Is it Ever Okay to Hit a Female?

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]SLAINGE wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]SLAINGE wrote:
Watch this double standard in action

Seeing the stronger person being bullied amuses people for some reason.[/quote]

For sure, but why?

Is it a social construct or something deeper, like some primal instinct to find this sort of thing funny / ridiculous / unbelievable in fact? The (physically) stronger person getting shat on by a weaker person, kinda goes against how things ought to be in the wild. Women and men alike having a great laugh at this man’s expense.

Mind you I would probably be laughing as well, brainwashed to think that he must have done something wrong, like cheated to deserve that. Yet he was being physically abused by some psychotic cunt but we’re blinded by the assumption that women are always the victim. I hate double standards.
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I can’t give a concrete answer as I don’t know. In social hierarchies among wild animals, dominance is determined either through social behavior in some groups and physical stature and strength in others. Humans are unique in that their roles are dynamic. From here, culture is critical. Some communities being more towards the physical and others being more towards the social; however, the physical elements themselves can reinforce the social elements given the right feedback.

Since we now have infrastructure that reduces the need for the physical elements, there seems to be a lot less balance between the physical and social elements. People are taught to subvert physical dominance, which also subverts social elements indirectly. So when someone overcomes another individual with implied physical dominance through social dominance, that triggers a certain reward. Women abuses man: “All is in order. My beliefs are correct.” Man abuses woman: “This defies the order of the things. My beliefs are being challenged.” I don’t know. Just talking out of my ass.

A lot of it falls within sociobiological parameters. It’s just been groomed to become more of a binary manner than a spectral one. The media has influence. Parents have influence. Given how recent the phenomenon is, it is clear that it has been manufactured. The question is just how much.[/quote]

Nice response! One thing that has struck me is how prevalent these double standard situations are and how they are ingrained in the psyche of so many people. You would imagine that different countries / cultures would have differing opinions on shit like this but with the internet, TV, media etc. we are becoming more and more alike in our thought processes and accepting of things, that when you sit down and think about it, are downright wrong.

That Bill Burr bit was brilliant. You could sense the unease in the room when he challenged a strong held belief about a certain situation and then blew it out of the water with logic. Then again logic isn’t a strong point of most people today esp. those who are spoon fed their opinions. Youtube comments are a prime example of this, the sheeple that are herding enmass on topics with the most ridiculous statements ever, the movie Idiocracy comes to mind…now I am talking outa me hole, better stop and do some work…

[quote]SLAINGE wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]SLAINGE wrote:
Watch this double standard in action

#ViolenceIsViolence: Domestic abuse advert Mankind - YouTube [/quote]
Seeing the stronger person being bullied amuses people for some reason.[/quote]

For sure, but why?

Is it a social construct or something deeper, like some primal instinct to find this sort of thing funny / ridiculous / unbelievable in fact? The (physically) stronger person getting shat on by a weaker person, kinda goes against how things ought to be in the wild. Women and men alike having a great laugh at this man’s expense.

Mind you I would probably be laughing as well, brainwashed to think that he must have done something wrong, like cheated to deserve that. Yet he was being physically abused by some psychotic cunt but we’re blinded by the assumption that women are always the victim. I hate double standards.
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I think a 3rd ‘act’ or a continuation of the 2nd where the man fights back would be interesting to see as well. Since her attack isn’t extreme I wouldn’t have him hit her, but grabbing her wrists aggressively, or pushing her back and raising his voice telling her to stop, etc. The obvious hypothesis is that the crowd reaction would quickly revert to take 1, but who knows, maybe they’d just stop laughing at first and let it go a bit longer because they witnessed her starting it this time?

I thought the bit where Bill Burr described arguing tactics was spot on too, and not just for the crazy ones; if she can’t win by sticking to the topic, she’ll find a way to win by veering as far off topic until she has something to hold against you forever.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
There have been allegations that she was spitting in his face.

