ‘some bullshit’ i don’t do rack pulls and then claim them as deadlift numbers.

OP did not "incline barbell press 495 for 15 reps. he didn’t.

i’m sorry. i’m not trying to start wars, or w/e the hell drama stuff seems to happen all the time.

if he really was pushing up 495 6-15 times, he would have some kind of video evidence.

that’d be like having a 6 second car and not having video proof of it.[/quote]

It’s funny you should mention that, I actually have a 5-second Prius. Get some.

HolyMacaroni · March 8, 2011, 5:57am

and in preperation of the onslaught of 160lb newbs who are gonna be like ‘omg dude you don’t know, he prolly did it, why would he make that up, what do you know, blah blah blah’

Stan Efferding is a guy who either currently holds the #1 (or is damn close) ranking in the Raw American Men powerlifting.

he weights about 275 (274 in this video when he has a combined total of 2221 lbs 2,221 lb Raw Total by Stan Efferding "Rhino" (275) beats Konstantin Konstantinovs (308) 2,217 - YouTube )

here is a video of him struggling to hit 495x5 on incline.

rundymc · March 8, 2011, 7:51am

It must have been the Lady Gaga in the background. Put on some Slayer and he’d get that weight for 25 reps easy.

lewhitehurst · March 8, 2011, 1:23pm

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Usually this is where a few powerlifters and forumites claim the lift isn’t real because it isn’t full ROM or some bullshit.[/quote]

X - it’s not ‘some bullshit’ i don’t do rack pulls and then claim them as deadlift numbers.

OP did not "incline barbell press 495 for 15 reps. he didn’t.

i’m sorry. i’m not trying to start wars, or w/e the hell drama stuff seems to happen all the time.

if he really was pushing up 495 6-15 times, he would have some kind of video evidence.

that’d be like having a 6 second car and not having video proof of it.[/quote]

Why would I have video evidence if I was doing that before I even joined T-Nation? I’m 41 years old. I don’t have shit to prove to you or anyone else, other than myself and my son. I work out for myself and by myself. Taking videos to prove something to someone on the net I didn’t/don’t know has never really been a concern for me. As for your Stan Effgerding videos, I am NOT Stan Efferding. I am me. WTF does him struggling to do it have anything to do with me?

If I struggled squatting 225, does that mean the guy next to me can’t squat 500? I am not a powerlifting expert by any means, so I may be wrong, but as far as I am aware they do not do inclines in competition but do flat benching. Just because you are strong pressing in one position doesn’t mean you are that strong in another position.

If you were, your overhead press, incline, flat and decline bench would all be the same. They aren’t. Or at least I have never come across anybody who is. I have always been strong on inclines and suck on flat. It may be body mechanics, IDK, or it may be the fact that I just prefer inclines, so that is what I concentrated on.

What you guys fail to realize, and yes this is a discussion x and I have had before, is just because Guy A holds the world record, doesn’t mean he is the best at it. It just means he is the best that competed in that particular event on THAT day, period. Kevin Levrone who is recognized as being a ridiculously strong bodybuilder inclined more than 495 plenty of times. I saw it with my own eyes. My cousin used to work out with him back when he was competing and got me around Kevin when he could.

When I saw how much Kevin was putting up, with ease, I realized if this guy can do it I can too. And I got to that point. As far as I know, Kevin never entered a powerlifting competition, nor held a world record; but I doubt he gives a shit what Stan Efeerding can or can not incline, what records he holds or Heaven Forbid - what you say. I sure don’t.

sam_sneed1 · March 8, 2011, 1:52pm

[quote]rundymc wrote:
It must have been the Lady Gaga in the background. Put on some Slayer and he’d get that weight for 25 reps easy.[/quote]

Hahahahaha

SSC · March 8, 2011, 2:01pm

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Usually this is where a few powerlifters and forumites claim the lift isn’t real because it isn’t full ROM or some bullshit.[/quote]

X - it’s not ‘some bullshit’ i don’t do rack pulls and then claim them as deadlift numbers.

