[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Idiot…these April people have some issues.[/quote]
i speak truth…with the help of aas he can swiftly reach his goal and exceed it.
ppl seem to forget that responsble aas use is not for JUST bodybuilders, but anyone seeking improvement competitively or recreationally.
i fail to see the the problem with this guy doing a 10-12 weeks of test…why not?
I understand now that this is not the ideal RMP thread, sorry guys. This probably should be in the beginner or general bodybuilding section. Sorry for the mispost, but from here on out I am looking for any advice/insight into what I should be doing.
It has just come to the point where I was in that lifting purgatory for about 2 years. I have been lifting since my junior year of high school(I am now about to finish my sophomore semester in college), but I did not understand the dynamics and all the factors that went into it. I thought if you lift weights, and then take a protein shake right after, you get big. I didn’t understand the impact sleep, nutrition, etc had on getting bigger and stronger.
I discovered this site around 6 or 7 months ago and have been an avid reader ever since, trying to take in as much as possible and learn as much as I can. Being a classic ectomorph, I have increased my eating and protein intake for about 3-4 months now and have put on more muscle than I had the prior two years before.
Thanks again for all responses
OHH SHIT HE SAID “FUNCTIONALITY” RUN FOR THE HILLS OP THERE IS A STORM A COMING
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Stop doing full body workouts 3x a week, you will never get big off that.
wow
If I didn’t know you were a total retard(read: beginner using steroids), I’d call you a troll.
Total body training or upper/lower split with big compound exercises is the best way to gain mass for the 99% of the training population that’s not developed or efficient enough to prioritize specialization(read: body part split) training.
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EDIT
People at such a low level of development or efficiency should not be using steroids in the first place. Amazing how that had to be pointed out. But you have fun calling people retards while you continue to be brainwashed by some of the authors on this site.
[quote]DevinMcAfee wrote:
I understand now that this is not the ideal RMP thread, sorry guys. This probably should be in the beginner or general bodybuilding section. Sorry for the mispost, but from here on out I am looking for any advice/insight into what I should be doing.
It has just come to the point where I was in that lifting purgatory for about 2 years. I have been lifting since my junior year of high school(I am now about to finish my sophomore semester in college), but I did not understand the dynamics and all the factors that went into it. I thought if you lift weights, and then take a protein shake right after, you get big. I didn’t understand the impact sleep, nutrition, etc had on getting bigger and stronger.
I discovered this site around 6 or 7 months ago and have been an avid reader ever since, trying to take in as much as possible and learn as much as I can. Being a classic ectomorph, I have increased my eating and protein intake for about 3-4 months now and have put on more muscle than I had the prior two years before.
Thanks again for all responses[/quote]
Your welcome.
Dear mother of GOD! Somebody get this man to Hometown Buffet. Quickly or we’ll loose him! Yeah, another 30lbs and people will notice you even workout.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
lol
pwned.
no one’s trying to rip the kid for shits and giggles. but how else can we get his attention away from thinking ‘big’ muscles aren’t ‘functional’ muscles.
True, although I believe people are misinterpreting his goals. He already said that he wants to settle around 220, so he’s obviously not trying to become the worlds strongest telephone pole. At 220 he’d have what most people call “big” muscles. You’re argument is based on relativity and when there are people like yourself or that enormous black dude (who post their pics in avatars) i think all hes trying to moderate are your standards.
pwned. haha.
I only posted because he said he wanted powerful legs…
Um, he outweighs me by 40 lbs. And I lied when I said we rep the same weights. I rep higher weights.
At his height, 220 is just starting to barely not look scrawny.
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BOIRN BABY BURN!!
In response to the OP, here’s my advice: Something I found helped me was putting together a medium/long term plan (ideally a year or more), where you figure out where you are now, where you want to be then (in terms of measurable goals - strength, bodyweight, etc) and how to get there.
Take a few basic workout regimes from this site (I’ve always been partial to 5x5, but whatever works for you is fine), implement them, and then reassess at intervals of 2 or more months. If you are going in the right direction, keep doing what you are doing, if not change a variable (e.g. increase calories) to get progress moving again. Some other general advice that should serve you well is the following:
No matter what program you are on, focus on 2 major factors
Don’t neglect single limb work - e.g. single leg squats and single leg deadlifts. These are good for general lower body and lower back health, as well as increasing your ability to express your strength on one leg (note - don’t use the word functional on T-Nation forums, it has too many syllables)
Put together a basic mobility/foam rolling/prehab/rehab plan that addresses any weak areas (e.g. hip mobility) that you may have. Besides helping with your strength, this will assist with injury prevention, which means more consistent, better quality workouts, and therefore better gains. Eric Cressey and Mike Boyle’s articles on this site are generally good for this.
In response to a few of the guys posting in this thread, why bother? This guy approached this as a learning experience, and even when he was ripped on he responded with humility and maturity, yet you still feel the need to deride him. Why all the cock-swinging? Are you feeling insecure?
Did no-one tell you your arms were FREAKING HYOOGE today, so you felt the need to jump on the net and rip on someone smaller than you? Sure, the guy?s physique isn’t amazing, and maybe he should have posted it in the beginners section, but fuck, he was looking for advice, and all he got was “put on 50lbs and you’ll look alright”. Nice work buddy, hope that made you feel all big and manly… Now go to your room and think about what you’ve done.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Hey Mac, listen here.
As much as I like your refreshing if not hilarious antics, I just can’t try to be negative or hurtful to someone who asks for help and clearly shows they wan’t it. [/quote]
dude come on.
mofo joined a BODYBUILDING forum. made his first post at a supposed 6’4 200lb in the RATE MY PHSIQUE section. then proceded to post how he didn’t want ‘big’ muscles, just funcitional ones.
come on now, do i join a triatholon forum and talk about how i just want to be able to jog to school in the morning?
while i may not be one of the more ‘serious’ posters on this forum, i will never just go out and attack someone for no reason.
however, when shit like THIS shows up, i’ll def poke my head in.
but yes, we can still be best buds. hell, you can do a MMF with me if you want.
I haven’t read all posts. Having said that:
Squats
Milk
Eat
Lift.
Eat some more
You attitude is wrong. Shut up your ‘I don’t want to be hyoge’ attitude already. You won’t transform into hulk in a day gesus. You should in fact use that kind of attitude to get a chance of building some size in reality-and that’s in the long run.
Repeat
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
Hey Mac, listen here.
As much as I like your refreshing if not hilarious antics, I just can’t try to be negative or hurtful to someone who asks for help and clearly shows they wan’t it.
dude come on.
mofo joined a BODYBUILDING forum. made his first post at a supposed 6’4 200lb in the RATE MY PHSIQUE section. then proceded to post how he didn’t want ‘big’ muscles, just funcitional ones.
come on now, do i join a triatholon forum and talk about how i just want to be able to jog to school in the morning?
while i may not be one of the more ‘serious’ posters on this forum, i will never just go out and attack someone for no reason.
however, when shit like THIS shows up, i’ll def poke my head in.
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x2
LOL hahahha I chuckle whenever I read that hehehehe
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Stop doing full body workouts 3x a week, you will never get big off that.
wow
If I didn’t know you were a total retard(read: beginner using steroids), I’d call you a troll.
Total body training or upper/lower split with big compound exercises is the best way to gain mass for the 99% of the training population that’s not developed or efficient enough to prioritize specialization(read: body part split) training.
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oh shit, the little guy is calling out the big guy!
ahhh only on the interwebz
[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
TooHuman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Stop doing full body workouts 3x a week, you will never get big off that.
wow
If I didn’t know you were a total retard(read: beginner using steroids), I’d call you a troll.
Total body training or upper/lower split with big compound exercises is the best way to gain mass for the 99% of the training population that’s not developed or efficient enough to prioritize specialization(read: body part split) training.
oh shit, the little guy is calling out the big guy!
ahhh only on the interwebz[/quote]
More like the big guy calling out the bigger guy.
I weighed in at 234lbs on Monday.
Yeah the retard comment was out of line.
The point I was trying to get across is:
Beginners do better with big compound movements and usually can’t put up the intensity that body part splits require because they are either neurologically inefficient and/or inexperienced.
So, I would say the OP and other beginners should stick to total body work or upper/lower splits as long as they continue to make progress.
Toohuman
Thanks for the offer, considering I go to an all guy’s school miles away from any hot chick I may have to take you up on that!
I feel you, but the man admitted he was wrong and now all is well in the RMP. There’s no need to shit on him anymore, so it’s whatever.
The OP would be wise to move this forum to another section to avoid further criticism.
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
The point I was trying to get across is:
Beginners do better with big compound movements and usually can’t put up the intensity that body part splits require because they are either neurologically inefficient and/or inexperienced.
So, I would say the OP and other beginners should stick to total body work or upper/lower splits as long as they continue to make progress.
Toohuman[/quote]
You do know that those of us who do split routines still base our routines around the compound movements right?
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Standard Donkey wrote:
TooHuman wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Stop doing full body workouts 3x a week, you will never get big off that.
wow
If I didn’t know you were a total retard(read: beginner using steroids), I’d call you a troll.
Total body training or upper/lower split with big compound exercises is the best way to gain mass for the 99% of the training population that’s not developed or efficient enough to prioritize specialization(read: body part split) training.
oh shit, the little guy is calling out the big guy!
ahhh only on the interwebz
More like the big guy calling out the bigger guy.
I weighed in at 234lbs on Monday.
Yeah the retard comment was out of line.
The point I was trying to get across is:
Beginners do better with big compound movements and usually can’t put up the intensity that body part splits require because they are either neurologically inefficient and/or inexperienced.
So, I would say the OP and other beginners should stick to total body work or upper/lower splits as long as they continue to make progress.
Toohuman[/quote]
I wasn’t calling you out on your training philosophy. Just to clear that up because it seems like other people would rather see another argument started.
I don’t know why I made that point about steroids, I must have misinterpreted what you said intially because you never actually mentioned using steroids; my mistake.
I will not get into splits vs tbt. All I know is that splits work for me. I’ve been using a 4-6 day split since I was 16 and will continue to do so. I do feel that you are wrong with regards to your assumption about neural efficiency and the effectiveness of split training. If someone neglects body parts (which will absolutely happen in TBT because of its inherent design) that person will never become neurally efficient at using the neglected body parts. That sort of thing could wreak havoc on someones aesthetics if they aren’t one of the people who possesses no muscular imbalances or dominant bodyparts.
Someone who is back dominant will never EVER EVER build good biceps if they use TBT training that has about 2-3x as much back training as it does direct bicep work. When that person decides that he doesn’t want his arms to look like shit anymore he will have to make up for all of the lost progress that could have been made by prioritzing the weak point (ie Biceps).
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
If someone neglects body parts (which will absolutely happen in TBT because of its inherent design) that person will never become neurally efficient at using the neglected body parts. That sort of thing could wreak havoc on someones aesthetics if they aren’t one of the people who possesses no muscular imbalances or dominant bodyparts.
Someone who is back dominant will never EVER EVER build good biceps if they use TBT training that has about 2-3x as much back training as it does direct bicep work. When that person decides that he doesn’t want his arms to look like shit anymore he will have to make up for all of the lost progress that could have been made by prioritzing the weak point (ie Biceps). [/quote]
definatly x2.
i started off with a split. have stayed with it since.
I gave you a 1. Stick to lurking for all your advisory needs.
I’m also 6’4’’
Take 3 years, eat your fucking face off and lift heavy. I started at 200lbs too, I went up to 266 and now I’m sitting at 250. I’m not huge, but I sure as hell look a shit ton better than I did back then.