Could you react non-violently to that?[/quote]

I’ve heard this. I heard cursing and spitting.

Don’t ever ever ever think at times women don’t intentionally do things to maliciously provoke a man to hit her.[/quote]

I have twice and both were males. Learn some self control. Omg she instigated. Be the bigger person. Knocking someone out and actively attacking them when your life and or health of you or someone you care about isn’t threatened just shows you need to work on yourself first. Think about long term consequences and realize there are smarter ways to deal with instigating and in this case someone you can easily bear hug so they’d be unable to inflict further harm to you

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
There have been allegations that she was spitting in his face.

Could you react non-violently to that?[/quote]

I’ve heard this. I heard cursing and spitting.

Don’t ever ever ever think at times women don’t intentionally do things to maliciously provoke a man to hit her.[/quote]

I have twice and both were males. Learn some self control. Omg she instigated. Be the bigger person. Knocking someone out and actively attacking them when your life and or health of you or someone you care about isn’t threatened just shows you need to work on yourself first. Think about long term consequences and realize there are smarter ways to deal with instigating and in this case someone you can easily bear hug so they’d be unable to inflict further harm to you
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Nice thoughts in theory Clark Kent, you’ll meet your match one day and she’ll fuck your world up, good luck keeping your ‘cool’.

Not saying its ever right, because it isn’t, but every situation isn’t like the one involving the Red Sox broadcaster’s son who murdered that girl where that dude was just a psycho and deserves to be in jail.

[quote]SuperVillian wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
There have been allegations that she was spitting in his face.

Could you react non-violently to that?[/quote]

I’ve heard this. I heard cursing and spitting.

Don’t ever ever ever think at times women don’t intentionally do things to maliciously provoke a man to hit her.[/quote]

I have twice and both were males. Learn some self control. Omg she instigated. Be the bigger person. Knocking someone out and actively attacking them when your life and or health of you or someone you care about isn’t threatened just shows you need to work on yourself first. Think about long term consequences and realize there are smarter ways to deal with instigating and in this case someone you can easily bear hug so they’d be unable to inflict further harm to you
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Nice thoughts in theory Clark Kent, you’ll meet your match one day and she’ll fuck your world up, good luck keeping your ‘cool’.

Not saying its ever right, because it isn’t, but every situation isn’t like the one involving the Red Sox broadcaster’s son who murdered that girl where that dude was just a psycho and deserves to be in jail. [/quote]

Lol always don’t my best to weed them out before even dating them once. And I am more than happy with my current and hoping shes the last don’t plan on looking more

Just saying if your throwing punches except the fact you’ve passed over other things and lost control and you want to beat the fuck out of someone :slight_smile: I have more hate running through my veins for people in general and there are so many I’d love to beat even unprovoked. Just them existing is enough. And in the worst sense when fully provoked. Ie have been spit on I still think about the consequences possible and the risk isn’t worth the reward to me. Now endanger my life of someone I care about and I love to tear someone apart.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

…Now endanger my life of someone I care about and I love to tear someone apart. [/quote]

This right here says you’d have no problem hitting a female. Just depends on the circumstances.

You’re no different than just about anyone else.[/quote]

I would sure as I had said unless there is danger to my life or someone else’s no i wouldn’t. In the situation with Ray no. I wouldn’t of. But you are correct in I would the major difference is self control and there being only reason for that reaction. Not well I’m pissed or she teased me, she punched me, she scratched me. Ect

[quote]LoRez wrote:
I thought the bit where Bill Burr described arguing tactics was spot on too, and not just for the crazy ones; if she can’t win by sticking to the topic, she’ll find a way to win by veering as far off topic until she has something to hold against you forever.[/quote]

I have generally found that, if you are trying to “win” a conversation with someone, regardless of gender, there is no positive outcome.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SuperVillian wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
There have been allegations that she was spitting in his face.

Could you react non-violently to that?[/quote]

I’ve heard this. I heard cursing and spitting.