OP did not "incline barbell press 495 for 15 reps. he didn’t.

i’m sorry. i’m not trying to start wars, or w/e the hell drama stuff seems to happen all the time.

if he really was pushing up 495 6-15 times, he would have some kind of video evidence.

that’d be like having a 6 second car and not having video proof of it.[/quote]

Why would I have video evidence if I was doing that before I even joined T-Nation? I’m 41 years old. I don’t have shit to prove to you or anyone else, other than myself and my son. I work out for myself and by myself. Taking videos to prove something to someone on the net I didn’t/don’t know has never really been a concern for me. As for your Stan Effgerding videos, I am NOT Stan Efferding. I am me. WTF does him struggling to do it have anything to do with me? If I struggled squatting 225, does that mean the guy next to me can’t squat 500? I am not a powerlifting expert by any means, so I may be wrong, but as far as I am aware they do not do inclines in competition but do flat benching. Just because you are strong pressing in one position doesn’t mean you are that strong in another position. If you were, your overhead press, incline, flat and decline bench would all be the same. They aren’t. Or at least I have never come across anybody who is. I have always been strong on inclines and suck on flat. It may be body mechanics, IDK, or it may be the fact that I just prefer inclines, so that is what I concentrated on.

What you guys fail to realize, and yes this is a discussion x and I have had before, is just because Guy A holds the world record, doesn’t mean he is the best at it. It just means he is the best that competed in that particular event on THAT day, period. Kevin Levrone who is recognized as being a ridiculously strong bodybuilder inclined more than 495 plenty of times. I saw it with my own eyes. My cousin used to work out with him back when he was competing and got me around Kevin when he could. When I saw how much Kevin was putting up, with ease, I realized if this guy can do it I can too. And I got to that point. As far as I know, Kevin never entered a powerlifting competition, nor held a world record; but I doubt he gives a shit what Stan Efeerding can or can not incline, what records he holds or Heaven Forbid - what you say. I sure don’t.
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Well-articulated Lew… this is why you are a good poster.

I’ve noticed people on this forum particularly are obsessed with ‘The Big 3’ numbers… they’ll gauge your entire lifting history on three ridiculous numbers. Like that’s going to make or break or iron history.

That’s why I actually really enjoyed Kingbeef’s reluctance to disclose numbers.

Anyway, carry on. Great read so far.

lewhitehurst · March 8, 2011, 2:37pm

[quote]hlss09 wrote:
Lew, just for the hell of it, would you post what you ate today (or some day). I know you don’t have anything set in stone, and day to day your diet changes dramatically, but I’m interested in what a day could look like for someone of your size. I’m maintaining weight while adding strength at ~3,500 kcal per day, probably going to add cals, so I was curious what it takes to maintain/add weight at your size of ~280 pounds. [/quote]

The past two days I have eaten like crap. LOL

Sunday I had two meals - pancakes, a bacon and mushroom omelet and home fries for breakfast and pot roast for dinner. And two huge slices of cake for dessert - apple spice and yellow cake with caramel icing.

Monday I ate a couple yogurts for breakfast, had mac and cheese (with bacon and green onions in it. YUM) and some ham for lunch. For dinner I had a footlong shrimp salad sub, mozzarella sticks and fries.

Like I said, I ate horribly the past couple days.

I generally try to plan ahead, but also keep it loose enough that I can change things up, since I may be starving all day one day and the next I might only get hungry around dinner time. I have some eggs already scrambled in the fridge at work along with some oatmeal and some type of meat so I can make breakfast if/when I am hungry as well as a couple protein shakes on hand.

Sometimes they may sit there a day or two and then one day I might drink them all down. I almost always bring in lunch, which is usually leftovers from the little lady. She can cook her ass off and makes everything from scratch. With her it might be steak, some type of curry, etc.

solidkhalid · March 8, 2011, 3:06pm

I hate when someone brings up somebody else to make an example/prove a point… unless it goes both ways.

Professor_X · March 8, 2011, 3:49pm

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Usually this is where a few powerlifters and forumites claim the lift isn’t real because it isn’t full ROM or some bullshit.[/quote]

X - it’s not ‘some bullshit’ i don’t do rack pulls and then claim them as deadlift numbers.

OP did not "incline barbell press 495 for 15 reps. he didn’t.

i’m sorry. i’m not trying to start wars, or w/e the hell drama stuff seems to happen all the time.

if he really was pushing up 495 6-15 times, he would have some kind of video evidence.

that’d be like having a 6 second car and not having video proof of it.[/quote]

…not what I was referring to. This is a grown man. I don’t even take video of my lifts for no reason and the ONLY reason there is even one video in my profile is because someone years back claimed I couldn’t do it.

Mind you, I can’t lift that same weight at the moment because of the car wreck I was in…meaning if some jackass popped up now claiming that I needed to show video proof that I ever did it, they would be shit out of luck (even though I was doing more than that before I was injured).

