Steel Nation, well said !
As Strength Sensei Poliquin once said " If you lift 5# more than last time, you are still stronger, correct?"
“You can only lift what your head believes it can. Then again, being completely delusional does not help either.” killerDIRK
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]shadowbobo8028 wrote:
well guys if it helps shed light on the situation, I’m only 19 with 3 years of training under my belt and already I can pull 525lbs. I’m pretty confident that with enough hard work, time, and knowledge I can pull 700
I don’t feel like I’m even close to my genetic potential yet. I see myself peaking somewhere around my late 20’s/early 30’s[/quote]
With you here. I’ve been training since 14 and seriously since maybe 16, and am only 19 now. I’ve pulled 545, squatted 475 in wraps, and benched 135x0.5 (not srs but my bench blows). This is weighing various weights from 198-220.
When people on here are like average males a big achievement is 500 pulls I laugh a little on the inside because when I pulled 500 the first time I knew jack shit about nutrition and my recovery was crap.
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Funny. I laugh a little on the inside everytime I see someone break a 500 pull at a young age and they think that means 700+ is an absolute certainty in their lifetime. I guess we’re all laughing, eh?
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I don’t think that setting ridiculously outlandish goals like this is a productive or worthwhile exercise. You just pulled 525, and you’re thinking about [i]800[/i] now? How does that number even enter your mind at this stage of your development?[/quote]
I’ve wanted an 800lb pull since the first time I said Matt Kroczaleski manage it. I was probably pulling like 405 at that point.
Different strokes.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
not like FILT scum jesse norris[/quote]
what does FILT mean?
why is jesse norris scum?
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
When people on here are like average males a big achievement is 500 pulls I laugh a little on the inside because when I pulled 500 the first time I knew jack shit about nutrition and my recovery was crap.
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So you’re laughing because something came easy for you, when others find it a struggle? Doesn’t that just make you a dick? I think it makes you a dick. Yeah.
[quote]goochadamg wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
When people on here are like average males a big achievement is 500 pulls I laugh a little on the inside because when I pulled 500 the first time I knew jack shit about nutrition and my recovery was crap.
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So you’re laughing because something came easy for you, when others find it a struggle? Doesn’t that just make you a dick? I think it makes you a dick. Yeah.[/quote]
you should see what he has said to me on johnflowers thread. He certainly.does have opinions.
I’ll tell you when I get there 8|
I had front row seats to this beauty:
He weighed in at 204. IPF Worlds, which is drug tested.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]shadowbobo8028 wrote:
well guys if it helps shed light on the situation, I’m only 19 with 3 years of training under my belt and already I can pull 525lbs. I’m pretty confident that with enough hard work, time, and knowledge I can pull 700
I don’t feel like I’m even close to my genetic potential yet. I see myself peaking somewhere around my late 20’s/early 30’s[/quote]
With you here. I’ve been training since 14 and seriously since maybe 16, and am only 19 now. I’ve pulled 545, squatted 475 in wraps, and benched 135x0.5 (not srs but my bench blows). This is weighing various weights from 198-220.
When people on here are like average males a big achievement is 500 pulls I laugh a little on the inside because when I pulled 500 the first time I knew jack shit about nutrition and my recovery was crap.
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Funny. I laugh a little on the inside everytime I see someone break a 500 pull at a young age and they think that means 700+ is an absolute certainty in their lifetime. I guess we’re all laughing, eh?
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I don’t think it’s that ridiculous of a viewpoint.
Is it possible? Yes.
Is it possible for you? No.
Sorry, but there is no reason to be ridiculously unrealistic. If you were like 200lbs in the 6th grade and had already pulled 600 by the time you left high school, then maybe. For someone your size, no. It’s never gonna happen natty.
Yay I pulled that at 17 (a few days after my birthday, and 615 like 2 weeks after)!
And got injured for 2 years on and off. Whatever I built back up and I’m edging closer to 700. Did 639x2 today.
FILT= fitness industry lying trash aka fakenatty
[quote]dagill2 wrote:
Th3Pwnisher is a beast, no question about that, but do you think his beastly-ness is more due to genetics or the decade plus of hard, smart and dedicated training he has under his belt? I’d be inclined towards the latter personally.
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Both?
hmmmm, shit Im still have my sight set on 600, I really think your underestimating how gains go up much slower the more the weight goes up, 405 - 500 was a lot easier then the quest for 600 for me.
When someone says 800lbs deadlift. I directly think about that vid where Ronnie Coleman deadlifts 800lbs, LIGHT WEIGHT BABY!
I doubt if something like that is possible naturally, but the sky isn’t the limit, right? 
Good luck in your pursue, go for it!
Like others have said: It may be, for someone. Variance is huge. I have trained regularly little over 2 years now and my best pull is little over 400. Some guys can do this after couple of months. I don’t really train PL, thought.
I recommend not to worry about it. Take smaller goals (for one year or so), achieving them will keep you motivated. You can dream about 800, but focus on doing 600 first.
Just don’t compare yourself to any “forum standards”, where people have 400lbs bench and +600lbs pull/squat with 6 months of training and under 10% BF. They normally have dicks over 11 inches also.
PS. You’re one strong motherfucker. In your age my exercising(“training”) happened only with girls and beer run.
[quote]goochadamg wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
When people on here are like average males a big achievement is 500 pulls I laugh a little on the inside because when I pulled 500 the first time I knew jack shit about nutrition and my recovery was crap.
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So you’re laughing because something came easy for you, when others find it a struggle? Doesn’t that just make you a dick? I think it makes you a dick. Yeah.[/quote]
Depends in what way that he’s saying it really, if he’s laughing at the guys who get a 500 pull and are pleased with themselves then yeah dickish, but if he’s chuckling at the thought that people in general say that 500 is a big lifetime achievement for someone who has worked their arse off then I kind of get where he’s coming from, because I do think that a lot of people seem to think that being ‘strong’ is a lot lower than my view on what being strong is. Sure congrats on getting 500, now aim for higher.
Look at it this way, hopefully I’m going to pull 600 just before my 23rd birthday in a few weeks (touch wood), and even then I’m of the opinion that I’m getting towards being kind of strong, let alone actually being full on ‘strong’. But I guess people just set different standards for themselves. But I’ve found so far that pretty much whatever I aim for as long as its ‘reasonable’ I’ll get too, so maybe people just aim to low? Or maybe I just find deadlifts ‘easy’ cos I have a stupid lanky 2 meter arm span
The perspective on this site cracks me up sometimes.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
If it’s unrealistic, will you refuse to pursue it?[/quote]
ha, these types of replies on this site have consistently come up for so many years. I just don’t see how they’re even remotely helpful.
The guy was just asking whether he was setting a realistic goal…presumably a replier would have more knowledge/background about what people have pulled and can say “yeah, it’s been done” or “no, might want to scale it back.” OR, even more helpful (!), “yes, it can be done but here’s what it usually entails: [_____].” In this instance, what it entails would involve the typical body weight and leverages that people pulling 800 have worked to achieve/ enjoyed as a matter of genetic profile.
[quote]MinusTheColon wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
If it’s unrealistic, will you refuse to pursue it?[/quote]
ha, these types of replies on this site have consistently come up for so many years. I just don’t see how they’re even remotely helpful.
The guy was just asking whether he was setting a realistic goal…presumably a replier would have more knowledge/background about what people have pulled and can say “yeah, it’s been done” or “no, might want to scale it back.” OR, even more helpful (!), “yes, it can be done but here’s what it usually entails: [_____].” In this instance, what it entails would involve the typical body weight and leverages that people pulling 800 have worked to achieve/ enjoyed as a matter of genetic profile.[/quote]
I apologize, it seems I did not convey my point correctly. I was asking the TC a question, not providing him an answer to his question. The answer to my question would in turn allow me to vector my response.
The intent of that response was NOT to be helpful to the TC, but to be helpful to ME to be able to provide him an answer. I can understand how it could be misinterpreted though. In the future, I will attempt to be more clear.
EDIT: However, if you have any of that data that you were speaking about, I think that would be very interesting.