Don’t ever ever ever think at times women don’t intentionally do things to maliciously provoke a man to hit her.[/quote]

I have twice and both were males. Learn some self control. Omg she instigated. Be the bigger person. Knocking someone out and actively attacking them when your life and or health of you or someone you care about isn’t threatened just shows you need to work on yourself first. Think about long term consequences and realize there are smarter ways to deal with instigating and in this case someone you can easily bear hug so they’d be unable to inflict further harm to you
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Nice thoughts in theory Clark Kent, you’ll meet your match one day and she’ll fuck your world up, good luck keeping your ‘cool’.

Not saying its ever right, because it isn’t, but every situation isn’t like the one involving the Red Sox broadcaster’s son who murdered that girl where that dude was just a psycho and deserves to be in jail. [/quote]

Lol always don’t my best to weed them out before even dating them once. And I am more than happy with my current and hoping shes the last don’t plan on looking more

Just saying if your throwing punches except the fact you’ve passed over other things and lost control and you want to beat the fuck out of someone :slight_smile: I have more hate running through my veins for people in general and there are so many I’d love to beat even unprovoked. Just them existing is enough. And in the worst sense when fully provoked. Ie have been spit on I still think about the consequences possible and the risk isn’t worth the reward to me. Now endanger my life of someone I care about and I love to tear someone apart. [/quote]

Beyond being in the moment and demonstrating self-control and foresight, the best advice I can give any man in regards to relationships with women and avoiding confrontations…

DON’T UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FUCKING EVER EVER EVER EVER FUCKING CHEAT ON A WOMAN!!!

Break up with them, pretend you’re dead, move to Europe, but do not cheat.

And I’m not preaching this from some kind of pedestal of moral superiority because I’ve done it and when she finds out or you tell them, your life is absolutely fucked. F, U, C, K, FUCKED.

[quote]cueball wrote:
Told a girl I pre-exhaust tris before chest work, she said “ur doing it wrong”, hit her with my DDS.[/quote]

Tell her you bench 500, says wow and asks you to show her… hit her with biology textbook

Asks how to get ripped… hit her with Bball and jug of kool aid

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
There have been allegations that she was spitting in his face.

Could you react non-violently to that?[/quote]

I’ve heard this. I heard cursing and spitting.

Don’t ever ever ever think at times women don’t intentionally do things to maliciously provoke a man to hit her.[/quote]

I have twice and both were males. Learn some self control. Omg she instigated. Be the bigger person. Knocking someone out and actively attacking them when your life and or health of you or someone you care about isn’t threatened just shows you need to work on yourself first. Think about long term consequences and realize there are smarter ways to deal with instigating and in this case someone you can easily bear hug so they’d be unable to inflict further harm to you
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I would imagine if you grabbed a girl and bear-hugged her in public, you would still have the crowd on you in no time.

I’m not up on the particulars of assault charges, but I would imagine some sort of “unlawful restraint” or “holding someone against their will” could be invoked. Especially if there were witnesses.

She said, " I don’t know what you are worried about, those jeans fit your legs perfectly."… Hit her for insulting the gainzz

Asked her to guess my BF %, she asked my height and weight, …hit her with the shoe I was holding.

Asked if we really had to stand by the dollar book bin all day, and why I didn’t just buy it already… Hit her with Nate Green… Bastard got a lot easier to swing when he quit working out…

[quote]OldOgre wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Only to prevent your imminent death.[/quote]

This. And only this.[/quote]

Men are statistically more likely to suffer serious injuries in domestic abuse and women are more likely to use blunt objects or other weapons.
So basically there should be MANY MANY cases where it’s 100% okay to hit women,right?

A better jumping off point than the Ray Rice thing.

Supposedly this all started when the several girls and the guys mom got into it. He had tried getting through the crowd to get to his Mom and these two met him. Again, that was one side of the story. The other one was, I am a woman and he hit me. That was as deep as it went.


Life’s that tough huh?