The way some of you think is a result of your environment seeing as how EVERYTHING someone does is now either on youtube or on facebook short of when they use the fucking restroom. I mean, that is assuming that you honestly believe that the only people on the planet who are that strong have ALL been videoed or that they all care whether you know they can do it.

This is why I try to avoid even mentioning how much I lift. I benched 405 on a barbell press less than 3 years after I got serious about lifting…but YEARS LATER, when I claim I am doing 450 on an HS machine, the entire forum erupts to tell me that it isn’t like free weight…as if they feel some need to tell me I’m not that strong and would somehow be weaker than I was when I weighed 80lbs less.

My advice for anyone else who is lifting any sort of weight that would cause this is to avoid even mentioning how much you lift. That is what Kingbeef is doing. he won’t say shit about how much he lifts…because of this same fucking response.

It’s tired. No one really cares. This dude is in his 40’s but you think he has something to prove to you.

This isn’t powerlifting. This is bodybuilding.

Professor_X · March 8, 2011, 3:52pm

[quote]SSC wrote:

Well-articulated Lew… this is why you are a good poster.

I’ve noticed people on this forum particularly are obsessed with ‘The Big 3’ numbers… they’ll gauge your entire lifting history on three ridiculous numbers. Like that’s going to make or break or iron history.

That’s why I actually really enjoyed Kingbeef’s reluctance to disclose numbers.

Anyway, carry on. Great read so far.[/quote]

Exactly. You can have some guy with 22" arms and these bastards will act like he’s weak based on whether he deadlifts or not.

LankyMofo · March 8, 2011, 5:12pm

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

What you guys fail to realize, and yes this is a discussion x and I have had before, is just because Guy A holds the world record, doesn’t mean he is the best at it.
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Surely you can understand the skepticism when someone is claiming they are stronger than a world record holder, no? You don’t think it’s reasonable to ask for video proof if someone claims they are stronger than one of the strongest men in the world (regardless of lift)?

We make fun of underdeveloped people claiming ridiculous lifts on this forum ALL the time! We shouldn’t automatically believe a posters lifts simply because they are well developed if the lifts being claimed are similarly outrageous.

FTR, I probably wouldn’t go video taping my lifts, either. Then again I’ll probably never incline press 495 pounds 15 times so I won’t get that type of skepticism, either.

Mateus · March 8, 2011, 5:27pm

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]behexen wrote:
Very impressive and informative. You my friend are a beast. While you were getting bigger, did you do alot of bulking and cutting phases? Or just bulk up real big and worry about cutting later?[/quote]

I have only done one serious cut in my life, just to see if I could do it, but other than that I do alternate bulking and cutting, but when I cut I am not looking at being 6 pack lean, just lean enough that when I flex my abs you can see them and my stomach is flat.

Basically, the overriding goal was always to be bigger and stronger.[/quote]

Your not doing it right! You have to bulk to 11% then cut back to 10% and repeat until you are HYOOGE. Ask Bunny, he’ll tell ya.

Professor_X · March 8, 2011, 5:29pm

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

What you guys fail to realize, and yes this is a discussion x and I have had before, is just because Guy A holds the world record, doesn’t mean he is the best at it.
[/quote]

Surely you can understand the skepticism when someone is claiming they are stronger than a world record holder, no? You don’t think it’s reasonable to ask for video proof if someone claims they are stronger than one of the strongest men in the world (regardless of lift)?

We make fun of underdeveloped people claiming ridiculous lifts on this forum ALL the time! We shouldn’t automatically believe a posters lifts simply because they are well developed if the lifts being claimed are similarly outrageous.

FTR, I probably wouldn’t go video taping my lifts, either. Then again I’ll probably never incline press 495 pounds 15 times so I won’t get that type of skepticism, either. :)[/quote]

Yeah, the difference is, he is like 5’8" or shorter and weighs damn near 300lbs. If he can’t at least do 405 easily, something is very fucking wrong. That is why this makes no sense.

Yes, hounding some 150lbs newb who claims they can squat 600lbs makes sense.

Hounding a 40 year old man who has muscles bigger than most here doesn’t unless you just have something to prove.

You also don’t know his condition when he did it either and I doubt he can go back in time for vids.

Yes, if this were the powerlifting forum, then critique his form, his gear and everything else.

LankyMofo · March 8, 2011, 5:51pm

[quote]Professor X wrote: