[quote]kingkrs wrote:
dude come on. it was an example, don’t turn this into 180 lb guys squatting big weights.
I like your “what if” If ifs and buts were candy and nuts it would be Christmas all year long. [/quote]
And I’m giving you an example, one that relates more to the pullup video.
[quote]kingkrs wrote:
Just like a little guy weighing 180lbs full Olympic squatting 600lbs is impressive, so is a big guy like Kroc doing 30 full range pullups. The little guy doing a half squat, shit anyone can do that. See my point?
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Wow, stupidest post of the thread. And on this thread, that’s saying A LOT. It was just an example? That’s your defense? “shit, anyone can do that?” ?!? How many guys do you know who squat 600 raw, oly or parallel. DO you yourself have a 600 lb squat? oly or parallel? equipped or unequipped? Most importantly do you have video evidence?
this just underlines the level of ignorance
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
malonetd wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
I like how everyone is on his nuts because he posted a vid doing half pullups. Just because the guy is big.
If anyone else were to post their thirty pullups and it was just as awful there would be flaming out the ass goin on in here.
Too funny.
Well maybe that’s the problem with people that think like you. Why would I care to listen to a guy who can do 30 text-book, full range, chin-over-the-bar, slow tempo, controlled, picture-perfect chins if he’s still skinny and weak? I’ll take Kroc and his nose-ups any day.
Because they wouldn’t be skinny and weak. The might be lean and smaller than your ideal but they certainly would not be weak.
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In my example, I stated specifically that I wouldn’t listen to a guy who is skinny and weak. I understand what you’re saying though. I would definitely listen to someone I thought was impressive, even if he didn’t fit my ideals or goals.
That being said, I don’t necessarily think doing 30 chins is strong.
[quote]kingkrs wrote:
Sounds like you are arguing on your behalf, not his. I bet your pullups are even more pathetic.[/quote]
Is this a challenge. I’m game – and I’m not even that good at chins. So what is it? Most reps? Most weight? Most reps at a certain weight? We can do this on your terms.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
Sounds like you are arguing on your behalf, not his. I bet your pullups are even more pathetic.
Is this a challenge. I’m game – and I’m not even that good at chins. So what is it? Most reps? Most weight? Most reps at a certain weight? We can do this on your terms.[/quote]
Haha! No it wasn’t a challenge however I do think it would be good for the board to go in on something like this. Challenges and contests are good for extra motivation and progress.
Besides, looking at how this thread went I can only imagine how another pullup challenge thread would end up. lol
I’ll save you the trouble though. I can do 20 chin over the bar dead hang pullups. I have not tried to get any more than that. I can do 10 chin over the bar with 45lb plate hanging from the waist. No vids no proof just take it or leave it.
I weigh 210
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
Just like a little guy weighing 180lbs full Olympic squatting 600lbs is impressive, so is a big guy like Kroc doing 30 full range pullups. The little guy doing a half squat, shit anyone can do that. See my point?
Wow, stupidest post of the thread. And on this thread, that’s saying A LOT.[/quote] Dude don’t be a dick.[quote]It was just an example? That’s your defense? “shit, anyone can do that?”?!? [/quote]yeah anyone can do half reps [quote]How many guys do you know who squat 600 raw, oly or parallel.[/quote] I know zero at that weight[quote] DO you yourself have a 600 lb squat? oly or parallel? [/quote]no[quote] equipped or unequipped? Most importantly do you have video evidence? [/quote]no
[quote]this just underlines the level of ignorance[/quote] no this underlines the fact that you failed at reading comprehension. Time to put down the weights and pick up a book
Lol. This thread is turning into a testosterone slugfest. Keep your raging hormones at bay, guys. Stop all this ad hominem coz it will get the thread nowhere and make T-Nation look like a test junkies.
[quote]kingkrs wrote:
yeah anyone can do half reps [/quote]
You do know that half squat means a 90 degree bend at the knee right?
[quote]vision1 wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
yeah anyone can do half reps
You do know that half squat means a 90 degree bend at the knee right?
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90 degrees isn’t quads parallel, which bends the knee more than 90 degrees. Half squats aren’t 90 degrees either because the knee can’t bend 180 degrees.
[quote]kingkrs wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
Just like a little guy weighing 180lbs full Olympic squatting 600lbs is impressive, so is a big guy like Kroc doing 30 full range pullups. The little guy doing a half squat, shit anyone can do that. See my point?
Wow, stupidest post of the thread. And on this thread, that’s saying A LOT. Dude don’t be a dick.It was just an example? That’s your defense? “shit, anyone can do that?”?!? yeah anyone can do half reps How many guys do you know who squat 600 raw, oly or parallel. I know zero at that weight DO you yourself have a 600 lb squat? oly or parallel? no equipped or unequipped? Most importantly do you have video evidence? no
this just underlines the level of ignorance no this underlines the fact that you failed at reading comprehension. Time to put down the weights and pick up a book
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I love it when people cover up their inability to write by accusing others of an inability to read. You said a full-range oly squat with 600@180 lbs bw is impressive, which in and of itself is dumb. A 600 lb oly squat at any weight is VERY impressive (I believe even Reza only does doubles or triples with 600) and at 180 it would be world-class.
Then you say that if half-reps wouldnt be as impressive. Are you seriously saying you meant half-reps with another weight? because theres nothing implying that in your original post. So either you cant write clearly, or you just admitted that, in fact, NOT just “anyone” can do parallel squats with 600@180, since you dont seem to know anyone.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
vision1 wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
yeah anyone can do half reps
You do know that half squat means a 90 degree bend at the knee right?
90 degrees isn’t quads parallel, which bends the knee more than 90 degrees. Half squats aren’t 90 degrees either because the knee can’t bend 180 degrees.[/quote]
It’s a video.
Of a Guy.
Doing pullups (lots).
With a wide grip. Maybe not absolutely perfect, but if you were maxing out or competing with friends would you be?
Why does it warrant all the argument? Please get this topic off my browser, and do something other than argue senselessly (like train, or eat, or socialise…).
[quote]el0gic wrote:
Why does it warrant all the argument? Please get this topic off my browser, and do something other than argue senselessly (like train, or eat, or socialise…).
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Oh, you’d like the topic off your browser? I can help with that: move your cursor to the upper right hand corner of the window and click the “X” there. Then dont bother posting on threads that dont interest you. problem solved.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
Lol. This thread is turning into a testosterone slugfest. Keep your raging hormones at bay, guys. Stop all this ad hominem coz it will get the thread nowhere and make T-Nation look like a test junkies.[/quote]
Come on, you know you can’t use words like ad hominem here, first grade vocabulary only.
[quote]vision1 wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
vision1 wrote:
kingkrs wrote:
yeah anyone can do half reps
You do know that half squat means a 90 degree bend at the knee right?
90 degrees isn’t quads parallel, which bends the knee more than 90 degrees. Half squats aren’t 90 degrees either because the knee can’t bend 180 degrees.
asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=57559&tid=4[/quote]
Hmm, we seem to agree that half squats are different from parallel squats, but I guess we define half squats differently. Oh well…
[quote]JRT6 wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Lol. This thread is turning into a testosterone slugfest. Keep your raging hormones at bay, guys. Stop all this ad hominem coz it will get the thread nowhere and make T-Nation look like a test junkies.
Come on, you know you can’t use words like ad hominem here, first grade vocabulary only.
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Lol. Let me rephrase that.
Stop acting like first graders coz it will get the thread nowhere and make T-Nation look like a bunch of, well, first graders.
^^^
You probably have the best name on T-Nation
So the guy does pullups with bad form. He’s not in any kind of competition, its not seen as any kind of official number by anyone, and if it helps him reach his goals, more power to him.
On the other hand, I dont get why all these people defending him think that him being strong otherwise means nobody should call bullshit on his “pullups”.
I think apwsearch needs to see this thread and give all you guys a wakeup call on all this b.s. arguing
[quote]Pipes06 wrote:
I think apwsearch needs to see this thread and give all you guys a wakeup call on all this b.s. arguing[/quote]
So he’d argue on a forum that people shouldn’t argue on forums. Sweet.